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Hi Stalwart, happy New Year! In the past you'd helped my (former) colleague Chris with some updates to the Accenture Misplaced Pages article and I see that you've kept an eye on the page since. Would you be able to take a look at a request that I have for the article? There are a few small updates I'd like to suggest and for which I've provided sources, and I'm also suggesting that a couple of sections be removed. Do you think you might have a little time to take a look? Thanks in advance, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 16:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Brujería

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What is your problem? Why do you insist on being uncooperative? Evidently, you didn't even read Xenomorph erotica's post! So who exactly are you to decide what edits are going to be approved? Clearly you are showing signs of WP:OWNER. Omo Obatalá 14:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC) Omo, you edit-warred to remove maintenance tags from an article based on a talk page thread started by an editor with a handful of edits that received no response, claiming some sort of consensus. Your talk page is a laundry list of warnings for edit-warring, of which mine is simply the latest. Childishly and blindly edit-warring to section-blank because you disagree with a single line is just silly. St★lwart 14:33, 13 January 2015 (UTC) My so-called edit-warring consists of one misunderstanding with another user who did not pay attention to what my constructive edits were and another of a general misunderstanding and lack of familiarization of Misplaced Pages policy with a fellow African-American. You labeling my talk page as a "laundry list of warnings" is highly concerning. You are blatantly reverting my constructive edits; I will not touch the article until an Admin is contacted. You clearly have an agenda and an anti-witchcraft POV (amongst others I'm sure) on the subject which violates WP:NPOV. You also warned me of WP:3RR, however it was you who started the edit-war. I would like to peacefully resolve the issues, but I doubt you are willing to cooperate. Omo Obatalá 14:43, 13 January 2015 (UTC) LOL, I'm one of the few active members of WikiProject Occult. If anything, I might edit occasionally with a pro-witchcraft bias and I have actively sought to ensure related topic-areas are covered in detail. My only edits to that article have been to add information. Your edits aren't "constructive" at all and your first edits were to remove maintenance tags, remove citation-needed tags and to section-blank without proper edit-summaries. Of course your edits were reverted. I'm surprised I got there first! Please feel free to contact admins (who don't decide article content) and see what they think or your edit-warring to blank sections of articles without consensus. St★lwart 14:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC) As to "laundry list", this thread is enlightening. Almost a mirror of the situation here. From a few days ago. And the common denominator? That would be you. St★lwart 14:56, 13 January 2015 (UTC) You know what, I'm just going to ignore that article because you are clearly uncooperative. As for the previous thread, of course as usual you didn't even look into the situation, Al Jazeera was being used as a source which violates WP:RS. Omo Obatalá 15:00, 13 January 2015 (UTC) You're right, I won't cooperate with edit-warring trolls. The "situation" is irrelevant. The "source" is irrelevant. The issue is your attitude and your actions. You did there exactly what you did at Brujería and you were called out for it. Being WP:BOLD is a good thing, but being bold doesn't mean you then get to edit-war when someone objects. Being bold also doesn't mean ignoring policy and guidelines. Maybe you don't understand WP:BRD, maybe you're trolling to get a response out of people, maybe you just don't have the maturity to recognise fault? Who knows? Who cares? Either way, you won't last long around here if you keep doing what you're doing. St★lwart 15:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

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What is your problem? Why do you insist on being uncooperative? Evidently, you didn't even read Xenomorph erotica's post! So who exactly are you to decide what edits are going to be approved? Clearly you are showing signs of WP:OWNER. Omo Obatalá 14:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Omo, you edit-warred to remove maintenance tags from an article based on a talk page thread started by an editor with a handful of edits that received no response, claiming some sort of consensus. Your talk page is a laundry list of warnings for edit-warring, of which mine is simply the latest. Childishly and blindly edit-warring to section-blank because you disagree with a single line is just silly. St★lwart 14:33, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

My so-called edit-warring consists of one misunderstanding with another user who did not pay attention to what my constructive edits were and another of a general misunderstanding and lack of familiarization of Misplaced Pages policy with a fellow African-American. You labeling my talk page as a "laundry list of warnings" is highly concerning. You are blatantly reverting my constructive edits; I will not touch the article until an Admin is contacted. You clearly have an agenda and an anti-witchcraft POV (amongst others I'm sure) on the subject which violates WP:NPOV. You also warned me of WP:3RR, however it was you who started the edit-war. I would like to peacefully resolve the issues, but I doubt you are willing to cooperate. Omo Obatalá 14:43, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

LOL, I'm one of the few active members of WikiProject Occult. If anything, I might edit occasionally with a pro-witchcraft bias and I have actively sought to ensure related topic-areas are covered in detail. My only edits to that article have been to add information. Your edits aren't "constructive" at all and your first edits were to remove maintenance tags, remove citation-needed tags and to section-blank without proper edit-summaries. Of course your edits were reverted. I'm surprised I got there first! Please feel free to contact admins (who don't decide article content) and see what they think or your edit-warring to blank sections of articles without consensus. St★lwart 14:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

As to "laundry list", this thread is enlightening. Almost a mirror of the situation here. From a few days ago. And the common denominator? That would be you. St★lwart 14:56, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

You know what, I'm just going to ignore that article because you are clearly uncooperative. As for the previous thread, of course as usual you didn't even look into the situation, Al Jazeera was being used as a source which violates WP:RS. Omo Obatalá 15:00, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

