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			== Vandalism and First Party Editing ==

			I would like to point out that this article is particularly susceptible to vandalism and first party editing as ], all of the current content on the page added by editors has been properly sourced, the company has an ongoing history of . Their affiliate companies do as well such as ] which were verbatim from their website still including trade mark and copyright unicode symbols. This is currently why the protection level of ] has been raised to prevent vandalism by anonymous editors. I am going to recommend that the ] and that they refrain from further editing without first reaching a consensus. ] (]) 17:23, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
			:Do not attempt to copyrighted material. This is accordance with policy. No consensus is needed. The other content that contains {{tl\|citation needed}} template has been there for months, and it has been challenged. It therefore is perfectly acceptable to remove it per our policy on ]. I will not again remove that though, as perhaps with effort we can verify those claims. — '''] <sup>]</sup>''' 17:29, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
			::I still have to request that the properly sourced content not be removed <b>along with</b> the disputed content, this seems rather peculiar to me. Additionally here are some more examples of section blanking, vandalism, and edit warring by anonymous editors and ip addresses to this article. ] (]) 17:50, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
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			:::I have gutted the "lawsuits" and "controversy" sections and removed all paragraphs that only cited unreliable sources such as blogs, forum threads or YouTube. If no reliable third-party sources have taken note of those "controversies", we could just as well cover them in a "storms in a teacup" section... Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a chronicler of forum drama. The remainder should probably be focused on what Techdirt, bitgamer and Coin Arcade report.
			:::I also agree with ]'s removal of the YouTube video. He's right that it's likely problematic on copyright grounds, and even if it were not, it's not a reliable source anyway and should not be linked. See ]. ] (]) 18:08, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
			::::And by the way, I also concur with , which removed yet more negative claims not supported by the source. ] (]) 18:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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The article relies heavily on first party sources of information and fails WP:Notability. BlitzGreg (talk) 18:05, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism and First Party Editing

I would like to point out that this article is particularly susceptible to vandalism and first party editing as GameMaker: Studio, all of the current content on the page added by editors has been properly sourced, the company has an ongoing history of copy and pasting unreliable content with unreliable sources. Their affiliate companies do as well such as HandyGames which were verbatim copying and pasting mission statements from their website still including trade mark and copyright unicode symbols. This is currently why the protection level of GameMaker: Studio has been raised to prevent vandalism by anonymous editors. I am going to recommend that the protection level of this article be raised and that they refrain from further editing without first reaching a consensus. BlitzGreg (talk) 17:23, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Do not attempt to restore copyrighted material. This is accordance with policy. No consensus is needed. The other content that contains {{citation needed}} template has been there for months, and it has been challenged. It therefore is perfectly acceptable to remove it per our policy on verifiability. I will not again remove that though, as perhaps with effort we can verify those claims. — MusikAnimal 17:29, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I still have to request that the properly sourced content not be removed along with the disputed content, this seems rather peculiar to me. Additionally here are some more examples of section blanking, vandalism, and edit warring by anonymous editors and ip addresses to this article. BlitzGreg (talk) 17:50, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I have gutted the "lawsuits" and "controversy" sections and removed all paragraphs that only cited unreliable sources such as blogs, forum threads or YouTube. If no reliable third-party sources have taken note of those "controversies", we could just as well cover them in a "storms in a teacup" section... Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a chronicler of forum drama. The remainder should probably be focused on what Techdirt, bitgamer and Coin Arcade report.

I also agree with MusikAnimal's removal of the YouTube video. He's right that it's likely problematic on copyright grounds, and even if it were not, it's not a reliable source anyway and should not be linked. See WP:ELNO. Huon (talk) 18:08, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

And by the way, I also concur with this edit, which removed yet more negative claims not supported by the source. Huon (talk) 18:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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