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ANI

It seems defending myself roundly at the AN/I has done me no favours. The universal dislike is palpable! I edited peaceably from February when I started in Misplaced Pages until the beginning of December when I became more outspoken on editing points, and now this! You said you were going to give me an opinion on one of the charges. The AN/I is being dragooned to a conclusion by Legacpac, so I wondered if I could have this before it ended.

PS Why are so many uninvolved admins/editors using IP identities? P-123 (talk) 00:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

PBS has expressed his opinion, as have many other editors. I don't know who the IPs are but they may be involved or uninvolved editors and admins (but I'm not using an IP). Please start reading what others are saying to you and drop the stick because you are beating a dead horse. Legacypac (talk) 00:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

You said this at the AN/I:

"Having spent time going through ... list of accusations, there is only one that I think is substantial enough on its own to warrant concern even when assuming good faith, and I will discuss that directly with user:P-123 on the talk page of P-123. -- PBS (talk) 16:27, 1 January 2015 (UTC)"

I would be grateful if you could let me know which one this was and why. P-123 (talk) 08:55, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

• P-123, you continue your forum shopping by, once again, raising WP:ANI issues here after the thread has been closed. You need to read WP:WIN and just go about editing.194.169.217.168 (talk) 09:27, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protection for Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

I can probably find out from another source but I was wondering how it could be considered to put a level of semi-protection on Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant so that unregistered users would not be able to directly contribute. I appreciate that this may raise issues with regard to users that are not autoconfirmed, but I would personally consider the benefits of protection to out weigh potential problems.

Thanks and Happy new year. I hope to personally give you more peace. GregKaye 11:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

This idea may have some merit, but we are having issues across related minor articles too with IPs. Lots of terrorist wannabees on Misplaced Pages these days. Legacypac (talk) 11:25, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Opps - I read the request as being for the article - the talk page does not need protection. Sorry about that. Legacypac (talk) 20:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Archiving time on Talk:Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War

Hi, PBS, I was hoping for your advice of what to do here, both for future reference and to reduce the size of the talkpage in question. The page Talk:Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War is 326,556 bytes long with 73 sections and an archive time of 2 weeks. I feel that this is too much content, so I posted Talk:Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Sigmabot_archive_time, but this got no reply after 2 days, which on this talkpage seems to be a sign I'm not going to get another post. Should I try to change the time having never done so before and without consensus? Should I wait for you or another admin to get involved or ask one to help? Should I drop it altogether. Thanks. John Smith the Gamer (talk) 23:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for solving the archiving problem for the Syrian detailed map talk page. I guess if editing archive times comes under general sanctions, then so too must setting it up. The corresponding Iraqi map's talk page Module talk:Iraqi insurgency detailed map#Status of Alqosh could probably due with having archiving set up having 105 sections, about half of which are at least 4 months old, though the talk page is only 147,350 bytes long. John Smith the Gamer (talk) 05:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

An apparent violation of a PBAN on Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map by another editor

Pototo1 was given a PBAN on Module:Syrian Civil War detailed map, but then proceeded to make two edits that violated it. Callanecc is busy in real life, so I was hoping an uninvolved administrator could help so we can avoid the whole messy and time consuming ANI process, especially as this is all I have to say. Can you help, PBS? John Smith the Gamer (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Move Moratorium

The ISIL Move Moratorium expires in less than 48 hours. I'd like to see it extended since the world opinion has gone even stronger against legitimizing the group by the "Islamic State" name. What is the correct procedure to move forward? Legacypac (talk) 19:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages isn't about legitimizing or de-legitimizing a viewpoint, idea, group, or person. We're here to encylcopedia build, not fight the battle of hearts and minds in the war on terror (and yes, I acknowledge you believe I'm "Anti-American" for making this observation (). DOCUMENT★ERROR 23:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

More rearranging of comments

I'm bringing this to your attention as you've been party to the issue before. Legacypac has been cautioned innumerable times about rearranging comments. He's at it again in this thread. While this doesn't, obviously, rise to the same level of severity as his blanking and moving of pages or personal attacks, it is still a real chore to constantly monitor each of his many ANIs to make sure one's own comments aren't being moved around to change their meaning. I apologize for bringing this directly to you but it seemed preferable to cluttering up his latest ANI with even more confusingly tangential issues. WP falls apart pretty quickly once the stability of one's own edits is no longer viable. A lot of us are at our wit's end. DOCUMENT★ERROR 22:44, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I'd also like to note, in response to my leaving the above note on your Talk page, LP has - as per MO - gone into "attack" mode and has immediately started dropping claims around the Wiki that I'm engaging in "outrageous personal attacks" against him (but, as also per MO, not informing me of any of these accusations he's spreading). As you know, immediately spreading rumors about other editors is his pattern response when the question of his combative interaction style is broached.

I have voluntarily avoided any article in which LP is a regular for months (IOW, against my better judgment, I let him chase me off) due to this "take no prisoners" style of editing on all ISIL related topics, and his unwillingness to work in a methodical manner (you, Kkj11210 and others have previously asked him not to blank or move pages during the middle of a RfC, and he did it again just this week ). However, in reviewing his edit history it appears this has not spared Skookum1, GregKaye, Greyshark09, Corriebertus, and numerous others from this toxicity. DOCUMENT★ERROR 23:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I recently raised issue with regard to a recent good faith use of archive top by Legacypac on my talk page but this was reverted at early opportunity. GregKaye 23:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, C&P wrong editor - my bad. DOCUMENT★ERROR 23:54, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Apparently as "pay back" for "telling" that he had been rearranging the comments of other editors again, LP has now dragged me to ANI for the fourth time. I should have learned my lesson last time, bit my lip, and just let him rearrange and edit others comments however he sees fit. DOCUMENT★ERROR 09:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Yellow Box edit

Just a quick question - did I insert my comment into the middle of LPs? According to this dif he had a 5 ":::::" comment ending in the phrase "thank-you very much" at 19:53 followed by his sig. My comment was specifically in response to that comment and so was indented with 6 "::::::" There was an entirely separate comment he made (separate as it had 0 colons and a unique sig at 17:43) immediately after his 5 colon comment. . Note the threading here: DOCUMENT★ERROR 02:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

ISIL rename request

Hello PBS, I just came across this . Does this mean it is possible to make a request for move? I would like to put such a request on the 23rd January so your advise would be appreciated. Mbcap (talk) 23:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello again, could you please advise. I have already asked legacypac's permission for me to discuss him here. I believe I think with good reason as seen here), that legacypac has a conflict of interest that seems to be impacting his work on the ISIL page. With the new move request I think this issue has become even more important.I kindly requested that he withdraw himself from the discussion because he seems to have a real demonstrable conflict of interest. In the diff he says: