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Im sorry that things got so heated over at the SPI case, but in my opinion I feel RO is right about what she says when it comes to the ] article. You are a great editor Victoria but given all that has happened I would just wait a week or so for things to cool down. Remember the SPI case you launched almost caused an innocent editor to quit Misplaced Pages and it took the efforts of editors to get her to stay. - ] (]) 18:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC) | Im sorry that things got so heated over at the SPI case, but in my opinion I feel RO is right about what she says when it comes to the ] article. You are a great editor Victoria but given all that has happened I would just wait a week or so for things to cool down. Remember the SPI case you launched almost caused an innocent editor to quit Misplaced Pages and it took the efforts of editors to get her to stay. - ] (]) 18:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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Victoria, I appreciate you pinging me on the above situation, and I want you to know that I happen to agree with your position that there is a ] here, so feel free to give me a heads up any time you think you have another related problem. I also want to note that I find Dennis Brown to be a respected user and when he popped out of retirement to comment that he's seeing what you see, that is worth noting and says good things about you and your credibility. I guess for now we focus on behavior and take drama to ANI. But a pat on the back to you for having the courage to raise this issue. If it wasn't ILT, it's a twin with a shockingly similar behavioral profile. In either case, don't go into a sock drawer alone. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC) |
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Wot? Did I miss something? Read a small bit and know John is sound so, ummm whats up? Blocked my ar*** - its not just Manc lads that can swear, believe you me. I know the "l" word. Seriously. Ceoil (talk) 03:10, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Did you miss something? Dunno, maybe. It's not to do with John. It's to do with burnout mostly. I've just had enough. It happens. Victoria (tk) 04:31, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- To be honest, I just want out. Right this moment I don't ever want to go through another FAC, I'm tired of writing articles and I'm tired of the sniping here and apparently I don't have the self-discipline to take myself away in a mature manner. Victoria (tk) 04:34, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Fine, but is getting blocked the solution. I do get it though. Its ok and frankly, healthy, to feel disaffected. here is something nice. Remembering you tested 280% athiest, that time, long go. Ceoil (talk) 04:42, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it was 280% existentialist and tbh working on the Hemingway page (life = futility) has depressed me to no end, especially during this long and cold winter. Anyway, feeling much less gloomy today and I'll repair. Victoria (tk) 14:19, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- P.s, Thank you for putting my user page back to an earlier version. I'd forgotten about that version; it's nice. Victoria (tk) 14:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- And well earned. 280% existentialist? Thats 6% more existentialist that I. I thought I was the only 280% existentialist in the village. Hrmp. Never talking to you again. Ceoil (talk) 01:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Bty, it'll cost you to know what the "I" word is; all I can say is its unknown to god-fearing folks; common in Cork. Ceoil (talk) 02:14, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hrmp, indeed. I'll do what I'm good at - research the word. Not paying, have no coin. Existentialism? It's mid-afternoon, blazing sun, and the temperature is hovering at a balmy 8 °F (−13 °C) and for the weekend highs will be below 0 °F (−18 °C). But, it's all meaningless, as they say. I suppose, since I care, I'm not as much an existentialist as I pretend to be. Or something. I'm very confused. And frozen! Victoria (tk) 19:14, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- I found it; it's on my desktop dictionary. Victoria (tk) 19:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Bty, it'll cost you to know what the "I" word is; all I can say is its unknown to god-fearing folks; common in Cork. Ceoil (talk) 02:14, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- And well earned. 280% existentialist? Thats 6% more existentialist that I. I thought I was the only 280% existentialist in the village. Hrmp. Never talking to you again. Ceoil (talk) 01:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- P.s, Thank you for putting my user page back to an earlier version. I'd forgotten about that version; it's nice. Victoria (tk) 14:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it was 280% existentialist and tbh working on the Hemingway page (life = futility) has depressed me to no end, especially during this long and cold winter. Anyway, feeling much less gloomy today and I'll repair. Victoria (tk) 14:19, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Fine, but is getting blocked the solution. I do get it though. Its ok and frankly, healthy, to feel disaffected. here is something nice. Remembering you tested 280% athiest, that time, long go. Ceoil (talk) 04:42, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Tut tut. Messing with bot syntax again? dear oh dear; the road to hell. It'll be wp:rfa next. Here is a nice tune, meanwhile. Ceoil (talk) 00:55, 15 February 2015 (UTC) (I like this because it obv that the drummer is the brains). Ceoil (talk) 01:13, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- Tut tut is right. I don't quite understand that bot msg, but it forgot to leave me thanks for getting rid of borderline copyvio. Oh well, no good deed and all. Thanks for the tune - v nice. Victoria (tk) 02:32, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- Damn straight. Bots have thir own code; the fecking bastards. What ya gonna do. Better a basard than a trump. Ceoil (talk) 02:50, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- Tut tut is right. I don't quite understand that bot msg, but it forgot to leave me thanks for getting rid of borderline copyvio. Oh well, no good deed and all. Thanks for the tune - v nice. Victoria (tk) 02:32, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- Tut tut. Messing with bot syntax again? dear oh dear; the road to hell. It'll be wp:rfa next. Here is a nice tune, meanwhile. Ceoil (talk) 00:55, 15 February 2015 (UTC) (I like this because it obv that the drummer is the brains). Ceoil (talk) 01:13, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
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Why do I get the feeling ...
