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:::And remember, {{U|Pigsonthewing}}, one also needs to ]. I merely said I got the "impression", that was not being bad faith. Merging the two templates would cause a hyperlink issue; because the syntax within the Eurovision version has things that create a link to Eurovision pages. For example <nowiki>]</nowiki>, which allows the need to only input the country, so that it will automatically direct to articles such as ]. We could not use that for Can i Gymru, as it would create a link to ], when there is no such article. The same is for the ABU Radio template which you also nominated. If we used the Eurovision version, it would not direct biennially, and would create annual links. Also it would show at the bottom on the inforbox that it is Eurovision, when we'd need to show it is ABU Radio. <span style="font-family:Corbel;text-shadow:#F70 2px 4px 6px;">''']&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;<sup>]'''</sup></span> 20:46, 6 December 2014 (UTC) :::And remember, {{U|Pigsonthewing}}, one also needs to ]. I merely said I got the "impression", that was not being bad faith. Merging the two templates would cause a hyperlink issue; because the syntax within the Eurovision version has things that create a link to Eurovision pages. For example <nowiki>]</nowiki>, which allows the need to only input the country, so that it will automatically direct to articles such as ]. We could not use that for Can i Gymru, as it would create a link to ], when there is no such article. The same is for the ABU Radio template which you also nominated. If we used the Eurovision version, it would not direct biennially, and would create annual links. Also it would show at the bottom on the inforbox that it is Eurovision, when we'd need to show it is ABU Radio. <span style="font-family:Corbel;text-shadow:#F70 2px 4px 6px;">''']&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;<sup>]'''</sup></span> 20:46, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
::::A merger woudl not simply copy parameters from one template to another, but would address cases such as those you describe, and build in any necessary alternative parameters or switches. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:52, 6 December 2014 (UTC) ::::A merger woudl not simply copy parameters from one template to another, but would address cases such as those you describe, and build in any necessary alternative parameters or switches. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:52, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

* ''Note:''' the serious breach of ], at ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:55, 6 December 2014 (UTC)


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Template:Infobox SBTVD standard

Template:Infobox SBTVD standard (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Used for just eight articles on Brazilian digital television standards. Redundant to

Templates for discussion/Log/2014 December 6

. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:18, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox W3C standard

Template:Infobox W3C standard (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{Infobox computing standard}}, which has the advantage of having an |organization= parameter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:16, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox perpetual motion machine

Template:Infobox perpetual motion machine (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox controversial invention (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox perpetual motion machine with Template:Infobox controversial invention.
Similar templates, with overlapping purpose, and only six transclusions between them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:13, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Cân i Gymru National Year

Template:Infobox Cân i Gymru National Year (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox ESC National Year (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Cân i Gymru National Year with Template:Infobox ESC National Year.
The Welsh template is an apparent fork of the ESC (European Song Contest) one. They should be re-merged and made suitable (and named) for generic song contests, into which any other such templates may be (re-)merged later. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:03, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Question how is this an apparent fork? They are two different contests, one is specific to Wales, the other pan-European. If there are ways to improve a template, then perhaps raising such issues at Project Eurovision talk page would be logical. I get the impression that the nom is mass-nominating quite a lot of Project Eurovision templates, which is quite disturbing behaviour. Wes Mouse |  20:05, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
The clue is in the documentation of the Welsh template, which still includes a fragment of the ESC one it was copied from. Please assume good faith; and see Misplaced Pages:Infobox consolidation for a FAQ explaining why we don't need so many infoboxes doing very similar jobs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:29, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
And remember, Pigsonthewing, one also needs to assume the assumption of good faith. I merely said I got the "impression", that was not being bad faith. Merging the two templates would cause a hyperlink issue; because the syntax within the Eurovision version has things that create a link to Eurovision pages. For example ], which allows the need to only input the country, so that it will automatically direct to articles such as Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest. We could not use that for Can i Gymru, as it would create a link to Wales in the Eurovision Song Contest, when there is no such article. The same is for the ABU Radio template which you also nominated. If we used the Eurovision version, it would not direct biennially, and would create annual links. Also it would show at the bottom on the inforbox that it is Eurovision, when we'd need to show it is ABU Radio. Wes Mouse |  20:46, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
A merger woudl not simply copy parameters from one template to another, but would address cases such as those you describe, and build in any necessary alternative parameters or switches. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:52, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox student media

