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| ::{{yo|Montanabw|CFynn}}, I'm not sure which way to jump but will we actually GET people if we AfD? What we need are independent voices to scourge that page of the foolishness. I do suspect meatpuppetry and forced consensus; they tried removing tags and hiding it behind changes until I called it out. I ''do not understand'' why the false-cited material remains. I have half a mind to remove '''every''' problem citation from that page but it'll just get edit-warred back. AND they're trying to argue me into a corner on issues - the whole "our outside sources are passing footnotes" is ridiculous. ] ] 17:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | ::{{yo|Montanabw|CFynn}}, I'm not sure which way to jump but will we actually GET people if we AfD? What we need are independent voices to scourge that page of the foolishness. I do suspect meatpuppetry and forced consensus; they tried removing tags and hiding it behind changes until I called it out. I ''do not understand'' why the false-cited material remains. I have half a mind to remove '''every''' problem citation from that page but it'll just get edit-warred back. AND they're trying to argue me into a corner on issues - the whole "our outside sources are passing footnotes" is ridiculous. ] ] 17:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
| :::Go ahead and remove every problematic thing. The article is in my watchlist, so I am keeping an eye on it.]<sup>]</sup> 20:26, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | :::Go ahead and remove every problematic thing. The article is in my watchlist, so I am keeping an eye on it.]<sup>]</sup> 20:26, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
| :::::Then pick your favorite drama board and start building a case. But first, skim the ArbCom decision on Scientology - in some of these cases, people on both sides get blocked or banned in an attempt to appear "fair." But if you can show sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry, that's usually low-hanging fruit. AfD can have a lot of people, or just a few, sort of depends on the day... ]<sup>]</sup> 19:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Looked at the stuff you pinged me about. Offered some preliminary comments. Question: are you up for the Sh--storm if I were to AfD the article? Montanabw 19:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
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Aro gTér tag team?
I added my comments on Roaring Silence as a source to the Aro gTér talk page. Also some comments at the end of the Notability section of that page regarding the editing history of some of the recent contributors. It looks to me like these people may be a sort of tag team or trying to give the appearance of a consensus for Arthur chos edits. What do you think? (also pinging @Montanabw and VictoriaGrayson:) Chris Fynn (talk) 19:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'd report them for meatpuppet or sockpuppeting if you have the time for the drama board nonsense. It's definitely what's going on. OTOH, I'm thinking it might be time to file an AfD... so which drama shall we choose? Montanabw 19:23, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Montanabw and CFynn:, I'm not sure which way to jump but will we actually GET people if we AfD? What we need are independent voices to scourge that page of the foolishness. I do suspect meatpuppetry and forced consensus; they tried removing tags and hiding it behind changes until I called it out. I do not understand why the false-cited material remains. I have half a mind to remove every problem citation from that page but it'll just get edit-warred back. AND they're trying to argue me into a corner on issues - the whole "our outside sources are passing footnotes" is ridiculous. Ogress smash! 17:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- Go ahead and remove every problematic thing. The article is in my watchlist, so I am keeping an eye on it.VictoriaGrayson 20:26, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Montanabw and CFynn:, I'm not sure which way to jump but will we actually GET people if we AfD? What we need are independent voices to scourge that page of the foolishness. I do suspect meatpuppetry and forced consensus; they tried removing tags and hiding it behind changes until I called it out. I do not understand why the false-cited material remains. I have half a mind to remove every problem citation from that page but it'll just get edit-warred back. AND they're trying to argue me into a corner on issues - the whole "our outside sources are passing footnotes" is ridiculous. Ogress smash! 17:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- Then pick your favorite drama board and start building a case. But first, skim the ArbCom decision on Scientology - in some of these cases, people on both sides get blocked or banned in an attempt to appear "fair." But if you can show sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry, that's usually low-hanging fruit. AfD can have a lot of people, or just a few, sort of depends on the day... Montanabw 19:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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