Misplaced Pages

• I'm very happy to see you back editing too, Hafs!! SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:00, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

.Thanks to Diliff. Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Roses, not guns

That peace rose looks very similar to the one in my sister's garden — same variety? I see from Rosa Peace that it was propagated in the U.S. (and elsewhere outside Nazi Europe) during WWII. Interesting history....

Thanks ... and pax tecum. Sca (talk) 14:11, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

"it is not going to pass with 1 oppose"

Hi Haffy, glad to see you're back. FPC is a bit different than the other Featured projects, in that an oppose doesn't mean death for a nomination. So long as it has at least 2/3rds (66%) supports (and 5 !votes), the image can pass. 4/5 is 80%, so the bird image is still passing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

No good at that one, am I? Maybe I sould not mess with the urgents... Hafspajen (talk) 08:31, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

• No, it's alright. Just a matter of knowing the rules. We all make mistakes... that's how we grow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:50, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Has grown several inches... Hafspajen (talk) 08:56, 7 September 2014 (UTC) ....Like Pinocchio's nose? Sca (talk) 13:47, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

• Great! (Has grown 5kg... not so great  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:59, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

It is because of your wife's cooking... all married men's fate. But then you can always start keeping Ramadan.... ... Hafspajen (talk) 09:03, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

• You know, most people I talk to say that they gain weight during the fast! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

That's news. I never tried it of course... I never fast. Or eat fish on Friday... or any other meal-religious thing.. Why?Hafspajen (talk) 14:36, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Has to do with how Muslims do their fasting during Ramadan. They don't just stop eating, but shift from eating 3 regular meals a day to 2 large ones, before fajr and after maghrib. It's very easy to overeat in such a situation, especially since sweet foods are very popular for breaking the fast. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:55, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Hm, that sounds like just the opposite it was meant to (as far as I understood - loyality with the poor and behaving..) Hafspajen (talk) 15:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

• They need only fast during the daylight hours. I'm not anywhere near an expert on the scriptural reasons, or the other practices, but I don't know any fasts in Islam which require 24 hours. Sawm has a bit more info. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:13, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it say: Fasting is essentially an attempt to seek nearness to Allah and increase one's piety. One of the remote aims of fasting is to empathize with those less fortunate members of society who do not always have food and drink readily available.

Also, I can imagine many other ways getting closer to Allah (praying, singing, poems, love, nice pictures - well I mean BEAUTY- ).... that could be just as good. So - I guess that it is mostly about to understand how those who need things live... The American Indians have religious rites when they use fasting to get visions - but ... that takes more fasting than just from sunset to sunrise. Hafspajen (talk) 15:28, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Skagen

Quite impressive article on Skagen painters. Have you been to Skagen, DK? Sca (talk) 13:41, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm thinking about it. Sca (talk)

OK, if we can make later one called trains in art.... Hafspajen (talk) 16:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Winter - Hiver - Zima - Зима

• Korovin: Moonlit Night (1913)
• Anokhin: The Thaw (1991)
• Anokhin: The Village (2006)
• Germashev: Snow (1897)
• Nesterov: Winter in Skite (1904)
• Bruno Liljefors: Winter Hare (1927)
• L.A. Ring: Winter Day in Roskilde (1929)
• Monet: Train in the Snow (1875)
• Baluschek: Snowed In (1915)
• Baluschek: Deep Snow (1918)
• Friedrich: Cairn in Snow (1807)
• Lebacq: Bruges (1910)
• Like this Kozell Like this Kozell
• 
• 
• 
• How about this Wentzel?
• 
• Mid-18th C. & looks it.

Lovely!!!

I think I saw some pics somewhere - a Russian guy - wathisname ... the guy with the bears and the cornfields. An article like Night in art could be the model.. or someting like that. Night in paintings (Western art). Winter in art? Shall we go for only western art or both? Or we could involve Cold Turkey to make the Winter Easter art - and go nominatnig them both as a pair in DYK? that would be something. But it is fully possible to make just one. Have you seen this category? Category:Winter_in_Russian_art Hafspajen (talk) 05:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Cool! I rather like this one. Sca (talk) 13:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks very good. I like this one too... Hafspajen (talk) 13:58, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Nice. I saw several other blue-and-white frosty ones on Commons. Sca (talk) 14:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

This one's kinda interesting in terms of technique — can you imagine painting in all the dark parts? Sca (talk) 14:22, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

This is just perfect! Hafspajen (talk) 14:37, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Companion pieces

Hafstermaister, I give you Woman Reading a Letter and Man Writing a Letter. I'd have someone look over it--someone who knows what they're doing. I'd call on Yngvadottir, but I'm scared the wolf has got her. I'd call on Mandarax, for artsy stuff and sex, but they're in the slammer for being a spammer. I would consider SPhil, but I think you know the drill: if it's wrote by Drmies then the prose ain't worth a ... dime. Good luck with it. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

LOL. I have managed to clear one thing off my list today and am working madly on another, wrestling with Swedish while other household members make noise. And Hafspajen gave me two sets of Breughels to work on (see my talk page). But I'll see what I can do. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:02, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Yngvadottir, you deserve a Carnegie medal. Or a nice, spicy, grilled Conecuh sausage. Something that says "thank you on behalf of the world". Drmies (talk) 01:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! Wonderful work, superb, simply just gorgious work, you too.... Hafspajen (talk) 07:50, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

PS Has to be a Vegetarian sausage, otherwise the dog will have the meat ... can't imagine she ever succeded to turn the pet into a vegetarian... Has anyone thought about DYK them? Hafspajen (talk) 08:09, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

You're both welcome. Unfortunately I really overdid it yesterday and made errors; luckily others came by and fixed them. Have now resumed work on the Five Senses. I'm just translating the French for now; there are presumably other sources that can be added later, but that article happens to be based on English sources in any case. For the second Five Senses article, I'll need to hunt more than for the current one. ... It's just one dog now, yes. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• OK, Hafspajen, Drmies, and any art mavens you want to ping, Hafspajen: The Five Senses (series) and The Five Senses (pair of paintings). Both could probably do with some work, and I'm not happy with either title. Also I haven't done a source search for either. And we have an appalling lack of relevant categories. However I must now go to bed. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

muttnik here

Hafs, how are you? I happened to catch up reading on Sca's talk page because it was in our old conversation where you added some new thoughts. You sound unhappy. I looked at the FPC project yesterday. There is I guess some history with some contributors that I am not aware of, being new. I think it is not you; it is just a project where people can get quite emotional fairly fast and feelings do get hurt sometimes in the conversations. Some of Misplaced Pages is like that, unhappily.