... that your newfound interest in me has something to do with this? Rationalobserver (talk) 18:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
My second guess was this edit, which you've confirmed is what sparked your interest. Do you realize that Sarah defended me against the last round of sock-puppet allegations? You are making a mistake here, but I sure hope it's being made in good-faith, and it's not some kind of tactic to drive me away from "your territory", or in retaliation for disagreeing with SV. Rationalobserver (talk) 19:11, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- No, I didn't know there were other SPIs. If I'm wrong, I'll be the first person to apologize, but I think it's best not to have suspicions. To answer the question you left on your page, I've been looking at this for a few days after I noticed the talk page conversation. I'd put Irataba on watch with the intention of reviewing but something about that conversation felt like deja vu. I did look at Waters and to do my job diligently will have to do the same thing there as on Rose-Baley Party. Let's let MRG decide what to do about the tagging there. Victoria (tk) 19:26, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- That's fine, but FTR, I've been involved in a couple of very extensive discussions with MRG regarding close paraphrasing, and she has made it quite clear to me that moderate close paraphrasing is acceptable here at Misplaced Pages, which does not require an academic standard for plagiarism. I think most of what you found at RBP is not problematic, but there are a few that I should re-write if I don't just quit after this witch-hunt. I think editors get traumatized by sock-trolls, and they start to see them everywhere. I was singled out right away because I "knew to much" about the processes here, but I first edited Misplaced Pages many years ago, and I edited anonymously off and on for a couple of years after that. Last summer I made my first registered account, but I used my real name for it so I retired that after several weeks and made this one, that's apparently useless now, as I'll never live down these accusations that keep coming up. Like I said, if this is an honest good-faith suspicion I don't blame you, but please consider the effect this can have on innocent people. I have now been accused of being four different people, but, unless they are all the same editor, how could that be that I seem "just like" so many editors? Rationalobserver (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Rationalobserver: Just walk away from this, there is no connection so don't let it bother you. I've been accused for being a sock as well that resulted in an apology in the person who was the accuser. Just let it go and edit on, no need to quit over something like this. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Victoria I just hope you have strong evidence here, if not you are pinning an innocent person, and possibly driving them off Misplaced Pages. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:57, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- That's fine, but FTR, I've been involved in a couple of very extensive discussions with MRG regarding close paraphrasing, and she has made it quite clear to me that moderate close paraphrasing is acceptable here at Misplaced Pages, which does not require an academic standard for plagiarism. I think most of what you found at RBP is not problematic, but there are a few that I should re-write if I don't just quit after this witch-hunt. I think editors get traumatized by sock-trolls, and they start to see them everywhere. I was singled out right away because I "knew to much" about the processes here, but I first edited Misplaced Pages many years ago, and I edited anonymously off and on for a couple of years after that. Last summer I made my first registered account, but I used my real name for it so I retired that after several weeks and made this one, that's apparently useless now, as I'll never live down these accusations that keep coming up. Like I said, if this is an honest good-faith suspicion I don't blame you, but please consider the effect this can have on innocent people. I have now been accused of being four different people, but, unless they are all the same editor, how could that be that I seem "just like" so many editors? Rationalobserver (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Victoria, would you object to my taking a look at your writing for close paraphrasing? Rationalobserver (talk) 20:29, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
You made a mistake about me, and now you are putting me through stressful stuff just like ILT did to you. You are continuing the cycle of abuse. As I said before, I think this is good-faith, so I sympathize, but did you see that Copyright clerk agreed with me and suggested you had made a mistake, and the material you chose as evidence "does not remotely rise to the level of a copyright violation".? Rationalobserver (talk) 23:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey
Im sorry that things got so heated over at the SPI case, but in my opinion I feel RO is right about what she says when it comes to the Rose-Baley Party article. You are a great editor Victoria but given all that has happened I would just wait a week or so for things to cool down. Remember the SPI case you launched almost caused an innocent editor to quit Misplaced Pages and it took the efforts of editors to get her to stay. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks
Victoria, I appreciate you pinging me on the above situation, and I want you to know that I happen to agree with your position that there is a WP:DUCK here, so feel free to give me a heads up any time you think you have another related problem. I also want to note that I find Dennis Brown to be a respected user and when he popped out of retirement to comment that he's seeing what you see, that is worth noting and says good things about you and your credibility. I guess for now we focus on behavior and take drama to ANI. But a pat on the back to you for having the courage to raise this issue. If it wasn't ILT, it's a twin with a shockingly similar behavioral profile. In either case, don't go into a sock drawer alone. Montanabw 18:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)