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I had added the template to all the pages that it mentioned; but if you're going to add new pages, you should add the template to those pages immediately. ]] (]) 19:19, 11 October 2014 (UTC) I had added the template to all the pages that it mentioned; but if you're going to add new pages, you should add the template to those pages immediately. ]] (]) 19:19, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
:The template wasn't really finished when made. It still isn't, but i'm grateful for your help for placing the templates in the articles. -- ] (]) 19:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC) :The template wasn't really finished when made. It still isn't, but i'm grateful for your help for placing the templates in the articles. -- ] (]) 19:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I just saw you deleted most of my amendments and corrections to the DS Scrolls.
- Misplaced Pages is for the general public, 99% of users want a quick, relevant, visually clear information. At least in the intro part.
Some read before going to the site, and expect concrete info on how things LOOK LIKE IN REALITY, what can be seen today. It's not all academic discussion.
- As it was - and is, again, thanks to your reversal - the article leaves the curious non-specialist with the WRONG BASIC information.
- There is no space and time for ego trips. Endless discussions are not the purpose (it's not a seminary or a chatroom on FB), nor the way of doing this properly.
- There are a few AUTHORITATIVE sources, and I only used 2 of those: the DSS Digital Library, and the dedicated DSS website of the Israel Museum who OWNS the best pieces.
- I have climbed, on foot, to half of the caves at Qumran, including the very hard-to-reach Cave 1, have went in and taken pictures, some were published in specialty books.
How do you reference that kind of knowledge?
- The Dead Sea waterline has been fast retreating for several decades, it is silly to insist on the caves being 1 mile or 2 km or whatever from the shore.
Since the discovery the waterline has moved by a good 1 km! Even if it's not written in Prof. X or Y's book, because they don't deal with that.
- The dating given in the intro is contradicted by the very paragraph on "Age" further down and the sources given there.
The DSS Digital Library, that is: the people HOLDING THE MSS AND DOING RESEARCH ON THEM, give a date - 3rd c. BCE to 1st c. CE. Enough!
Write a sub-paragraph, NOT in the intro, about different opinions, but leave the intro clear & mainstream for 99% of the users.
Besides, the very distinction made by the Digital Library and introduced by me (and deleted by you), of "Qumran Caves Scrolls" versus "additional scrolls", plays a part here, since the oldest piece (M 17) is from Wadi Murabba'at, not the 11 Qumran caves.
- Nabatean was not a language. In the period we're talking about they wrote in their own dialect of Aramaic, using in their own alphabet, true, but still in Aramaic.
Did you visit Petra, Khirbet Tannur, the Spice Road, etc.? I did, studied and wrote about their culture and was thorough - and paid for that.
- Please show some respect for other contributors' work, erase the bits that are totally wrong or opposed to your knowledge, but not whole chunks of info.
Inviting to "discussions" isn't always the appropriate way.
Regards
PS: There are A FEW Wik. pages "owned" by some single-minded "contributors", who only accept "their way or the highway".
If you feel that way about the DSS, pls. tell me, I have a life & no time to waste on re-reversing ad nauseam.
] (]) 17:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Way to be quick to accuse me of edit warring, when you reverted 3 times and I did only twice. And creating a new user account, is not sock puppetry. That's called taking the advice of wikipedia and creating an account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.48.187.167 (talk) 22:49, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

October 2014

Information icon Thank you for your contributions. Please mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Book of Daniel, as "minor" only if they are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Also, it would help if you edit the whole article at once, and use preview, rather than clogging the history and watchlists with many small edits. Elizium23 (talk) 01:52, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


Archiving

I see it hasn't done it yet. You could maybe change the time to 10 days old and wait. That would make pre-October archive, I think. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:28, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I removed the code because the bot doesn't want to function. Know anyone who has no issues with bots? Perhaps a computer geek/coder...? -- JudeccaXIII (talk) 18:51, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I've asked someone at IRC to help. Sorry I've been useless. I really do not understand automatic archiving. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:22, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Aha. It appears that the main bot is not working "...Bots I, II, and III do work but MiszaBot itself was malfunctioning and has been blocked for over a year..." Someone will come and help soon. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:26, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I have set up a scheme that should lead to Lowercase sigmabot III archiving the talk page. The archival parameters are described here in some detail; those I used will archive everything older than 10 days, excluding the newest four sections on the talk page. Huon (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

