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I respect your desire to improve the article. But we're all working toward that goal. I don't understand some of your edits, for example the figures in the "Directivity" column of the table in the "Overview" section. Can you please discuss your edits on the Talk page first, and give edit comments, so we are not working at cross purposes? --<font color="blue">]</font><sup>''<small>]</small>''</sup> 21:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
:]: The directivity of an actual antenna can vary from 1.76 dBi for a short dipole, to as much as 50 dBi for a large dish antenna. See ]. ] (]) 00:31, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::Thanks. Now could you discuss your proposed changes on the Talk page so everyone interested in the article can participate and we can achieve consensus? --<font color="blue">]</font><sup>''<small>]</small>''</sup> 03:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
:::]:- So we are now in full agreement that the directivity of a large dish antenna is 50 dBi, and that of a short dipole antenna is 1.76 dBi? -- ] (]) 15:26, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hello,

I appreciate the efforts you're putting into improving the Wireless energy transfer article, but I have two gripes:

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Both of these are currently making it very hard for people who have the page on their watchlist to tell what's going on!

Best regards, Oli Filth 14:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

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Transposer

Hi GLPeterson, thanks for expanding the article Transposer. However, I see that you have changed the word transposer to translator . As far as I know in professional documents the word transposer is preferred for ground station technology. Can you please check if the word translator has replaced transposer recently ? Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 04:51, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Article length at wireless power

We should probably not devote excess space in an article on historical dead ends tangential to the current state of the art. We probably don't serve the reader well with lengthy quotations from Tesla on how he thought the laws of physics worked, when these are (hem) at variance with the current understanding. The article wireless power is already far too long for its contents and needs to be a concise overview of the field, not just another place to trot out the same old tired fanboy claims (which are already lovingly and minutely detailed in the Tesla-specific articles), --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:42, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

When knowledge, facts, or solutions are sought, there are a number of techniques available from which to select.  These techniques can be ranked according to their effectiveness, from the most certain to the most uncertain.  At the top, or level one, is measurement; but even excellent measurements can be subject to small amounts of error.  Level two is cause and effect.  That's a rigorous deduction based on the laws of nature; on the conservation of mass, energy, and momentum; on Newtonian mechanics, Ohm's law, Charles's law, and all those kinds of relationships.  These techniques for solving problems are not error free, but they do provide reliable and repeatable results.  At the third level I put correlation studies.  These are statistical techniques which allow the drawing of general and reasonable conclusions, but imprecise conclusions.  An example of this is when you hear a conclusion such as 62 percent of the people who eat pistachio ice cream 20 or more times a week tend to gain weight.  The fourth level is opinion sampling.  Conclusions here can be useful, but they are often temperable and not repeatable. . . . — Neil Armstrong

Thanks for expressing your opinion.GPeterson (talk) 15:29, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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OR and WP:NOTMIRROR

I have noted at Talk:Wireless power the problems with your edits re: drawing conclusions from primary sources and/or using them, or FRINGE writers opinions on them, as statements of fact in Misplaced Pages (see WP:YESPOV). I have also noted, (and noted before at Talk:Teleforce#Proposed Deletion) your ownership of the main sources you are citing, tfcbooks.com and TESLARADIO.COM, which, with wholesale quoting and paraphrasing of these sources, is getting to the point of violating WP:NOTMIRROR. I noted your use of Wikisource for this material. May I suggest following that line of editing for this material instead? Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 02:12, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

When knowledge, facts, or solutions are sought, there are a number of techniques available from which to select.  These techniques can be ranked according to their effectiveness, from the most certain to the most uncertain.  At the top, or level one, is measurement; but even excellent measurements can be subject to small amounts of error.  Level two is cause and effect.  That's a rigorous deduction based on the laws of nature; on the conservation of mass, energy, and momentum; on Newtonian mechanics, Ohm's law, Charles's law, and all those kinds of relationships.  These techniques for solving problems are not error free, but they do provide reliable and repeatable results.  At the third level I put correlation studies.  These are statistical techniques which allow the drawing of general and reasonable conclusions, but imprecise conclusions.  An example of this is when you hear a conclusion such as 62 percent of the people who eat pistachio ice cream 20 or more times a week tend to gain weight.  The fourth level is opinion sampling.  Conclusions here can be useful, but they are often temperable and not repeatable. . . . — Neil Armstrong

Thanks for expressing your opinion. GPeterson (talk) 15:29, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

It's not getting us anywhere, just reverting each other's edits, and edit warring can get us blocked. I don't understand the rationale behind your edits. If we talk about this, maybe we can figure something out. --Chetvorno

Your concern is noted. GPeterson (talk) 13:33, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

This edit (ignoring and editing contrary to this talk) without any form of comment is disruptive editing per WP:DISRUPTSIGNS #1, #2, and #4. If you continue to follow this pattern I will have to take it to WP:ANI. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 20:22, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

And you have reverted without comment again Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 22:29, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Read.
   GPeterson (talk) 14:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

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Read.
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Read.
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Your user page

Why do you have what appears to be a copy of World Wireless System on your user page? I haven't compared it to see if it's identical, but, regardless, user pages are intended to be used in that manner.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:45, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear Sir,

Thank you for taking an interest in my case. As you may already be aware, I have contacted Misplaced Pages by e-mail on 12/7/2014 with a request for assistance in my ongoing effort to counter what I perceive as a violation of Misplaced Pages policy and to correct a fundamental error that has been introduced into the Wireless power article (see RE: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents).  I learned that no mechanism exists for the assignment of legal counsel to assist me, in light of which I proceeded forward in the best manner that I know of.  This involved making changes to the article with accompanying explanations of those changes.  This good-faith effort has resulted in the present state of affairs.

