| Revision as of 14:05, 1 December 2014 editHullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers96,059 edits →Audrey Bitoni: delete← Previous edit | Revision as of 19:38, 1 December 2014 edit undo108.41.160.197 (talk) →Audrey BitoniNext edit → | ||
| Line 13: | Line 13: | ||
| * '''Keep'''. Enough delete articles - after Phoenix Marie, and now this! Audrey Bitoni is a significant personality and has a place here. She deserves a Misplaced Pages article over a number of amateur football players and some terrorists and politicians. It is a popular star in the world! Greetings from Bulgaria!--] (]) 13:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | * '''Keep'''. Enough delete articles - after Phoenix Marie, and now this! Audrey Bitoni is a significant personality and has a place here. She deserves a Misplaced Pages article over a number of amateur football players and some terrorists and politicians. It is a popular star in the world! Greetings from Bulgaria!--] (]) 13:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Delete''' per nominator's sound and accurate analysis. There is no credible claim that the subject passes PORNBIO, with only nominations and insignificant employee-of-the month type awards. No independent sourcing as required by the GNG and by BLP, just blogs, promotional interviews, press releases, and data dumps. No reliable sourcing for any biographical content; none meeting the standard of "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". Just another BLP contrived from primary and promotional sources. ] (]) 14:05, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' per nominator's sound and accurate analysis. There is no credible claim that the subject passes PORNBIO, with only nominations and insignificant employee-of-the month type awards. No independent sourcing as required by the GNG and by BLP, just blogs, promotional interviews, press releases, and data dumps. No reliable sourcing for any biographical content; none meeting the standard of "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". Just another BLP contrived from primary and promotional sources. ] (]) 14:05, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
| :: Our sources are Xcitement Magazine, ZZBabes, ZZinsider (video), Tampa Deja Vu (Video), XXXWasteland, XBiz, XtremeMagazine, and a Mark Madden (video) interview for 105.9 radio. Plus, we have the usual IAFD.com. Granted, these sources may seem like trashy, unreliable "press releases" and/or "promotional interviews," but you apparently forget that she's a pornstar. You're not going to get any interviews or information from the federal government or from CNN about Audrey Bitoni. The sources we're using for her page is the best we can do for any pornstar, with exceptions of Jenna Jameson, Sasha Grey, and Ron Jeremy. Either this page remains or you remove 99% of the pornstar biographies on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 19:38, 1 December 2014 (UTC)Redban | |||
Revision as of 19:38, 1 December 2014
Audrey Bitoni
AfDs for this article:- Audrey Bitoni (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non-notable pornographic actress whose article is supported by poor sources. Fails both PORNBIO in that her "awards" are not significant and the general notability guidelines due to the paucity of reliable sources that exist for her. Morbidthoughts (talk) 21:45, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - I disagree with the notion that Audrey Bitoni is a "non-notable" pornstar. She's been around since 2006. She's made 234 titles as per IAFD, including scenes for elite companies such as Brazzers and Bangbros. Her twitter page has 134,000 followers even though she never responds to her fans' tweets (For reference, Gracie Glam has 91,000 followers on twitter). She has an AVN Award nomination for Best New Starlet. The cited sources are mostly interviews, some of which are even videos (So you have direct, visual proof). Redban (talk) 23:58, 30 November 2014 (UTC)Redban
- That direct visual "proof" is a promotional video from Brazzers, falling under WP:NOTRELIABLE. Morbidthoughts (talk) 00:28, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- The ZZinsider video is hardly "promotional." Is there a reasonable cause to believe she lied in that interview, given the general tone and the non-sexual answer relating to her name's origin? It's not as though the interview was part of a porn flick. Furthermore, her page uses many other interview sources from radioshows, magazines, and internet sites.108.41.160.197 (talk) 02:45, 1 December 2014 (UTC)Redban
- It is a promotional video by Brazzers and it wasn't even uploaded to Youtube by them.. The whole point of this AfD is that the article based these poor sources does not satisfy the notability guidelines. Morbidthoughts (talk) 06:38, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- The ZZinsider video is hardly "promotional." Is there a reasonable cause to believe she lied in that interview, given the general tone and the non-sexual answer relating to her name's origin? It's not as though the interview was part of a porn flick. Furthermore, her page uses many other interview sources from radioshows, magazines, and internet sites.108.41.160.197 (talk) 02:45, 1 December 2014 (UTC)Redban
- Weak Keep - I wish that a performer who has this many videos and brushes with various awards had accomplished more, but on Misplaced Pages popularity is not enough. I'll do some looking for content, but if I can't find anything worthwhile, I will change this to Delete. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 00:00, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- If it's worth much to you, I found out that she was nominated for "New Starlet of the Year" in 2008 for XBiz. That plus the 3 AVN nominations is solid for a woman who has done 234 films. Gianna Michaels did 200+ more scenes than Bitoni, and she has 4 AVN awards and 1 XBiz, a similar rate to Bitoni. 108.41.160.197 (talk) 03:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)Redban
- Keep. Enough delete articles - after Phoenix Marie, and now this! Audrey Bitoni is a significant personality and has a place here. She deserves a Misplaced Pages article over a number of amateur football players and some terrorists and politicians. It is a popular star in the world! Greetings from Bulgaria!--Hillary Scott`love (talk) 13:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator's sound and accurate analysis. There is no credible claim that the subject passes PORNBIO, with only nominations and insignificant employee-of-the month type awards. No independent sourcing as required by the GNG and by BLP, just blogs, promotional interviews, press releases, and data dumps. No reliable sourcing for any biographical content; none meeting the standard of "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". Just another BLP contrived from primary and promotional sources. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 14:05, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Our sources are Xcitement Magazine, ZZBabes, ZZinsider (video), Tampa Deja Vu (Video), XXXWasteland, XBiz, XtremeMagazine, and a Mark Madden (video) interview for 105.9 radio. Plus, we have the usual IAFD.com. Granted, these sources may seem like trashy, unreliable "press releases" and/or "promotional interviews," but you apparently forget that she's a pornstar. You're not going to get any interviews or information from the federal government or from CNN about Audrey Bitoni. The sources we're using for her page is the best we can do for any pornstar, with exceptions of Jenna Jameson, Sasha Grey, and Ron Jeremy. Either this page remains or you remove 99% of the pornstar biographies on Misplaced Pages. 108.41.160.197 (talk) 19:38, 1 December 2014 (UTC)Redban