I hope I have not made you unhappy with what you now know from my Simple talk page. I do not usually say, but I wanted you to know because I can be fragile. I can only contribute in areas where I don't get sad.

Simple English makes me sad, and I I was unhappy when you left, but really I should have told you, the admins are worse that grumpy there. I get complained at a bunch. It is not a good place for anyone who is easily hurt (as I think you are). Again, I hope I haven't made you sad. In a later chat I will tell you more about why I have to stay happy. For now, please just know if I stay out of some of the drama, it is to keep being happy. Please stay and be encouraged. Accept my apology if one is needed. Fylbecatulous talk 14:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Fylbecatulous talk haz givn u Lolcat! Lolcatz promot teh WikiLovez and hoapfully thiz one tuk away ur sadz. Spredd teh WikiLovez by givin sumone else Lolcat, or if tey hav one, give a cheezburgr for teh Lolcat 2 snak on!

Spredd teh goudnez of Lolcats to all cheezburgr buddiez by addin {{subst:Lolcat}} to their talk paj wit frendli messuj to all!

Thanks, is this purring? Hafspajen (talk) 14:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, yes. Happy pills at work... ツ Fylbecatulous talk 16:35, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

dreaming in hope

Infectious dreams, thanks for the image, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

.

Robert Antoine Pinchon

Does it look all right? CorinneSD (talk) 18:10, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi Haffy,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Edwin Landseer - Scene from A Midsummer Night's Dream. Titania and Bottom - Google Art Project.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on October 2, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:35, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Walking a little on water

User:Hafspajen/Jonathan Hill (theologian) User:Hafspajen/Homer sandbox User:Hafspajen/ Less known works by Claude Monet

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Antonio de Pereda - Allegory of Vanity - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Antonio de Pereda - Allegory of Vanity - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 10:21, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Van Gogh

So I know we're tired of him, but still... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:24, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

• New
• Old

Oh, I am not tired of him... no, Hafspajen (talk) 14:40, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

• Great. I'm trying to find some more Pinchon of reasonable quality. Difficult. I'll leave notes on Corinne's talk page if I have questions. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Koller

Hafs, rest assured I am working on the Rudolf Koller translation. Sca (talk) 21:26, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, it's done. Someone will have to figure out how to get rid of the note re translating. Sca (talk) 23:39, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done

Was there a reason you didn't want to use Hay Harvest? Sca (talk) 14:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

One reason, wanted to wait until it will be more text - did't looked that good in the gallery - but did't succeded to add it - YET. Hafspajen (talk) 14:50, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

OK. There's also a pretty good painting by Koller of his wife. Yes, but where should we put that one - shall we chuck the cow? There are cows in the article already, but no wife. Or can we find other sources to expand a little more? Hafspajen (talk) 15:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

But she is mentioned: "Koller, 28, in May 1856 married Bertha Schlatter, whom he had painted the year before." Sca (talk) 16:15, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I meant - no wife picture ... I think we should he the wife picture in article - and maybe chuck the cow ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:18, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Your choice, Hafs.

 : Did you do your sacred duty and vote? Sca (talk) 23:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, bad constience... I ALWAYS vote - but this time .. not . Hafspajen (talk) 09:15, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Isn't guilt a wonderful thing?

Someone, probably Yngvadottir, cleaned up my poor translation re Koller and the Swiss Northeastern Railways. Guess I should have found a source other than Bing for translating Verabschiedung. Sca (talk) 14:52, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

PS: Guess who's back? Sca (talk) 15:04, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

You could try promoting Francis Meadow Sutcliffe's Water Rats- see if Coat uses the same argument. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:29, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• "replace cow with wife" — Hafs, is this Swedish humor? Sca (talk) 14:13, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I rather liked this Böcklin portrait of Koller at age 21, but I guess there isn't room for it now. Sca (talk) 14:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC) You did? Put it back then. Hafspajen (talk) 16:26, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I guess you didn't like it ... ? Sca (talk) 16:33, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Just took it at put it back... Do you have any refs from the German article? Hafspajen (talk) 16:35, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

There were none. I noted this problem on the Koller talk page. Sca (talk) 16:52, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

OOps, then we must find some of we have to take it off. Hafspajen (talk) 16:57, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I just get bumping in som Rudi who lives in Austria now. Facebook and everything. Could you try the Gereman refs? More chance in finding anything if you try Rudi Koller painter cow. http://artist.christies.com/Rudolf-Koller--30456.aspx Hafspajen (talk) 17:28, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

ArtNet has him as Johann Rudolf Koller (apologies if you already know this). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I spotted that last night. That site has a wonderful charcoal sketch of himself as a young man. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Pastry

Hafs, in December send me some of these Lucia buns, please! Sca (talk) 16:06, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, if you send me your Yule-kaka, so. Hafspajen (talk) 17:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I do make bread occasionally, but have never made Julekake. Sca (talk) 22:25, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Saffransbröd är tradition. Hafspajen (talk) 09:36, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Sir Peter Paul Rubens - Daniel in the Lions' Den - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Sir Peter Paul Rubens - Daniel in the Lions' Den - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 21:37, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Glad to have you back

Sorry I haven't said anything sooner - I've been in four theatrcial shows in the last month, and have been rather out of it - but glad you've come back. You find the most interesting things. Adam Cuerden 22:11, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing until hell freezes over. (A JOKE)

What in hell is this? Sca (talk) 00:22, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

• A joke notification. Hafs hasn't been blocked in six years. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

• Here's the evil doing. I warn you not to click on any of Hafs' links if you value your sanity. Bgwhite (talk) 01:48, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Bgwhite, you are naughty-naughty. Is it my fault that you like nuki-s? Hafspajen (talk) 09:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

AND: for everyones information, I have never been involved in disruptive canvassing either, - that is blatant WP:Personal attack and I have not been Gomez sock either- I only liked him (the only block). Hafspajen (talk) 10:02, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Groucho White: "That's in every contract, that's what you call a sanity clause."

