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::I mean, the difference is in when you click on the picture. You can notice a great deal more of details on the google file. Brushwork, cracks in the surface and such. ] (]) 01:13, 15 January 2015 (UTC) ::I mean, the difference is in when you click on the picture. You can notice a great deal more of details on the google file. Brushwork, cracks in the surface and such. ] (]) 01:13, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
::*And the colour looks like a man who has an ], loooks rather OK. He looks tanned. ] (]) 01:22, 15 January 2015 (UTC) ::*And the colour looks like a man who has an ], loooks rather OK. He looks tanned. ] (]) 01:22, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:::He was white, you ignorant racist. Read the article before coming here with your disgusting stereotypes on latins. --] (]) 01:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


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Is there any reason not to have a link to http://www.cpdl.org/index.php/Peter_IV_of_Portugal ? I see it lasted 4 minutes when I added it last month. Cpupton (talk) 13:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't add anything to the biography of Pedro I. The "external links" section has a purpose. It's not a mere collection of random links loosely related to the subject. --Lecen (talk) 13:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
We generally do not link to other wikis, per Misplaced Pages:External links#Links normally to be avoided #12. DrKiernan (talk) 14:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Exhumation

Last year's exhumation of Pedro and his two wives should be mentioned.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 08:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Why? --Lecen (talk) 11:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Why not? It's pretty notable and it's a recent news on him. It's as notable as the exhumation of Richard III which happen around the same time. It adds another point to his life. His cause of death, his crushed rib cage which may have precipated his death, the fact he was buried as a Portuguese soldier, and his actual appearance which agrees portrait and royal flattery which by itself is not always the best. Also that his second wife was mummified and that his first wife had no broken bones disproving any rumors that he had kick her during a fight causing her death.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 16:30, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
1) It isn't news that he was buried dressed as a Portuguese general. All biographies of Pedro I mention that. He requested to be buried as a Portuguese general, and to the people be allowed to take part in the funereal procession. I have no idea why newspapers were "surprised" by that. He was no longer a Brazilian Emperor nor a Portuguese king, but merely a Portuguese general fighting on behalf of Maria II.
2) Actual appearance? The only thing I read about it was that he was arounf 1.66 and 1.73m tall, which placed him as above average height (as can be seen on this Misplaced Pages article), but shorter to modern standards, as anyone back then.
3) A mummified Amélia should be mentioned in her own article.
I added a recent article telling that Maria Leopoldina died of natural causes. --Lecen (talk) 17:49, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Books and writing can only tell someone so much. An exhumation gives an archaeological point of view on the subject. I was thinking the exhumation deserves more coverage in line with Timur#Exhumation. I don't think you believe it necessary so this message to any future editors who may want to add such a section.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 20:16, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
The exhumation was carried on by request of a student for her master's study. I hope to see it published so that we may use it here. I dislike using websites, even more when we are talking about news websites, because they usually give poor coverage. Which is the case of Pedro I's exhumation. --Lecen (talk) 20:28, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Anybody else want to add the information about his exhumation?--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 07:57, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Has it been published in a journal yet? • Astynax 08:13, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Not sure though generally on Misplaced Pages that isn't needed and I don't see why news article aren't reliable sources. I am pretty sure information on Richard III's exhumation was probably added to Misplaced Pages with use of news sources before academic journals were published on the discovery. Since Lecen has been inactive for a while I thought another editors might be interested in adding information on the exhumation of Pedro and his wives in their respective articles.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 10:21, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Image width

The image width in the infobox was set to 200px in November 2011, but this was before the main image was updated recently. I have removed the constraint in favor of the default, but I don't mind if the old image width is retained. DrKiernan (talk) 18:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

What is the default image width? --Lecen (talk) 18:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
220px. DrKiernan (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
In addition, I believe it relies on what each user sets in their Preferences and/or skin. If you haven't changed it there or don't login, the default is used. With all the small and huge screens being used today, it probably makes more sense today not to specify a size, other than for icon-sized images or for thumbnails. • Astynax 18:25, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

File change.

This is a higher resolution file, that I added. The current is 1,714 × 2,135 pixels - the new is 3,213 × 4,001 pixels, exactly the same file, but is from the Google art project and much more detailed, and of superior quality. Hafspajen (talk) 00:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

If the picture is to be nominated for featured picture, it is necessary to be the best quality as possible. Hafspajen (talk) 00:59, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Great for you. But the color makes no sense. --Lecen (talk) 01:02, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
  • We want to nominate the picture as a Featured picture candidate. If you keep reverting it it will not going to work. The Google file is coming scanned directly from the museum, so it is 99% of the cases is the the best quality file and closest to how the picture actually looks like. Have you seen the picture personally at the museum yourself? Hafspajen (talk) 01:02, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I mean, the difference is in when you click on the picture. You can notice a great deal more of details on the google file. Brushwork, cracks in the surface and such. Hafspajen (talk) 01:13, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
He was white, you ignorant racist. Read the article before coming here with your disgusting stereotypes on latins. --Lecen (talk) 01:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Lead image

If we're going to use historic artworks to show him, we need to use as accurate as possible copies of those artworks, as they, in themselves, become part of the story of the person. File:Unidentfied artist - Portrait of Dom Pedro, Duke of Bragança - Google Art Project.jpg is by the Google Art Project, who are noted for taking great care in getting colour balances accurate. File:Anônimo - D. Pedro, Duque de Bragança.JPG is from a site I've never heard of, so it doesn't have that reputation.

Now, the thing is, this painting is not a completely naturalistic interpretation, and no adjustment will make it so. 1835... hmm. That'll be the early romantic era... so, yeah, bright, vivid oversaturated colours were one of the artistic choices being played with at the time. So I'd say there's no reason to doubt the Google Art Project's colours.

We are, in the end, an encyclopedia. Do I like the artwork? Eh... it's alright. Rather over-vivid for my tastes. But tastes don't matter: we can't mislead he viewer by changing it to suit our tastes, without reason to think it's wrong. Adam Cuerden 01:15, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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