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Many thanks for the barnstar

I'm delighted to know that my efforts are appreciated.--Runcorn 07:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Elvis stamp

Please take some time to read the fair use policy. Fair use cannot credibly claimed for copyrighted material outside the main namespace, that is why the Elvis stamp that you restored on someone's userpage must go again. Unfortunately Young Frankenstein on your userpage must goo, too. Sorry. Dr Zak 02:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

• I changed the image. --South Philly 21:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • As Dr Zak mentioned, Misplaced Pages's policy is that fair-use images may not be used on user pages; unfortunately, that includes the Frankenstein image on your user page. I took the liberty of removing it for you. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Five-pointed star and pentagram

Please supply a citation for your assertion that a five-pointed star is a pentagram. If you go to a dictionary (such as at ) you should see a pentagram pretty clearly defined as being composed of five crossing lines, which create an internal pentagon. I have put in a request for deletion for the Five-pointed star redirect, since clearly, not all 5-point stars are pentagrams. See Talk:Pentagram for more info. Fuzzypeg☻ 04:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

• star shape: a two-dimensional geometric figure in the shape of a star, with five points, especially one used as a magical or occult symbol
  • http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/pentagram.html

Quotes from the Pocket Oxford Dictionary 1978: "a 5-pointed star formed by producing sides of pentagon both ways until they meet, formerly used as a mystic symbol" and Merriam-Webster Online: "a figure of a 5-pointed star usually made with alternate points connected by a continuous line and used as a magic or occult symbol; also : a similar 6-pointed star (as a Solomon's seal)". We've already seen that Princeton University's WordNet gives "a star with 5 points; formed by 5 straight lines between the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon".

I'm at work at the moment and don't have access to the full OED, but together these seem more authoritative than Wiktionary and Encarta (it looks like the Wiktionary entry might have been based on Encarta, but I've now corrected it). Fuzzypeg☻ 06:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User pages

May I ask why you are creating a user page for user who left Misplaced Pages and requested that his user page be deleted? — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

• Ask Away. South Philly 21:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • That is not an appropriate answer. Why are you repeatedly creating a user page for a user who left Misplaced Pages and requested that his user page be deleted? Please do not recreate it. Editing another's user page in this manner, especially in the face of explicit wishes to the contrary, is not appropriate. — Knowledge Seeker দ 22:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
    • You said, "That is not an appropriate answer."I answered the question posed to me. It was appropriate. As for your second harangue ... The user that left had a lot of edits. There should be some place holder that shows people that the person is gone. Unless you can cite a wikipolicy that says what I did was wrong, I would like you to leave me alone. South Philly 00:52, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
      • As you have declared that you are a native speaker of English, I assumed you were familiar with that construction. They "May I ask...?" construction is not intended to be taken literally; it is not asking permission to ask the question. Rather, it is a more polite way of asking the question. I will gladly leave you alone if you stop editing his user page. For the relevant policy, please see Misplaced Pages:User page#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space, especially "In general it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing another's user page without their permission." Creating a user page for a user who does not have one is almost always inappropriate, as it is not an easily revertable action unless the user is an administrator and can delete the page. A glance at the deletion log will further reveal that User:Jtkiefer requested deletion of his user page, so to create a page for him when he specifically did not want one is even worse, and why I deleted your edits. I hope this makes sense; please feel free to ask me if you have any questions. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
• Your fool question was answered with a fool answer. Don't be naive. I went to the page you cited, and read the sentence that said, "In general it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing another's user page without their permission." What you fail to mention is that the whole paragraph is preferenced by a sentence that reads, "However, pages in user space still do belong to the community"

Farther on it also reads, "User pages that have been deleted can be recreated with a blank page, or a link to Misplaced Pages:Missing Wikipedians to avoid red links pointing to them.'""

The user has left wikipedia, and no one owns the page. I'm going back and placing the {{User EX-WP}} template at User talk:Jtkiefer --South Philly 01:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

• The page reads, "User pages that have been deleted can be recreated with a blank page, or a link to Misplaced Pages:Missing Wikipedians to avoid red links pointing to them.'" I'm going back and placing the {{User EX-WP}} template at User talk:Jtkiefer.--South Philly 00:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Proposed move of Misplaced Pages:Missing Wikipedians

I deleted your CfD notice; this page is not a category. If you wish to discuss a move, it should be done on Misplaced Pages talk:Missing Wikipedians. Thanks. Grandmasterka 03:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I deleted Users not currently active, which you created as a redirect to Misplaced Pages:Missing Wikipedians. I understand why you created the redirect (the category template expects a main article with the same title). However, redirects should not cross namespaces (that is, a redirect in the "main"/article namespace should not have a target in the "Misplaced Pages:" namespace). I updated the information in your cateogory. If you have any questions, please let me know. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Please stop

As I mentioned above, fair-use images are not to be used in user space. Please do not re-add the image back, or place any other fair-use images in user space. If you continue, you may be blocked. If you have questions or do not understand, please ask me rather than restoring the image. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I can assure you I will take your grievances seriously whether you express them with hostility or politeness. I am unaware that I ever expressed an opinion on the use of {{User EX-WP}}, though I prefer not to use userboxes in general; if I was wrong about its use, I apologize. Yes, I reverted your page again, for reasons I explained on your talk page, and with which I believe you agree. I was not aware my enforcement was selective; if you know of an instance where I was aware of a fair-use violation but failed to object to the user or remove the image, I'd appreciate you sharing it with me. Thank you, yes, I quite enjoy my work on Misplaced Pages, both in being able to contribute to this body of knowledge, and also do help maintain the administrative side when I can. Misplaced Pages's policy is quite clear on fair-use images. I'm sorry that my removal of the image upset you so much. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I have temporarily blocked you from editing Misplaced Pages due to your repeatedly placing fair-use images on your user page. Making a derivative of a fair-use image does not give you the rights to release it under a less restrictive license. As I mentioned before, if you have any questions about fair use and copyrights, please ask me (or another user) before placing these sorts of images on your user page. Let me know if I can help, or if any of this doesn't make sense. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC) Stop being a WP:Dick.South Philly 00:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)