Chico Hafspajen: "You can't a fool a me, there ain't no sanity clause". Martinevans123 (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Martinevans123, this is the thread that keeps on giving. I hadn't heard that one before. I've been smiling for the past 20 minutes just thinking of it. Bgwhite (talk) 17:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen should be blocked until he remembers me. He has forgotten me. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:20, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

It worked ! Haha. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:26, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Rudolf Koller

If you want me to close it I can, but you can also leave it open for a while if you think it might be referenceable (my spellchecker thinks that's not a word, but what does it know?). Belle (talk) 11:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

We were trying. I would hate to let down Sca, it would be fun to be able to find refs .. but now I tried and others too, and still facts are not referenced. I don't know what to do. See Sca's talk page too. Hafspajen (talk) 11:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I'd leave it for a while, you can always withdraw it later; the nominations are weird, basically as long as you get the nom in before the deadline you can carry on working on it, and since you've put an "on hold" message on the nom, you've got some time. (Don't panic! Don't panic!). Belle (talk) 11:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, easy for you to say - was panic-ing all yesterday about it already. WHERE shall I find refs? It is not much relief to know I can buy this Gotthards-Post and other paintings applied on http://www.porzellankompass.de/module-Pagesetter-viewpub-tid-4-pid-297-lang-en.html " porzellan" cups and plates Hafspajen (talk) 11:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure you can drink your coffee out of an unreferenced cup, that's probably against some Misplaced Pages rule (Maybe the websites some of the museums where his work is held have something about him?) Belle (talk) 12:02, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

MMMmmm ..try. Hafspajen (talk) 12:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I found four sites worthy to be used as external links, - look if you can upgrade some to refs. Please supply a publisher for every ref, - makes it easier to see if it's already there, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

AH; Gerda, you are a Schatz. (hope my spelling is right) Which ones? Started now to look for German Museum sources, look here Mit der Kuh ins Paradies, Rudolf Koller im Kunsthaus Zürich

HOLD YOUR BREATH: GOOGLE TRANS:http://www.sikart.ch/KuenstlerInnen.aspx?id=4000080.

SORRY: http://www.sikart.ch/KuenstlerInnen.aspx?id=4000080. BUT IT LOOKS THAT WE FOUND HERE MANY THINGS COVERED ITHafspajen (talk) 12:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Spelling is good, but Schatz has to be capital, naturally ;) - The translation is awful, but you have to rewrite anyway. I suggest you take the HOLD notice off the nom, nobody looked anyway. What do you think of a hook like the PDF heading "the painter of the Swiss national animal"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Belle looked. Well, I guess it has to be added somehow. Hafspajen (talk) 12:39, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I received "Let sleeping dogs lie" in 2011 and didn't forget. The article is referenced and will be referenced more, no need for any hold, certainly not SHOUTING ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, Gerda, change shouting then, if you perceive it so, if you wish so. I think I let Sca to work with the above references, he talks German much much better then me. Hafspajen (talk) 13:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Leider ist mein deutsch weit von perfekt. Sca (talk) 15:48, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Better then mine!!!! Are you ready with refs now? Hafspajen (talk) 15:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Anyway, I don't understand this: In the cellar, on Zünd landscapes coined concept of "true real ideal landscape or ideal real landscape» is also Koller combination of precise study of nature, particularly the animal, and not the ideal, but the characteristic searching of composition aptly expressed.. What cellar. Hafspajen (talk) 19:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

• Gottfried Keller (mentioned two sentences previously). No idea what the sentence is saying. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:22, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, no, because if you are in the cellar - you are not in the landscape... Hafspajen (talk) 19:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Zund is an artist- I think it's Keller commenting on Zund's landscapes. Else it's an Aleph on the cellar stairs. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Wondered about the "Schweizer" group of artists in Munich- I think this just means a group of Swiss artists- here's a poster for a modern exhibition. Revenge- a dish best served cold. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 22:58, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I guess the translate took the name Keller for the feature Keller which is cellar in English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

, Hhuhuhahaha, it was Keller! Now I understand. Gottfried Keller, indeed. Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Man Writing a Letter by Gabriël Metsu.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Man Writing a Letter by Gabriël Metsu.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 20:21, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Woman Reading a Letter by Gabriël Metsu.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 20:21, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Johannes Vermeer - Woman Holding a Balance - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Johannes Vermeer - Woman Holding a Balance - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 20:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Your message on Drmies's talk page

Hi. I am Skylar. I just came to say that you accidentally left a message on Drmies's talk page instead, mistaking him as Yngvadottir, no offense. Thanks, and please don't get me wrong on this. ;) Skylar3214 6:28, 18 September 2014

Don't worry, Skylar3214, Yngvadottir is watching Drmies page, . I had to thank her, you know, because she responded to a matter I asked him, while Drmies was out. I also had to thank her there so Drmies and other page watching admins who might want to help understood that the matter was fixed. Hafspajen (talk) 06:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

OK. I understand. Thank you. Remember to leave a message on my talk page, if you ever need me for anything. Skylar3214 11:59, 18 September 2014

Meanwhile...

Speaking of WP achievements.... Sca (talk) 14:32, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:John Martin - The Great Day of His Wrath - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:John Martin - The Great Day of His Wrath - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 15:57, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

PS: The image is BTW not used on the article about the painting. Armbrust 16:26, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Not? Fixed. Hafspajen (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen ...

I'm trying. I'm not a very good cop. I'm sorry if I've added to your hurt in any way. Either they will take the rope and use it to find their way through our labyrinth - or they'll use it to hang themself. Feel free to e-mail me and call me bad names, by the way; I can't e-mail you because you don't have the link there. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:36, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I promised not to enable e-mails for Misplaced Pages om our computers, so I am not allowed to use our e-mails. And either way I wouldn't call you names. You are nice, never mind - don't change, Yngvadottir, I like you because of that. He is just a poor guy who loves that dog and he/she is hurt - and has no idea about any rules. Put that gallery in the article Yngvadottir and make him happy - ALT 3 - It just is probably that it was to many of this lately - and I don't understand why it is tolerated. - It is making the editing atmosphere bad, as it was said once - some classic essay. Hafspajen (talk) 18:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

NorthAmerica 10:43, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Question

Hafs, what's this ping thing some of the more querulous users keep talking about? Sca (talk) 21:32, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

@Sca:? {{ping|Sca}}.. Hafspajen (talk) 21:39, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

So, it's a link to one's user page? What's the point or effect? (Pardon my ignorance.) Sca (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, you got a ping - I called you. Hafspajen (talk) 21:56, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

You mean an audible ping sound? Hah. I keep my speakers off most of the time. Sca (talk) 22:03, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

No, it is silent, it makes no noise. It is just called ping. You got a little orange box above your talkpage activated by this so called ping. It is just a funny Wiki-saying. Just saying - I send you a notification, allerted you, made you understand I wanted to talk to you... Altså, I pinged you. Hafspajen (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

• Red box. The orange bar is for talk page messages. But yeah, same thing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:30, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Sca ? Hafspajen (talk) 18:13, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

That is the guy habnging around the doorway.

