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ESA

Actually, no. I don't think they should. There is a page dedicated to the european astronaut corps where these things belong. As far as the ESA article itself, it's sufficient to list the current members and add information about them in prose form asw opposed to the list which exists now. Not to mention the fact that information about the corps itself and its functioning is absent.

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Latvian euros images

All of the latvian euros images (ie File:Latvian 5, 2 and 1 cent coin design.JPG) which you uploaded are breaking for me in some browsers. It seems to be related to this problem. Are you able to fix this? Or should I revert to the old versions which seem to be working fine? TDL (talk) 21:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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Prime Minister of Latvia

I thought that once you resigned, you were no longer Prime Minister. Maybe I'm wrong. ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 13:44, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Vauxhall helicopter crash

You need to discuss any changes such as this on the talk page. I think it's generally accepted that either England or United Kingdom can be used, but then shouldn't be changed without giving a reason. I've seen a lot of England v United Kingdom disagreements on here, where people change an article to their preference, and it can get quite distuptive. Unless there's a strong argument to change it I tend to think whichever term was first used should be the default. Your argument is a valid one, so maybe add your thoughts to Talk:2013 Vauxhall helicopter crash. Paul MacDermott (talk) 13:09, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion at the talk page if you want to add your thoughts. Paul MacDermott (talk) 13:19, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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François Hollande and François Fillon

Hi! I don't know if you've read the talk pages for both these articles, but here's what I said :

"I disagree with Hollande's inclusion in the infobox, as well as "May 16th, 2012" for the end of Fillon's term. First, it is misleading as it gives the impression that Hollande and Fillon effectively worked together. Second, according to these 3 articles (in French, sorry), Fillon handed his resignation to Sarkozy on May 10th, 2012, with he and his government merely in charge of "dealing with the current affairs" until the 15th. On a side note, the French WP article lists May 10th as the end of his term."

Basically that is why I reverted you. I won't modify the pages again for now as I don't wanna go into edit warring, but let me know what you think?
Thanks, AurélieM 17:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, maybe not in the US (or whichever country you're from), but it seems to have happened a few times in France. For instance, the WP page about French PMs states that Georges Pompidou's third "PM-ship" ended on April 1st, 1967, and then he didn't take his own succession until April 5th of that same year. It seems that French politics allows for brief periods of time without a PM. AurélieM 21:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
You do have a point, and the official French PM website seems to imply that Fillon was still PM on the morning of May 16th ("handover of power between Prime Minister François Fillon and his successor J-M Ayrault"). I'm confused now :-). On the other hand, I still feel that this one day where Hollande was President and Fillon still PM is very anecdotal. It could be mentioned in the body of the article, but an infobox is supposed to be a summary, and I feel having this info in there gives it too much weight. AurélieM 14:20, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
But I also found a couple secondary sources (French again, sorry) considering his term ended on the 10th. Dunno how reliable they are. AurélieM 14:33, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Prime Minister of Tunisia

I don't want to get into an edit war over the recent edits that you have made to Prime Minister of Tunisia, so let's discuss it on the talk page of that article.David O. Johnson (talk) 18:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


As you can look at list of PMs of Tunisia none of PMs since independence was named "Acting" because in Tunisia office of "Acting PM" doesn't exist.

It is a description of the fact that he is a caretaker prime minister; it would not be indicating that there is an official office named "Acting PM." If it is described as "acting PM" would that fine?David O. Johnson (talk) 20:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

I mean that acting is only journalistic word. In real world there is no difference between him and his predecessors.

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Countries at the Olympics

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Belgium at the Olympics

Dear Aight 2009, I saw you changed the flag template of Belgium at the Olympics. Let me be clear, as a Belgian: the state flag, which you installed, is NEVER EVER used. For the last ten years, the civil (normal) flag was used at Misplaced Pages, until you decided to change it. The civil flag is the one which is being used at every (national or international) occasion. I thus don't understand why you made this change, and I hope you will change this back into the correct display (since I'm not authorized to do so).

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Takk - a contributor to the Dutch Misplaced Pages 87.64.133.171 (talk) 11:42, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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Already 1952?

Did the German Democratic Republic take part in the Olympic Games already 1952: talviolympialaiset 1952? --85.76.53.43 (talk) 21:48, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

No. East Germany was declined to Olympic Games because it's NOC wasn't recognised by IOC then.
Therefore, this should be a cause for the repair as soon as possible: talviolympialaiset 1952, but: impossible to correct? --85.76.175.199 (talk) 11:21, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

PD and PES

Ok you are right, PD will become a member of PES, but maybe is better to wait until the official statement of the PES, and we will probably have it tomorrow. -- Nick.mon (talk) 15:56 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Article Next Austrian legislative election

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The word 'country'

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Enda Kenny's name

Fair enough then. At least his Irish name is actually on some occasions, if quite rarely so, and quite specific circumstances. I still don't think it's that relevant for the table in question (which lets people know both what they're knowing as in English and in their home country), but not something I'd fight over. --William Quill (talk) 09:57, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Prime Minister of Bulgaria

Minister-Chairman is a word-for-word translation of the post. On the website of the National Assembly, where the constitution is written in English, the position is referred to as "Prime Minister" under Art. 108 (1). How come this translation isn't being used? The name of the column in the table is simply "Title". Both are titles. -- Kndimov (talk) 20:44, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I know that so the title has a reference "English media dub the post as Prime Minister.".

