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Theres not proof that she's actually Iranian. Her name sounds mi-eastern, but she could easily be arabic or Indian since lotta those pole have Persian/Iranian names in origin, even Afghan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.46.224 (talk) 18:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

She's Iranian, it's on her personal website: ] Jesuschristonacamel (talk) 09:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Reverted edits

I have reinstated the edit that was reverted by User:Dismas because no adequate explanation was given. Reeling off a string of WPs is not sufficient. See Misplaced Pages:Reverting. In the wikipedia spirit of collaborative co-operation between editors, I invite User:Dismas to discuss any specific concerns they may have with the edit I made to the article. Graemp (talk) 07:29, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Obvious failure to comply with WP:BLP requires no discussion, and policy calls for immediate removal. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 13:18, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Please explain which parts of the edit you believe don't comply with WP:BLP and why. Graemp (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Short on time right now but the birth name is a big reason for the BLP concerns. Dismas| 15:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Dismas for explaining your concern. Her original birthname was not properly sourced. The name 'Nasrin Alavi' can be properly sourced but not as a birthname. I would be happy to move 'Nasrin Alavi' from 'Info Box Born' to 'Info Box Other names', which should satisfy any BLP concerns. Graemp (talk) 15:29, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

I just trimmed this thing down. There is no proof that the linked website is hers (there have been countless instances of companies publishing "official" websites without the actors' consent), so it's not a reliable source. IMDb is not a reliable source for something like her birth name. Saying when she did something or when she was active or retired based on scene listings is original research. I despair at having to rely on the other sources but I guess that's what there is for these types of articles. I have no problem with any of that material being added back, as long as we observe WP:BLPSOURCES and everything else. §FreeRangeFrog 18:34, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Well that is some trim - your edits represent a substantial cut in the article. To deal with you points in turn;

Linked website: I agree with you that there is no proof that the website is hers, if anyone particularly wants to delete this, they can do so as far as I am concerned. It should be noted that there was nothing in the article pre-User:FreeRangeFrog edits that exclusively quoted this source. Therefore its reliability as a source is irrelevant. However, it does confirm much of the information elsewhere in the article.

IMDb: This source was only used once in the article as an additional source for a name by which she was known. It is not stated in the article that this was her birthname. The other source used is Time Out: http://www.timeoutdubai.com/gallery/12863-360%C2%B0?image=10#.VNJ60i7lyVchttp://www.timeoutdubai.com/gallery/12863-360%C2%B0?image=10#.VNJ60i7lyVc Removing one of her aliases when it had two sources was odd and the stated birthname objection to IMDb irrelevant.

User:FreeRangeFrog edit 17:59, 4 February 2015‎ deleted "In 2005 at age 20, under the name of Nasrin, she started glamour modelling in the United Kingdom as a brunette, and performing in solo girl scenes." with the explanation that the sentence was "not supported by given source" I was the editor who wrote this and sourced it. On seeing this edit, I took the trouble to check the source to see if I had made a mistake. When I found I hadn't I reverted the edit at 18:05, 4 February 2015 stating that the sentence was "supported by given source". At 18:06, 4 February 2015‎ , about one minute later User:FreeRangeFrog had undone my revert stating "No it's not, please do not revert me again." Here is the source http://beautifulbritishbabes.co.uk/fcw/fc-full.php?ref=5018 which ought to end discussion on that point with that sentence restored.

Retirement: User:FreeRangeFrog deleted "Carmel Moore continued to work in the adult industry on both sides of the Atlantic until 2011 when she announced her retirement from the business." on the grounds that the info was "based on a listing". Her announced retirement was sourced not from a list but from an interview which is now unfortunately a dead link. However, its substance is confirmed by the two references earlier in the sentence. I am not too bothered about this 'dead' reference being removed.

There is nothing wrong with a biographical article that pieces together elements of someone's life from established and reliable sources of their work, particularly when that information is properly referenced as it was here. This does not constitute WP:OR.

In the light of the User:FreeRangeFrog edits I have reviewed the article before "triming" and have concluded that some changes User:FreeRangeFrog made were justified and have incorporated them into a new edit. Graemp (talk) 22:58, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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