Aha! That explains it — the doorway of course being the portal to life, and the guy being the deity. Figgers. Sca (talk) 00:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Your images

• Parisienne un jour de pluie, place de la Concorde
• The Elevation of the Host

• Sorry for the delay, had RL stuff to deal with. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:09, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Woman looks great. Bazille also.Hafspajen (talk) 19:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Sca ? Ping... Hafspajen (talk) 21:13, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Remember the blue-grey image you found for my dream? On the German Main page, today and tomorrow, sorry not with the picture, lower right (Schon gewusst? their DYK): "Ich gehe nicht schnell, ich eile nicht". I do not go fast, I do not rush. DYK? ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 24 September 2014 (UTC) Sca ... see box. Hafspajen (talk) 20:03, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Hafs, I really could use the image of Penitent Magdalene (Die büssende Magdalena), prayer and all, on my talk page. Would you mind blessing me with it? I have had such a perilous and frightening week I cannot even describe it. (And deep sorrow for whatever reason you felt the need for it). Fylbecatulous talk 21:28, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. And for St. Patrick's Prayer. Fylbecatulous talk 02:33, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

The soup NorthAmerica 15:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Winter - Hiver - Zima - Зима II

Some knowledgeable person could write something about how artists have depicted snow and ice, their use of blue shadows on snow, darkness, etc. People struggling in one way or another with snow & cold — how to get the viewer to 'feel' cold.... Sca (talk) 13:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

I suppose you didn't meant me ..? Hafspajen (talk) 14:17, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

When I first wrote that on my talk page (three weeks ago), I thought you might be interested in producing, starting or somehow organizing a text. I'm simply not knowledgeable enough about art techniques or history to do so. (As I think you know, my areas of relative expertise include history and international relations, but not the fine arts.) I realize that English is not your first or even second language, though, so ... I don't know.

Re Magpie, I never did anything to The Magpie (Monet). Anyway, I'm tired of all the mean-spirited bickering at WP:FPC (and at WP:ITNC). For the present, I prefer to contemplate paintings I've assembled; I keep noticing new things in them. Paintings afford the artist many communicative possibilities not available to the photographer — though one also appreciates fine photographic work. Sca (talk) 15:42, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

OK. Well, I don't know if I know enough of Winter paintings either. Ceoil is one of our great art experts, maybe he can help out with some ideas? Night in art is written somewhat in the same manner. If we want to write Winter in art, we need some sources at least. Hafspajen (talk) 15:45, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Да. Sca (talk) 16:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

PS: Happened across this obscure guy — thought you might find him interesting. Sca (talk) 16:31, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

User:Hafspajen/The Fog Warning (Winslow Homer)

You are invited to join the discussion at User:Hafspajen/The Fog Warning (Winslow Homer). Thanks! Glad I could be of help! Thanks. Fdizile (developer) 15:01, 28 September 2014 (UTC)Template:Z48

Where is the discussion. On talk? That's red. Hafspajen (talk) 15:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. I owed Gerda a favour anyway. If you would like to help me in exchange, my current opus magnum Draft:Popular image of Native Americans in German speaking countries is the closest to history of art, the most funny item in preparation is User:Serten/Hobby Horse Polo. Serten (talk) 15:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, Serten, in a minute or two I will, but this is kind of a glowing matter, Because of the red link here. As soon I am done will look. Looks interesting, really. Hafspajen (talk) 15:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Out of mere and egoistic self-interest, I turned your draft Quick and dirty wise into an article. Your sketch was imho sort of too pedagogic in approach, ist dangerous sometimes to have an actual background in the field your dealing with ;) Cheers Serten (talk) 16:24, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

HOWGH HAU? But.. gotta take a look. Hafspajen (talk) 16:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

OK; that was good. In mainspace now. Thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 16:37, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Its called de:Howgh. You have to know, we Tschörmans always know better, compare Marty Two Bulls, 'German Native Enthusiast' 3/23/13 ;) Serten (talk) 16:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Imagine you want help whit illustrations on the Popular image of Native Americans in German speaking countries? Horses, I am not an expert on, do you want me to introduce you to Montanabw (horse expert?) You know that there is a Polo article, no? Hafspajen (talk) 16:44, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Its just that the Lit and art section, Draft:Popular_image_of_Native_Americans_in_German_speaking_countries#Literature_and_art could use somebody with your background. Anyone that is willing to announce

I already used some of your recommondations. Shall we use a common category on commons for the "Indianthusiasm" pictures ? Serten (talk) 18:34, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh dear, that quick and dirty move to mainspace causes attribution problems. Everybody please stand back while I try to do a history merge. I always get confused, so it will take me a while. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

OK everybody: the histories are merged, but it's overwhelmingly the draft version I had saved before seeing Serten's message on my talk page. Xanthemeloumanossprog (sp! I know! sorry!) got in an edit right before I did the merge, so I have put in the categories from that version but you folks need to look carefully at the two last versions and rescue any other improvements that I hadn't seen. Now I suspect I have to co-walk a dog and go to a supermarket; no, I haven't forgotten about your article, Serten, I'm very sorry, I'm kind of busy, but tomorrow my "weekend" starts. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:36, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

No sweat Yngvadottir, think our fisherman is in safe waters again :) Serten (talk) 18:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Happy Award for you

	For your appearance in The Signpost
	Hafspajen, the happiest and dearest congratulations on your appearance in The Signpost on 24 September 2014, and for all your beautiful images. Fylbecatulous talk 15:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Hafs, do you know how difficult it is to find a painting that you don't already have on your talk page? Fylbecatulous talk 15:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

? I will put three on your page in a second ... Hafspajen (talk) 15:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I meant I wanted to place this painting by Korovin in your wikilove award because it is at night and in winter, but it is already linked to your talk page on commons. So now you have it two times. Because I really love it. ツ Fylbecatulous talk 15:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

!12. Impressionistic thanks.