Pope

"The position as head of state of Vatican City is an ex officio role of the pope." - from the article you linked me to. There is no independent title of 'Sovereign of the Vatican City' - it's just part of the Pope's job. Nobody, and I mean nobody, refers to the Pope as 'Sovereign Francis' in any capacity whatever. Oh, and please sign your comments. AlexTiefling (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

GERB

Hello and thank you for bringing up a very interesting point regarding the party's name. I happened to notice that you are going on a massive spree, changing everywhere the name "Citizens for European Development of Bulgaria" to GERB. While I support the page move, I wish that you wait a while to allow for other opinions to be voiced and for the discussion to reach consensus. That way, should the page move request be opposed, we don't have to go back and undo what easily seems to be over 100 edits. -- Kndimov (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I have already done but the same thing is with CDS-PP in Portugal.

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State flag of Belgium

Hello. I noticed that you've changed the flag of Belgium to its 13:15 variant in Template:National apportionment of MEPs. I'm interested why you did it. The flag's article mentions the variant but deems it rare:

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Moreover, the websites of the election results and the website of the European Parliament use the 2:3 variant. Nonetheless, the Belgium article uses the 13:15 with the comment “Please do not replace the official 13:15 size flag by the more commonly used civil flag.”

What's the reason for using this variant in this context? My understanding is that the 2:3 should only be used on sea, while the 13:15 is the official one and should be used everywhere else. Whence I infer that it's used erroneously on the websites. Is that correct? — Matěj Grabovský (talk) 18:47, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I can't fing legal act on the flag now but I don't know if it exist. Someone could say that I am wrong now but even Belgians use flag incorrect line of color as stated in the constitution since it's independence. I tried to persuade to use official flag on wiki but I do this when I can. But now after my fail to find legal mention I see that flag stuff isn't regulated. For example royal castle use 4:3 flag. I admit that I based on Wiki but the is no mention how Wiki knows Aight 2009 (talk) 19:22, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. From the few sources I've just read, I'd say that the flag is not officially defined anywhere and its usage is more or less a tradition – the constitution only declares the three colours, the motto and nothing else. Uh, I'll just leave it at this, hopefully someone else will make order in all of this in the future. — Matěj Grabovský (talk) 19:38, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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World Cup awards

Hi mate, can you please provide a source for the best young player and best goalkeeper awards you've been adding to the infoboxes for the early World Cups? As far as I know, there were no such awards officially given in those days, so if you have information I don't, you need to add the source to the articles. – PeeJay 23:12, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Previously award for the best goalkeeper was called lev yashin award. but before it was established only one goalkeeper was included to dream team. http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/awards/young-player-award/archive/index.html here you have the list of young best players Aight 2009 (talk) 23:20, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I've heard of the Yashin Award, but that wouldn't have started until the 1950s. In 1930, I don't think it's appropriate to say anyone won the "best goalkeeper award" because one didn't exist. I'm not even sure there was an official dream team that year. Or any year until the 1960s or something. Can you correct me on this? – PeeJay 09:10, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
There was no award before but it is still possible to name someone best goalkeeper. Dream team probably was created retrospectively to previous world cups. http://football.sporting99.com/fifa-world-cup-all-star-team.html here you got previous dream teams Aight 2009 (talk) 11:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
If dream teams were created retroactively, we can certainly say that, but you can't say that someone won the "best goalkeeper" award if there was no such award. – PeeJay 12:35, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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's government will be confirmed later today, no hurry to modify the articles before that ;-) --Tone 10:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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Names of the Danish political party "Radikale Venstre"

Given our mutual undoing of revisions, I thought it would be more productive to have a rational discussion about this. I do not know you personally, so I have no knowledge about your familiarity with Danish political history, so please allow me to elaborate on it. I myself am from Denmark and has, as my personal interest, history and politics.

When parliamentary democracy was introduced in Denmark in 1849, there were two primary political forces. Conservatives (Typically the aristocracy etc.) called Højre (Literally "Right") and liberals (Typically farmers) called Venstre (Literally "Left"). The liberals chose that name to distinguish themselves from Højre.

However, later the Social Democrats was formed, which represented workers and as such was located, politically, to the left of the party called Venstre. Later there was a split in Venstre, and this new party named itself "Det Radikale Venstre", literally "The Radical Left" as you note. In this sense the word "Left" does not refer to being left-wing politically, it refers to the association with the party called Venstre.

"Radikale Venstre" is a name that ONLY makes sense in Danish, because the name "Venstre", when used in Denmark, explicitly refers to the Liberal Party of Denmark (As Venstre calls itself in English). Also, Radikale Venstre on their web page states what their name is in English: http://radikale.dk/english As you can see they clear say: "the Danish Social-Liberal Party", and therefore, since that is what they call themselves, that is the correct name in English.

Also, there is a problem with literally translating their name as "The Radical Left", because many far-left socialist and communist parties would, in English, use a similar name. Such as Syriza in Greece, whose name is a short of "Coalition of the Radical Left", so you risk major confusion, both in terms of parties, but also in terms of what politics the parties represent. That is most likely also why Radikale Venstre, themselves, say that in English they are named "Danish Social-Liberal Party".

I hope this clears up the situation.

Tsuroerusu (talk) 23:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Joining the discussion as one who did the second revert. Please take time to read WP:NCPP as it directly applies here; any doubts as regards that party's English-language name will only be welcome on the Talk pages under Danish Social Liberal Party. Please also read WP:3R. Regards, kashmiri 23:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)