Template:Infobox student media (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Only 21 transclusions)

Superfluous, variously, to {{Infobox radio station}}, {{Infobox television channel}}, {{Infobox website}}, or {{Infobox broadcasting network}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:36, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Sherlock Holmes short story

Template:Infobox Sherlock Holmes short story (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Only 57 transclusions)

Superfluous to {{Infobox short story}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:32, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox pictish stone

Template:Infobox pictish stone (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Only 20 transclusions)

Superfluous, probably to {{Infobox artifact}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:29, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Only Fools and Horses

Template:Infobox Only Fools and Horses (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Sanremo Music Festival

Template:Infobox Sanremo Music Festival (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Only 11 transclusions)

Overly specific; redundant to {{Infobox music festival}} (or otherwise {{Infobox recurring event}}). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Keep - {{Infobox music festival}} doesn't have the parameters to deal with a complex contest like San Remo. The San Remo Music Festival is not a music festival (despite its name) but is a contest that inspired the creation of Eurovision Song Contest - one could say it is an Italian Song Contest, for people of Italy only. And has been used to also select the Italian entry at Eurovision. Wes Mouse |  20:10, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Then perhaps it should be merged into the ESC template, as discussed above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:46, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Merging would not work, as I pointed out above. It would create linking issues, such as directing to an incorrect article. It is hard to try and explain, so maybe if one looked at the contest articles such as San Remo Music Festival, Eurovision Song Contest, ABU Radio Song Festival, ABU TV Song Festival, then you'd get a better understanding. Wes Mouse |  20:50, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned and unused Ghana fb templates

Template:Fb team Aduana Stars (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team All Stars F.C. (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Asante Kotoko SC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Bechem United (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Ashanti Gold (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Berekum Arsenal (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Berekum Chelsea F.C. (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Ebusua Dwarfs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Hearts of Oak (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Liberty Professionals F.C. (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Real Sportive (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Real Tamale (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Tema Youth (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb team Tudu Mighty Jets FC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

These templates are unused or ophaned. They should be deleted. MicroX (talk) 19:16, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Satellite awards

Template:Infobox Satellite awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (only 19 transclusions)

Redundant to {{Infobox film awards}} . Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:08, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Indian awards

Template:Infobox Indian awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Only 153 transclusions)

Superfluous to {{Infobox award}} (which has 3,764 transclusions). None of the parameters are specific to India. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:02, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox ABU Radio

Template:Infobox ABU Radio (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Appears to be a fork of {{Infobox Eurovision}}, to which it is redundant. ABU name suggests Australia, but this is also used for Eurovision competitions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:33, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Keep - This is used on articles such as ABU Radio Song Festival 2012. Eurovision Song Contest are annual contests, ABU Radio Song Festival are biennial. Using the Eurovision infobox caused navigational issues because of this; and also if the Eurovision version were used it caused linking issues at the bottom of the box, when click on the hyperlink. Wes Mouse |  19:57, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Then, again, perhaps all these ought to be merged, as discussed above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:47, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
We tried to use the Eurovision first, and it caused a link issue. For example at the bottom where it provides links to the previous/next contests. Eurovision is yearly, ABU Radio is biennial - using the Eurovision template on ABU Radio would create yearly links and not biennially links. Wes Mouse |  20:53, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Mosconi Cup

Template:Infobox Mosconi Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (only 20 transactions)
Template:Infobox individual snooker tournament (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (385 transclusions)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Mosconi Cup with Template:Infobox individual snooker tournament.
Though pool is not snooker, the formats are similar.There is no generic "Pool tournament" infobox. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:21, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Equity Awards

Template:Equity Awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and almost all redirects. Frietjes (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2014 (UTC)