Hafspajen (talk) 15:36, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for my image gallery. It is wonderful. I am keeping my talk page peaceful and a stress free shrine. Anything negative or from people who have hurt me goes straight to my archive. Fylbecatulous talk 15:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I would care archiving it - just throw it away. No rules say you must archive everything, you are not an admin. Hafspajen (talk) 15:50, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Like. Very wise. Fylbecatulous talk 15:56, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Why bother with negative things. Hafspajen (talk) 15:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

The chilling topic

I'll do this much, Hafs, I'll check this outta the library and see if it provides info/inspiration. But I'm not promising anything! — when it comes to art history and criticism, I'm totally out of my depth. Sca (talk) 16:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

PS: Nice that you sent that Korovin to Fylbecatulous — it's one of my very favorites, and it's what got me started on the gallery. Sca (talk) 16:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Hm, yes, that was it. Hafspajen (talk) 16:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, not regularily - some special cheese-shops might have it though. Hafspajen (talk) 17:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

AH, I notice now it your work!! Hafspajen (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Yup, I shot that pic. in '06 from LT across the river from Neman, RU (ex-Ragnit) a few km. upstream from Sovetsk (ex-Tilsit). The Teutonic Knights passed that way repeatedly in the late Middle Ages. They used the river as a water-borne highway to 'pagan' Lithuania, where they rampaged and pillaged — the last crusade.

I got Impressionists in Winter at the library. It's a nice thick tome, but looks to be mainly about those ever-popular French Impressionists. My moody Russkis are left out in the ... cold. Sca (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Ooh - cheese!

Hafs, I've got all those calories to run off already and I've come over here to speak to you - and what do I find? Cheese! I love cheese, so now I want to eat a selection of cheese, biscuits and grapes! Remember I won't be around tomorrow so will you keep an eye on the dog articles (I know you and others do already) but can you keep a special watch on Šarplaninac - there seems to have been a slow edit war going on over Serbia/Kosavo; also Bulldog is being chopped and changed over whether it should be English or British Bulldog - I haven't raked all the way through the talk page on that to work out what the consensus is supposed to be as it seems to have been going on since mid 2012 but it has flared up a bit more recently. Thanks! SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Phil... wait. What shall I do? Is it British Bulldog or English? Hafspajen (talk) 18:52, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Sagaciousphil Hafspajen (talk) 18:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Sagaciousphil... Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Sagaciousphil... ah, she left for her cheese... Hafspajen (talk) 19:05, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

• Unfortunately there is only a very bland cheese selection in the fridge just now - none of my favourites left. Just keep an eye on it - unless you want to plough through all of the talk page. I also forgot - an IP has been trying to add a breed club and Facebook link to Kennel club and List of kennel clubs so watch for that too? SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

• I've got Cropwell Butler Stilton cheese in my fridge, and all the reliable sources on Goss crested china, courtesy of today's Sunday market. I had a quick scan through the Bulldog talk- can't make much sense of it. The names seem to be more prevalent outside of the UK, and may reflect confusion between "British" and "English". I've never heard of an English Bulldog- the bulldog as emblem is always a British emblem, with a Union Jack coat. It might be that the flare-up is due to the rise of English nationalism recently. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I never heard of British Bulldog. In my dog books. Hafspajen (talk) 22:16, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with Wensleydale cheese ;) Hafspajen, do you have anything about Louis Maurer textwise for the German Indiunns article? Are you a more a picture devouted person? Think Maurer would fit excellently in the article. Serten (talk) 20:36, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

• YES - told you so. Hafspajen (talk) 22:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

AH, the girls. Hafspajen (talk) 15:09, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

• Anders Zorn
• 
• Helga
• Looks uncomfortable. - The woman? On the contrary, she looks quite confortable to me.
• Wikström studio
• 
• 
• 
• 
• Kärleksnymf

More themed paintings to ponder. Sca (talk) 20:45, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Nice collection, Sca. Hafspajen (talk) 20:51, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Hafs, since you're in the neighborhood, so to speak, how about sticking this one on the Different Anger page, then nominating it for an FP? Then we can take bets on how much wordage it will generate. (Sept. Morn got 10,500 words.) Sca (talk) 15:00, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

• NakedY bathingY cold waterY bush in foregroundY shrubbery in foregroundY artist is middle-aged white maleY other editors now know which buttons to pressY wrong colour castN. 15,113 words. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

• • Is that a prediction? Sca (talk)

• Would be a certainty if the image was bright yellow as well Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:44, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Kill that Vladimir-thing on your page, if you want me there. Hafspajen (talk) 18:48, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, partially.... Sca (talk)

Some days

Some nights

Yellow daisies dance by moonlight

While the other flowers sleep

And dream of love.

John Duncan Fergusson

On my talk page please

Er, one could just delete the rubbish & move on. Sca (talk) 14:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

I own neither a cowboy hat nor cowboy boots. Sca (talk)

Bet Bgwhite has some ... Hafspajen (talk) 15:24, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Try this Tried, fun!! .

Now try this (or this. Sca (talk) 21:12, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

• Hafs, I see Sca has asked above why you don't delete this. Please feel free to delete this entire section or all of my comments if you want. I want your page to stay happy and peaceful, too. Sorry for being upset and writing about it on your page. Again, move it off if you wish. We did get an apology on my talk page from Bgwhite. So as soon as you have a chance to see it, I will archive it. Sorry, Sca too. This way, it can all be forgotten. Thanks, both. Fylbecatulous talk 19:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

No, no, Fylbe, I wasn't suggesting Hafs delete your comments, but rather that you delete Bgwhite's comments on your talk page. Sca (talk) 21:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Wist je dat...

...de staafkerk van Øye gebouwd is met vier staven die niet, zoals normaal, een hoger middengedeelte ondersteunen, en daarmee alleen te vergelijken is met de staafkerk van Wang in Karpacz? Sca (talk) 15:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Why aren't the four bars as usual, supporting a higher middle section? Hafspajen (talk) 15:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Ik wet het niet. Sca (talk)

Visste du at ...

... tryneskunker lever i Amerika?

Ja, jag visste det - och var orolig varenda sekund att inte köra på en av de i USA. Hafspajen (talk) 15:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Happens all the time, unfortunately. Sca (talk)

Did you know ...

