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:::@{{U|GorillaWarfare}} forgot to update the tally when casting her vote on the DP case. I was going to update it, but I guess I'm not allowed... --''''']]'''''</span> 00:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC) :::@{{U|GorillaWarfare}} forgot to update the tally when casting her vote on the DP case. I was going to update it, but I guess I'm not allowed... --''''']]'''''</span> 00:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
::::] has done it. Based on NYB's comments, I'd say that anyone updating it is fine provided that the change is unambiguously correct. If there is any ambiguity about an arb's intention I'd say it's far better to leave a note on their talk page than to try and guess. ] (]) 01:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC) ::::] has done it. Based on NYB's comments, I'd say that anyone updating it is fine provided that the change is unambiguously correct. If there is any ambiguity about an arb's intention I'd say it's far better to leave a note on their talk page than to try and guess. ] (]) 01:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::We're all out of practice at updating tallies since they recoded RfA to update them automatically. Since the election is in progress, perhaps we should add a question on counting skills to the candidate questionnaire. (Or not.) ] (]) 02:53, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipediocracy doxxing thing

If any of the admins need a link to it or content related to it, feel free to ask me and I'll send it privately; I didn't include a link to the actual doxx (personal documents) for obvious reasons. Titanium Dragon (talk) 07:23, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Notification that relates to arbitration

There is a proposal to abolish Request for Comments User Conduct. See discussion here: Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#Do Away with RFC/U. Thank you, Oiyarbepsy (talk) 15:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2014

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Regarding the arbitration request for Gamergate, I would like to make a statement as an IP user previously involved in the talk page discussion who has also been following other arbitration requests. I began editing Misplaced Pages with the Gamergate article talk page as a test case; I had intended to register an account if things went at all smoothly. The chaos and blatant hypocrisy I have witnessed over the last several weeks have served to ensure that I will never again entertain this notion, at least not unless certain users are permanently banned and never heard from again. My statement is as follows.

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Statement by previously involved IP user

During the time before I was temporarily blocked as WP:NOTHERE (an absurd notion in my opinion, since what could possibly contribute more to Misplaced Pages than calling out the malicious behaviour of clearly biased editors?), I was informed that "WP:BLP applies everywhere on Misplaced Pages" - that is, on Talk pages, and I presume in arbitration requests and other such procedures as well. I have also been informed that, while "supporters of Gamergate" don't qualify for BLP protection, members of the GameJournoPros list do, even though they aren't listed in the article (or anywhere on Misplaced Pages as far as I can tell). Therefore, it is clear to me that Eron Gjoni (Zoe Quinn's ex) qualifies for the same protections.

In light of this, I find it amazing that, throughout the various edits to the GG Talk page and in arbitration requests (just one example), we see users like Ryulong, NorthBySouthBaranof, Tarc and RedPenOfDoom repeatedly describing Gjoni's post as "ranting", insisting that his allegations be explicitly marked as "false", and generally doing everything possible to discredit him. This plays directly into a narrative I have been seeing across the internet that attempts to dismiss Gjoni's "ramblings of a jilted ex" (note that the claim that Gjoni is "jilted" is factually incorrect, per Gjoni's account, as he was the one to end the relationship).

This all appears to be backed up by referring to the reliable sources as having "proven all the allegations false". However, there are several problems with this reasoning.

1. The reliable sources being cited refer to exactly one "allegation", namely, the allegation that Grayson traded a positive review of Quinn's game for sex.

2. The allegation in question is not present in Gjoni's blog post.

3. None of the reliable sources claim that the allegation is present in Gjoni's blog post.

4. As far as I can tell, none of the reliable sources actually address the substance of anything Gjoni said at all; they merely dismiss him as a ranting ex in the same way that the Misplaced Pages editors in question are doing now.

5. None of the allegations made by Gjoni relate to journalistic ethics. Every claim about journalistic ethics breaches being discussed in Gamergate (which relate to a wide variety of individuals, not all tied to either Grayson or Quinn in any obvious way) was raised by someone else. Gjoni simply named Grayson, a figure that many people knew of; others did the (at times faulty) research.

Further to all of this - as far as I can tell, at no point has anything Gjoni had to say, even about his own experiences and not relating to Quinn, been allowed to appear on the Gamergate page, although Quinn was afforded this privilege via her article for Cracked. (Incidentally, that article also lies indirectly about Gjoni, as it references "a jilted ex's revenge porn" - Gjoni never produced nor released pornography of any kind of Quinn, and again was not "jilted").

I am forced to conclude that the sources are being deliberately misrepresented in order to push a narrative which is blatantly in violation of WP:BLP against Eron Gjoni. This behaviour is indefensible and just one of many reasons why something has to be done here.

I would also like to quickly echo the sentiment that User:Ryulong getting away scot-free with 15RR is another clear reason.

74.12.93.242 (talk) 02:35, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Unoficial clerking

Mr. Random has taken it upon himself to update the accept/decline/recuse/comment counts despite being an invested party.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 07:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Are the numbers incorrect? NE Ent 13:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Don't sweat the small stuff. Jehochman 20:19, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Nice that someone volunteers for a boring job :-) jni ...just not interested 23:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
A recently conducted (albeit in my head) survey reflects that in a listing of the top 10 problems confronting the Arbitration Committee, the wrong person updating the vote tallies did not make the list. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
@GorillaWarfare forgot to update the tally when casting her vote on the DP case. I was going to update it, but I guess I'm not allowed... --Biblioworm 00:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Msnicki has done it. Based on NYB's comments, I'd say that anyone updating it is fine provided that the change is unambiguously correct. If there is any ambiguity about an arb's intention I'd say it's far better to leave a note on their talk page than to try and guess. Thryduulf (talk) 01:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
We're all out of practice at updating tallies since they recoded RfA to update them automatically. Since the election is in progress, perhaps we should add a question on counting skills to the candidate questionnaire. (Or not.) Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:53, 17 November 2014 (UTC)