St Paul's Conversion narrative discrepancy

I made a recent edit to your entry on St Paul. You called it NO constructive. In the section about St Paul's conversion you mention "biblical scholar" Reza Aslan as being skeptical of St Paul's conversion story. He calls it propaganda. In order to be just and fair, it must be pointed out that Mr Aslan is a Muslim and that he vehemently denies the divinity of Christ. So Mr Aslan is not an objective biblical scholar but rather a very bias one. The credibility of this section of the article on St Paul is heavily compromised by someone who clearly has an agenda. I don't believe it is fair. In matters of Sacred Scripture, the highest authority on these matters is the Pontifical Biblical Institute in Jerusalem and in Rome. Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, and Islamic scholars worked together to translate the new testament.

Template:Non-canonical books referenced in the Bible

I had added the template to all the pages that it mentioned; but if you're going to add new pages, you should add the template to those pages immediately. StAnselm (talk) 19:19, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

The template wasn't really finished when made. It still isn't, but i'm grateful for your help for placing the templates in the articles. -- JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I just saw you deleted most of my amendments and corrections to the DS Scrolls. - Misplaced Pages is for the general public, 99% of users want a quick, relevant, visually clear information. At least in the intro part.

 Some read before going to the site, and expect concrete info on how things LOOK LIKE IN REALITY, what can be seen today. It's not all academic discussion.

- As it was - and is, again, thanks to your reversal - the article leaves the curious non-specialist with the WRONG BASIC information. - There is no space and time for ego trips. Endless discussions are not the purpose (it's not a seminary or a chatroom on FB), nor the way of doing this properly. - There are a few AUTHORITATIVE sources, and I only used 2 of those: the DSS Digital Library, and the dedicated DSS website of the Israel Museum who OWNS the best pieces. - I have climbed, on foot, to half of the caves at Qumran, including the very hard-to-reach Cave 1, have went in and taken pictures, some were published in specialty books.

 How do you reference that kind of knowledge?

- The Dead Sea waterline has been fast retreating for several decades, it is silly to insist on the caves being 1 mile or 2 km or whatever from the shore.

 Since the discovery the waterline has moved by a good 1 km! Even if it's not written in Prof. X or Y's book, because they don't deal with that.

- The dating given in the intro is contradicted by the very paragraph on "Age" further down and the sources given there.

 The DSS Digital Library, that is: the people HOLDING THE MSS AND DOING RESEARCH ON THEM, give a date - 3rd c. BCE to 1st c. CE. Enough!
 Write a sub-paragraph, NOT in the intro, about different opinions, but leave the intro clear & mainstream for 99% of the users.
 Besides, the very distinction made by the Digital Library and introduced by me (and deleted by you), of "Qumran Caves Scrolls" versus "additional scrolls", plays a part here, since the oldest piece (M 17) is from Wadi Murabba'at, not the 11 Qumran caves. 

- Nabatean was not a language. In the period we're talking about they wrote in their own dialect of Aramaic, using in their own alphabet, true, but still in Aramaic.

Did you visit Petra, Khirbet Tannur, the Spice Road, etc.? I did, studied and wrote about their culture and was thorough - and paid for that.

- Please show some respect for other contributors' work, erase the bits that are totally wrong or opposed to your knowledge, but not whole chunks of info.

 Inviting to "discussions" isn't always the appropriate way.

Regards

PS: There are A FEW Wik. pages "owned" by some single-minded "contributors", who only accept "their way or the highway". If you feel that way about the DSS, pls. tell me, I have a life & no time to waste on re-reversing ad nauseam. Arminden (talk) 17:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)