... that September Morn survived the October Revolution, caused widespread controversy in the United States, and was featured on bottle openers, calendars, and candy boxes, but is now in a warehouse? Sca (talk)

Very interesting, Sca... Hafspajen (talk) 14:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Where presumably she's ware-ing clothes? Sca (talk) 14:55, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Schon gewusst?

Die Malerin und Gra­fi­ke­rin Anna Gerresheim gehörte zu den Grün­dern der Küns­tler­ko­lo­nie Ahrenshoop. Sca (talk) 01:26, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

]

• Note that it's discussion Coat's behaviour, and not taking issue with any of your edits. Rather, I thank you for all of your discussion regarding art subjects. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Oops. So he ended up on ANI after all... Hafspajen (talk) 11:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

I've been trying to post a further comment, but I keep on getting interrupted (in real life). So we're being watched by Coat's organisation are we? Creepy. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:23, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

. Bluffing. Hafspajen (talk) 12:32, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps he/she's met his/her Waterloo? (Discussion up to 6,000 words.) Sca (talk)

Well, for three months anyway. Sca (talk)

YES; he is a he - bluffing again. There is something what is called ESP too. Hafspajen (talk) 16:28, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

• Oh alright; "My grandfather was killed at Waterloo" "Really, which platform?" "Don't be silly- as if it mattered which platform." Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 14:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Hm, wonder if we have some good picture about Napoleon to nominate as Featured picture ... Hafspajen (talk) 15:12, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Abel Gance has a great picture. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:25, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Man Writing a Letter

On 2 October 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Man Writing a Letter, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the companion-piece pair of paintings by Gabriël Metsu, Man Writing a Letter and Woman Reading a Letter (both pictured), were stolen and recovered twice? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Woman Reading a Letter

On 2 October 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Woman Reading a Letter, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the companion-piece pair of paintings by Gabriël Metsu, Man Writing a Letter and Woman Reading a Letter (both pictured), were stolen and recovered twice? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Piero di Cosimo - Portrait de femme dit de Simonetta Vespucci - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Piero di Cosimo - Portrait de femme dit de Simonetta Vespucci - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 19:22, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Giorgione - Young Woman (“Laura”) - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Giorgione - Young Woman (“Laura”) - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 20:23, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Cow

Respond? What would you like me to say?

(edit conflict) Say you love me ... Hafspajen (talk) 17:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC) I already stated on the talk page that I translated the article from GerWP, which provided no ref's. Sca (talk) Well, she asked for a reference for the section... otherwise we may take of the section. All the entries has to have references at DYK, and ... I don't know either what to say. Hafspajen (talk) 16:54, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Xanthomelanoussprog ?? Hafspajen (talk) 16:57, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

No worries, someone will fix it...Hafspajen (talk) 17:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Here's the relevant sentence: 1905 starb Rudolf Koller in der Hornau. Sein Grabmal steht im Friedhof Sihlfeld in Zürich neben Gottfried Keller. (Text already mentioned that he and Keller were friends.Sca (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Alas, the pic. of a young Koller (sorry, but believe you added it) seems to be of his friend Böcklin. Image data on Commons include: Description — Bildnis Arnold Böcklin, Gemälde von Rudolf Koller, 1847 (my emph.) — so that needs to be fixed, too. Sca (talk) 17:57, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it is his, it always was. What's the problem?? Hafspajen (talk) 17:59, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

(delayed reply)

Well, if it's a pic. of Böcklin, which it is, we can't use it big & high on the Koller page with the strong implication (by juxtapositioning) that it illustrates the person of Koller. (Note also that the pic. appears as an illustration of Böcklin's bio in the German entry on Böcklin.) Sca (talk) 18:11, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

OOps, - it wasn't Böcky.Hafspajen (talk) 18:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes it is. Sca (talk) 18:11, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

IT wasn't Böcky who painted it, I mean. It is Böcklin, all right, it looks like him. Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, was out of town. Done two alts, but I can't think of any more. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 17:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Reminder now that summer has faded away

This is Fra Stalheim. One of these days I'll find sources and write it up here, if none of the Norwegian contingent does. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:59, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

.Yes, it looks good, the Norwegian thinks this is one of their very best picture - I have anyway a good file here for Crisco... Hafspajen (talk) 20:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Re your questions

I apologise, Hafspajen. I was mistaken in thinking your comment had been edited out and I have said so at ANI.

The exchange I was referring to is this; you wrote:

Support, so many people can't be wrong. Subject is decent by modern standards. So many people can ertainly not wrong be wrong about that issue. Age - what? I have a friend that looks almost like this - and she is 30 years. And yes, we sick Scandinavian people do go swiming together all naked everywhere - and nobody turns a hair. We go to sauna too, same thing - all naked together, no problem. If God created man in his own image, so what's the problem? The human body is a natural thing - though some might find it repulsive - well, that's their problem, and it is in their mind, not in the real world. It can be easy to find faults everywhere - if one is loking hard enough... It looks like we are still back in the same old puritan times when this picture was scandalous - what does it say on progress? Let's not all behave like old world Victorians who put covers on the legs of the chairs and the tables because it made them excited.

I responded:

Comment Hafspajen, sorry, but you're missing the point. Neither I nor, I assume, Coat of Many Colours is objecting to nudity as such. I myself had a clothing-optional early childhood, as an older woman I continue to be shockingly immodest by North American standards (shocked a doctor - again - just days ago), I can't think of much that's more ridiculous than having to be clothed to swim or not being able to go naked when it's too hot for clothes, and I have been frequenting the great galleries of Europe for fifty years totally unfazed by 99.9% of the nudes. The problem is not the FACT of nudity, but in this instance the exploitative NATURE of the depiction of the nakedness of an underage girl.

The reason it makes you look bad is because, as I said, you were not addressing the point of what CoMC had said many times over. Instead, you were arguing against something s/he had never said. That’s not fair debate.

Awien (talk) 22:57, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

That was intentional. I was not going to respond to any of the points or arguments, considering - well -certain things. I was stricly commenting the image - and the debate in general. ... And - he should not responded to my text, because he was asked not to interact with me. Hafspajen (talk) 23:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

As you can se above ... this page may not be edited under any circumstances by User:Child of Midnight, Candle Coat of Many Colours and any of his socks. Just pointing it out. Hafspajen (talk) 23:13, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know...