You're right, I won't cooperate with edit-warring trolls. The "situation" is irrelevant. The "source" is irrelevant. The issue is your attitude and your actions. You did there exactly what you did at Brujería and you were called out for it. Being WP:BOLD is a good thing, but being bold doesn't mean you then get to edit-war when someone objects. Being bold also doesn't mean ignoring policy and guidelines. Maybe you don't understand WP:BRD, maybe you're trolling to get a response out of people, maybe you just don't have the maturity to recognise fault? Who knows? Who cares? Either way, you won't last long around here if you keep doing what you're doing. St★lwart 15:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm not a "troll". Yes, I'm bold and even arrogant at times, that's just my nature, I can't suppress it. I try not to let it get out, but sometimes it obviously does. I want to apologize for my behavior. I took a breather and cleared my mind. I don't want to you to look at me as a vandal or troll or whatever. I hope you can forgive me and not look at me as part of the unhelpful Wikipedians. I registered so I could contribute to Misplaced Pages, and aside from these 3 bumps in the road, I've done a good job so far, especially for an editor less than three months. So, with that said, I'll try my hardest from now on to think before doing/editing. Omo Obatalá 15:21, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I can accept that your your actions might not have matched your intent. The "breather" is a welcome one, as is the apology. I'm happy for you to continue editing boldly; its the stuff that comes after that where you need to be careful. And I'm happy to work with you to fix that article and others. I'd strive for better than a major bump or edit-war once a month (new, old, or otherwise) - I'm sure you don't need the drama and each of those could have been avoided. Remember, its just Misplaced Pages. Look forward to seeing your good work elsewhere. St★lwart 22:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for accepting my apology and understanding. I will work hard on improving my behavior, and even take a few minutes before confronting another editor if I find myself in a similar situation where I disagree (but starting a discussion on the talk page will be my first option). Thanks again. Omo Obatalá 12:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Stalwart, thanks for sticking up for me here, although I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears. I'm almost positive socking is going on, but for now I'm not going to do anything about it. Hopefully, pending changes will be enacted if the article is kept which would solve the problem, apart from massive amounts of drivel being continuously added to the talk page. By the way, despite my masculine-sounding user name, I'm a "she" . Best, "The Boos" aka Voceditenore (talk) 09:13, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

My apologies ma'am. There's no chance it will be deleted (methinks) so its just a matter of management beyond that. Keep up the great work! St★lwart 09:55, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Louisiana articles

It's always nice to work with civil and flexible editors. I don't want to come off as a hardcore deletionist, but I also feel strongly about Misplaced Pages's notability yardstick not going too low. User:Billy Hathorn is a great writer and very competent with referencing and with wiki's manual of style. The problem is, failed political candidates and small/medium town mayors rarely meet Misplaced Pages's established notability guidelines. I posted a friendly note to Billy's talk page but haven't heard back from him. I can't blame him if he's not a fan of mine. Given your similar interests in LA and politics, you're input in this topic is appreciated. Cheers, OhNoitsJamie 04:18, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jamie, I don't think a few (justified) AFDs will result in people painting you as a deletionist. Agree, they are high-quality articles, but they are high-quality articles about subjects of questionable notability (by Misplaced Pages standards). Its not so much that I have an interest in Louisianan politics; I spend lots of time at AFD and there are a few of them up there at the moment. The nominations are well-formed and well-explained so contribution to them is more straight-forward. Some I agree with and others I disagree with, but I know I'll get civilised debate from you rather than aggression or bad-faith so I'll continue to throw my hat in the ring. Your approach to Billy was the right way to go, I think. I, too, am disheartened to see someone waste their time working so hard on articles about non-notable or marginally notable people. St★lwart 06:26, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Ohnoitsjamie asked me to comment on this thread, so: I agree that many of Billy's articles are on subjects of highly local significance, and I also agree that current consensus at Misplaced Pages finds many subjects like those to be undeserving of articles. But these two articles on GOP gubernatorial candidates stood out to me as potential exceptions, worth the effort to preserve: they strike me as being reasonably well sourced pieces that provide information about individuals who are relevant to the development of the two party system in Louisiana--a topic that's of continuing importance in understanding Louisiana and Southern political history. During the decades of Democratic hegemony (and especially under the Longs) one could reasonably ask why anyone would bother running for office as a Republican, especially if you weren't one of those "post office Republicans" who were just in it for patronage from the national party. I thought these were worth trying to salvage, because of their potential value to anyone else interested in the same subject matter. Best,--Arxiloxos (talk) 18:37, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. There are probably some in that category and a couple that aren't and that particular one is obviously slightly different. Either way, AFD means they all get proper consideration and discussion (as opposed to a PROD or something) so I'm glad they're there. St★lwart 21:05, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate both of your input and insights on the significance of a few of these candidates. After all, Misplaced Pages doesn't kill trees. Cheers, OhNoitsJamie 01:06, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Do you have the time to start the investigation procedure? If not, I could, though I've never done it before. Omo Obatalá 21:55, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Not really worth it. He's stopped editing - it's just a passing shot. There's no point unless he starts to do it on pages that actually matter. My talk page doesn't. Thanks for reverting it, though. St★lwart 23:19, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Alright, fair enough. No problem. Omo Obatalá 01:09, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination of Ted Longshaw

Hi, the maximum allowed length of a DYK hook is 200 characters, but the one you supplied is 442. It will have to be edited or replaced with a shorter hook. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:36, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Hey Mandarax, that's not my DYK - I just added a comment. That's Donnie Park's DYK. You might want to leave him a note. Cheers, St★lwart 02:40, 19 January 2015 (UTC)