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Belle Knox, revisited

I just ran across this... http://business.avn.com/articles/technology/Belle-Knox-Mini-Series-to-Debut-Tuesday-on-Conde-Nast-Entertainment-572998.html

Conde Nast Entertainment is airing a mini-series about Knox and it makes me wonder if this person is now notable enough to resurrect her article? She's not the first person to do porn to pay for school, I've run across others recently, but she certainly seems to be the most famous and/or controversial.

For recap sake, the deletion discuss is here and the deletion review is here. I'm pinging a few people from the original discussion for comment............ --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:14, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• I haven't been pinged although I voted in the DRV and have a well known interest in the BLP aspect of porn articles. In fact, all of the users you pinged voted to keep in the AFD which is clearly canvassing and completely invalidates any consensus arising from a discussion tainted by such tactics. Honestly, Scalhotrod, I'm just shaking my head at your behavior right now. FWIW I suggest you wait until you have a mainstream source and the series has aired and see what coverage you get from that. If there is enduring evidence of purient public interest then its worth looking to bring a draft to DRV that tries to take the BLP concerns into account. Maybe the outing article or something in sexual politics. Spartaz 18:34, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I was pinged, but am certainly able to give my own opinion. I suspect Spartaz is correct, it remains too early to tell whether this subject is notable. While it's true the (minor) coverage on AVN is a slight indication that this is going beyond a WP:BLP1E, it's too little on its own. FWIW I have a feeling the Belle Knox case will survive in people's memories and be discussed and compared with later events for many years to come, at which point in the future we will have no doubt about notability. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:52, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

BTW I won't watch this page, so ping me (without prejudice) if you want me to reply. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• Spartaz, my apologies for not notifying you of this conversation. I genuinely did not realize that you were so interested in BLP porn articles. Please do not read into the non-inclusion.
• Otherwise, this is exactly what I was looking for! Input, plain and simple. No nefarious intent (gaming, stacking, non-partisan conspiracy), just basic conversation. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 02:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
• Well, lookie here, an editor with just over 10 lifetime edits has helpfully created Belle Knox!--Milowent • 04:02, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
• I came across this article at WP:NPP. I started a new deletion discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Belle Knox (2nd nomination). Participation would be welcomed. VQuakr (talk) 06:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
• I do believe that Belle Knox's article was initially created way too soon. I did not participate in the AfD or DRV, but I did notice that the article was deleted during the AfD despite the community's keep consensus. I did not participate in the discussions because I thought that all Knox had were 15 minutes of fame, but since I'm always editing porn articles, I search for porn news stories on news.google.com on a daily basis and there has been coverage of Belle Knox there pretty much everyday since the story first came out. It's been several months now, so this is no longer a WP:BLP1E. She's hosting an upcoming game show titled The Sex Factor and she is now the subject of a new documentary series. Why are we still questioning her notability? Just restore and improve/expand her article already. And "she isn't the first college student to strip or do porn to pay for tuition" is not a legitimate argument for deleting her article because she is still among the most well-known for doing this. I mean, that's like saying, "we should delete the WP articles on Angelina Jolie, Scarlett Johansson, Sandra Bullock, Jennifer Aniston, Julia Roberts, and every other actress just because they were not the first women to become actresses and we should only have one actress biography on WP for like, Marilyn Monroe or something. Lets have only one biography article on WP for every occupation there is." Now how ridiculous does that sound? The fact that Belle Knox isn't the first college student doing porn to pay for her tuition is irrelevant. Belle Knox is also salted now. Was that really necessary? Not to mention that she is likely to win either a Best New Starlet or Mainstream/Crossover Star of the Year award at the next AVN/XBIZ/XRCO awards show(s). Rebecca1990 (talk) 18:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
• I thought the political coverage at the time was enough to keep the article as it went beyond just a mere "college student doing porn" to well covered news story. Now that we know the fame will be continuing there is absolutely no justification to keep the article deleted (and the person who did ignored consensus -- it's insane that admins so regularly jump in at the last second to merely support whatever side they prefer regardless what anyone else says -- should not even have deletion discussions anymore and just tag them for an admin to do whatever the hell they want on their next flyby if that's what's going to happen anyway). Since the circumstances have now changed the article should be recreated immediately. DreamGuy (talk) 14:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Rebecca Bardoux

Should the article mention her mainstream career as a comedian? RFC at: Talk:Rebecca_Bardoux#RfC: Should the article mention her comedy career? -- GreenC 13:45, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Yep... --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't find it particularly controversial, but perhaps the objections to the content would be lessened if the text said something like "her website (press releases?) also promotes her activity on the stand up comedy circuit" -- or whatever text gets that point across better and more smoothly. DreamGuy (talk) 14:40, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Choose WP:Primary topic for blowjob? And cocksucker and dicksucker are synonyms for fellatio?

Opinions are needed on the Talk:Blowjob#Redirect to the disambig page and Talk:Dicksucker#Cocksucker and dicksucker are synonyms for fellatio? discussions. Something to keep in mind regarding the latter is what Johnuniq stated in that latter discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 03:21, 24 September 2014 (UTC)