... that Adolf Ulric Grill of the Swedish Grill (family) once traded a mounted moose for 60 rare birds?

Sca (talk) 00:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Camels

Tsk tsk. You should have come to me first. --kelapstick 01:57, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Very good! Where did you meet these? Hafspajen (talk) 08:45, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

On the way to the airport one day. --kelapstick 11:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Is it true that MIAT still fly these? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk) 11:58, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

You may laugh, but while they don't have any in service, I have seen a few just off the runway at Chinggis Khaan International Airport. Not sure if they are Camels, but they are biplanes painted in MIAT livery. When I get back there (whenever that will be) I will be sure to snap some pictures. --kelapstick 13:36, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Not cow, not camel

Lovely gift for Klappy.

Ask Jee, he should know ... Hafspajen (talk) 15:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC).

Our pug used to spoon with our cat. --kelapstick 13:39, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

How very pleasing when other do the indenting. Hafspajen (talk) 13:43, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

I am a stickler for formatting, even if I do it incorrectly . --kelapstick 13:45, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Visste du att …

… Brudgumseken (se bild) är en månghundraårig tysk ek som förutom att vara naturminne även har egen postadress? Nej, vad ska den ha en postadress till? Får den brev? Hafspajen (talk) 17:08, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Read all about it. Sca (talk)

Bridegroom's Oak. Yngvadottir (talk) 05:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Since you like landscapes

Tahitian Gauguin

Paul Gauguin is well known for his representations of tropical scenes, mostly including naked young women. He traveled to many different paradise islands in his time and with so many different sights to inspire him, it is no surprise that the majority of his artwork stems from these visits. The one pictured here is titled 'Aha oe Feii' and features two native ladies who are enjoying the heat of the day and relaxing next to a nearby tree. Painted with the characteristic muted and earthy colours, this art print by Gauguin would work wonders to transport you to a relaxing, tropical island whenever you need it.

This painting belongs to the stage of Tahitian Gauguin. The painter, who moved to the South Seas, had started painting with exotic content. He depicted especially women who are portrayed nude - chaste and pure nudity-. He intended to show the islands of the Pacific Ocean as a little corner of paradise where people live ain peaceful harmony between human and nature. this concept remains a mystery. Gauguin came from the world of Western Europe, much more complex and filled with selfish social and political and economic interests. Gauguin discovered there a different life. A life more simple and pure, simple but very obvious, made of genuine things, pervaded by a spirituality.

In this painting depicts two women, one sitting and the other outstretched on the beach. The subject is described by the painter in his book "Noa Noa":

two sisters on the beach that had just taken a bath, lay in random voluptuous attitudes, talk about a love of the past and of the future projects of love. A reminder of the divide: "What! Are you jealous? "

As usual in the paintings of Gauguin, the title of the work is written on the canvas, in this case in the lower left. It is written in Tahitian and its exotic sound serves to give more charm to the picture, a phrase actually uttered by the two women, to give more specific content to the framework.

If it was not for this phrase in the corner of the painting, the depiction could be mistaken for a pure decorative symphony of colours, searching only for the formal beauty of their bodies. But Gauguin meant a different stament with this picture. It has different meaning: the complicity of all women in the dialogue about the deepest, timeless mystery of life: love. The eternal feeling of love and searching about its meaning.

The picture with its decorative characteris more a two-dimensional image than a three dimensional.

Gauguin was very fond of this picture, so that in a letter to a friend he wrote: "I've been doing lately a naked heart, two women on the beach, I think it's also my best so far."

The painting was later bought by the Russian collector Sukin and like all the rest of his collection was nationalized by the Soviet state immediately after the October Revolution. Today the picture is displayed in the Pushkin Museum in Moscow.

Sorry!

Hi Hafspajen - I'm sorry about the mix-up. I didn't even actually read the content of what you wrote, and I had no intent to erase it. I'm editing on a tablet, and my thumb slipped, so I instantly reverted. I really should have dropped you a note, for which I apologise. Kafka Liz (talk) 14:34, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

OOps, sorry yourself. Hafspajen (talk) 14:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Today's peinture suédoise

Herman the Herring - or Herringer....Hafspajen (talk) 15:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

We expect something more blonde In the Car under this title! Grudgingly Serten (talk) 17:05, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Kay Blacklock

Hello! Your submission of William Kay Blacklock at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:53, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Still have some questions about this. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:30, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Found Blacklock in Post Office Edinburgh and Leith Directory 1908-09 here. He was Principal Teacher (presumably since the college opened in 1907). Bonham's sold Wool Stapler's Yard last year with an address on the back for the Blacklocks, 152 Fosse Road South Leicester Christmas 1920. The address is visible on Google Maps (house number's not blurred)- red-painted house. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Wow, great, Xanty, that was a good detective work. He is somewhat elusive, but you nailed him. Hafspajen (talk) 23:30, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Edouard Manet - The Balcony - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Edouard Manet - The Balcony - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 02:30, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:Winslow Homer - The Fog Warning - Google Art Project.jpg

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Winslow Homer - The Fog Warning - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust 19:32, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Great! Could be used if you have to issue a warning ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:15, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

• Paul Gauguin's works from the Tahitian period
• 
• 
• 
• 
• 
• 

DYK for Rudolf Koller

On 8 October 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rudolf Koller, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Rudolf Koller painted "the Swiss national animal" running in the road in front of traffic (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rudolf Koller. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Impressive! Tell the others, - but I guess they watch anyway. Off for some days with little acccess, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Where did you found that one? Hafspajen (talk) 15:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Commons. Sca (talk) 01:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Rene Lalique Edit

Hello Hafspajen. I decided to write you because of your status as a long time editor. I am writing concerning your undoing an edit (that itself was an undo) I made on the Rene Lalique page. A person created an entirely new section called Public Collections as well as at the same time or near that time, other related external links were placed elsewhere on the page. In the new section, they then listed 4 or 5 “museums” some linked to wiki pages about that museum, some to the museum, some without links. I undid their entire edit in good faith. I had three issues with the major edit:

1. The first so called museum on the list is a dealer’s related museum that is part of a cross linked sales effort by a dealer. The so called museum shares a mailing address, a phone number and website IP address with the dealer. The two sites, the dealer sales site and the “museum” site are cross linked to each other. The people involved buy and sell Lalique and send out emails and inquiries for buying and selling using their various museum titles. I believe this “museum” is of zero value to the wiki project. I recently removed several spam links related to that dealer and museum that were put in at the same time on the Rene Lalique page which you can see from the history. The inclusion of that so called museum makes the entire section appear to me as vandalism, and even more so being shortly after the insertion and removal of the spam links to that dealer and museum. I can’t imagine that any serious person would include that “museum” on a list of museums that might be of value to the wiki project.