In answer to your question about my user page, I had no idea that such use is strictly forbidden.  I'll make the appropriate adjustments forthwith.

Getting back to the matter at hand, to wit, my ongoing work to improve the Wireless power article and what I perceive as a disruptive effort on the part of three Misplaced Pages Users to stifle my efforts, how do you suggest that I proceed?  I am willing to endure the psychological pain that I am presently experiencing, suffer the 48 hour block, and then resume my present interaction with these individuals on the article's Talk page, if this is the least offensive alternative to all parties involved.

Respectfully and sincerely yours,
Gary Peterson, GPeterson (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. What adjustments do you plan to make to your user page after your block expires? I can remove the article portion of your user page now if you wish.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:53, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you in advance for your assistance.  Please remove everything following

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 Done.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:04, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again for your assistance.--GPeterson (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

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Request for Assistance

Sir (Bbb23). It appears my intellectual tools are insufficient to cope with the present level of uncivil discourse that exists on Misplaced Pages, and all the more so as time passes. Are you available to review my next comment when I post it on the Wireless power article talk page after my being blocked for edit warring? The link is https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Wireless_power#Electrical_Conduction .--GPeterson (talk) 09:33, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Bbb23. Is the bulk removal of technical details from an article bearing the tag, "This article may be too technical for most readers to understand. Please help improve this article to make it understandable to non-experts, without removing the technical details. The talk page may contain suggestions." a violation of Misplaced Pages policy?--GPeterson (talk) 11:38, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Sir (Bbb23). I have spent a sleepless night worrying, Looking forward to your guidance. Respectfully, Gary Peterson, GPeterson (talk) 14:38, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate your seeking guidance, but I'm not altogether clear what you're asking. What's most important at this point is that you use the article Talk page to discuss any changes you wish to make and that you obtain a clear consensus from other editors for your proposed changes. Otherwise, if you change the article in any way that restores your preferred version or even part of it, it will be seen as a resumption of edit warring and may result in a longer block. Does that answer your question? Finally, don't lose sleep over this. It's not worth it. If it's too upsetting to you to edit here - and I acknowledge that editing at Misplaced Pages can be hard for many people until they become experienced - then don't edit here. I don't mean that "to get rid of you". I mean it sincerely. Your health and your real life are much more important than Misplaced Pages. Oh, by the way, I can't always respond quickly as I, too, have a real life. --Bbb23 (talk) 02:36, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for you prompt response. I'm interested in learning if the bulk removal of technical details from an article bearing the tag, "This article may be too technical for most readers to understand. Please help improve this article to make it understandable to non-experts, without removing the technical details. The talk page may contain suggestions" might be judged to be an infringement of Misplaced Pages policy. As for my poor behavior, I have learned my lesson and will be operating in a much different manner from now on.--GPeterson (talk) 03:18, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I would say that a significant removal of material from the article based on the tag is a bad idea at this point. However, you may propose such a removal on the Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 06:00, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, this is valuable information.--GPeterson (talk) 17:38, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Changes to Wireless power or Wireless energy transmission

Bbb23. Please note that User:Roches and User:Chetvorno have made additional changes to the Wireless power or Wireless energy transmission article during the period starting 13 December 2014 up to the present. While the recent modifications have some merit, previous issues of contention are still to be addressed. I too have a life other than Misplaced Pages so further pursuit of these matters by myself may not be immediate.--GPeterson (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

A Rookie Mistake

Bbb23. Re: Reverted edits by GLPeterson (talk) to last version by Bbb23 - not on your user page (again)).  I need to work on a Draft of proposed revisions to the above article and used my user page by mistake. Where do I find the instructions for Draft creation?--GPeterson (talk) 15:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Bbb23. Found it! (Misplaced Pages:User pages)
Good, but I'm confused by what you're doing. First, normally you would create a draft as a subpage of your user page, not as a subpage of your talk page. You've done both.
The Talk page associated with /Draft came into existence when I placed a first entry on the /Draft page's Talk page.
Second, generally a draft is of a new article, not of an existing article. Are you trying to create "your version" of the existing article? I don't have the time to compare the two, so it's easier just to ask you. Anyway, please explain a bit more what you're doing.
The Draft page is a duplicate of the draft text, plus subsequent changes, that was posted as a replacement of the actual article without full consensus on 16 December 2014. I alerted you of this action in my previous message. The existing illegitimate "article" contains errors and omissions that I am preparing to address at this time, hence the two new user pages.
Also, I can delete subpages that you don't need, or you can request the deletions yourself by adding {{db-U1}} at the top of the page, in which case any administrator can do it.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:46, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip.--GPeterson (talk) 18:21, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Recent Wireless power edits

I respect your desire to improve the article. But we're all working toward that goal. I don't understand some of your edits, for example the figures in the "Directivity" column of the table in the "Overview" section. Can you please discuss your edits on the Talk page first, and give edit comments, so we are not working at cross purposes? --Chetvorno 21:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Chetvorno: The directivity of an actual antenna can vary from 1.76 dBi for a short dipole, to as much as 50 dBi for a large dish antenna. See Directivity. GPeterson (talk) 00:31, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Now could you discuss your proposed changes on the Talk page so everyone interested in the article can participate and we can achieve consensus? --Chetvorno 03:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
User talk:Chetvorno:- So we are now in full agreement that the directivity of a large dish antenna is 50 dBi, and that of a short dipole antenna is 1.76 dBi? -- GPeterson (talk) 15:26, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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