2. I have a good faith belief that the person putting up the new section I reverted has a COI (not related to the dealer museum information as far as I know)

However even if this is not the case, it would have still been my decision to undo the new section based on the first “museum” on the list and the following 3rd issue.

3. Note the newly placed external links to the Rijksmuseum (this museum is also in the newly created section) and the V & A museum in the reference section. I believe these external links are spam, are out of place in the reference section as nothing in the article is validated by a citation to the information on those lines, let alone external links (the links are to picture pages), and these may also be COI. I thought I was deleting those also as part of the undo that you reversed.

In short, I believe that the newly created section is spam, vandalism, and possibly a COI as well, in addition to not adding anything substantive to the page. And that doesn’t account for the negative impact of the sales linked “museum” appearing on the page as part of this new section quickly after I deleted the previous spam entries. The other external links to picture pages at two museums (one of which is also in the new section) added as references are not references at all, are link spam and may be COI as well.

That is why I reverted the entry. I assume you could not know all of what I have written when you undid my edit to remove these things.

Respectfully, Patagoniaddd (talk) 20:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Then please remove the link. But the name of the museum is good to have, can you leave that? Hafspajen (talk) 20:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you for the reply.

How about this: I will remove the spam references and the new section. I will add a sentence to the main listing saying that the works of Rene Lalique are in the collections of a large number of public institutions around the world including ….. and I will mention half a dozen serious museums as examples……. the Gulbenkian, the Rijksmuseum, the Musee Lalique and the Musee des art decoratif in France, the New York Metropolitan Museum, and the Corning Museum. This will leave the Rijksmuseum on the page. I got these names from the ongoing compilation of museums holding the works of Rene Lalique that is taking place at rlalique.com at this page: rlalique.com/rlalique/lalique-museum.php.

Would this be reasonable both from a common sense standpoint, cleaning up the issues, and also be of value to readers of the page?

Patagoniaddd (talk) 15:15, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, a very good compromise, Patagoniaddd. Very clever, do so. Hafspajen (talk) 19:35, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Winter again

Not. This book is indeed about the French Impressionists. It focuses mainly on Monet, Pissarro and Alfred Sisley, with nods to a few others, and includes much biographical detail. It seems to be sort of a glorified brochure for an exhibit sponsored by J.P. Morgan Co. in 1999. Its relevance to my semi-Russified gallery is minimal; furthermore, I don't particularly care for Pissarro's style, or Sisley's either.

To reiterate: When it comes to art history and criticism, I'm out of my depth. A knowledgeable art historian could write something useful; I can't. Besides which, lately I've been much distracted by trying to fix my broken garage-door opener, which for an American is an absolute necessity to life as we know it. Spent most of yesterday trying to figure it out. Grrrrrr.

Sorry. Sca (talk) 14:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, are we going to write rthat article we have to start SOMEWHERE. We start and will see. Hafspajen (talk) 14:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Some pics

Rudi review

Viewed 8171 times in the last 30 days.

What do we win, a hunk of Appenzeller cheese, perhaps? Sca (talk) 13:31, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Just seen a Sebastopol Samuel Holland, windmill with distant view of a village and town, in filthy and damaged condition, but the quality of brushwork stands out- "lot 91 Good quantity of framed pictures and prints". Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 14:03, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Well at least a stubb we can always make , Sebastopol Samuel Holland (1880-1911) was an English -British? painter, like http://www.bamfords-auctions.co.uk/buying/auctions/Three-Day-Antiques-and-Fine-Art-Sale--March-2007/lot-1194-Sebastopol-Samuel-Holland-British-A-quiet-moment/ ... A-quiet-moment .... You have a list of some of his works here ... Hafspajen (talk) 14:19, 10 October 2014 (UTC) Probably not him. Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC) Here is something that might get uploaded, since we have 0 of him on commons. http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/13537/lot/203/Hafspajen (talk) 14:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

WHY IS THIS BLACKLISTED?

too. Hafspajen (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• You need to use the URL that goes directly to the pdf - in this case it is http://www.bhandl.co.uk/sales/assets/fs/2010/10/20/fs201010-pictures.pdf SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:52, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! Hafspajen (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I couldn't find that! I think he's probably an East Midlands painter- the windmill painting should be easy to trace (stone-built tower windmill with a boat-shaped cap) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:17, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, a list of his paintings, and a stubb will do to start with.. Hafspajen (talk) 16:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Voulez-vous coucher avec Boucher?

• 
• 
• 
• 
• 
• 

Pas coucher avec Boucher, Xanty, avec la filles! Hafspajen (talk) 18:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Les demoiselles du Boucher

ne pas dormir dans ma coucher

Elles sont actif tous le nuit

puis le matin, tiens, elles fuit.

Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:19, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• Mes deux belles Demoiselles Boucher en mission. Elles ont fui pour ne pas être victimes de violations flagrantes des droits de la personne. Hafspajen (talk) 18:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• Christ Healing the Deaf-Mute
• 
• 
• 

Remington painting

Hope you don't mind me grabbing the Remington painting but you had your chance, Mwahahaha! Adam Cuerden 19:37, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK?

... that John C. Calhoun before the American Civil War infamously defended slavery as a "positive good"? Sca (talk) 14:20, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Never said he was positive. I said he was energetic. He is creepy of course, but well captured. Hafspajen (talk) 14:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Understand. In the painting his eyes look kinda ... frenzied, fanatical. Sca (talk) 14:53, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Signpost

I think four images at the top is too many - too much page space before the text starts. What we could do is add a smaller gallery between the articles and pictures, though. The trouble is that the galleries tend to start breaking into two lines at narrower screen widths, unless you very carefully watch how much you're putting in them. Adam Cuerden 16:10, 12 October 2014 (UTC) Well, it was just a suggestion. Hafspajen (talk) 19:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Cross-cultural communication

Haffy, what part of no don't you understand? Sca (talk) 23:05, 12 October 2014 (UTC)