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| *I agree with Felsic that Yaf looks and quacks very much like a duck. ] (]) 23:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | *I agree with Felsic that Yaf looks and quacks very much like a duck. ] (]) 23:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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| :* on Second Amendment article, Miguel Escopeta moved a sentence from the lead with this edit summary: ''we shouldn't mislead readers on incorporation (personally this whole paragraph should be struck, or at least moved to the historical portion of the article.'' | |||
| :* two hours later, Yaf moves the paragraph ME referred to, with the edit summary: ''Move out of lede. Historical viewpoint now.'' | |||
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| *{{selfendorse}} I disagree, I think a check would be helpful here. The topic is a fairly contentious one that has a number of users who have similar viewpoints. Sometimes we have users who take part in the same edit war (as shown above in the first few diffs). The edit summaries are common Misplaced Pages lingo used by a number of users, yet the two accounts show some similarities in the tone and mannerisms. I looked through the overlapping edits you've provided and I do think there's some merit. I just think a check would help nail this down. <span style="font-family: Palatino;"> ] • ]</span> 23:23, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | *{{selfendorse}} I disagree, I think a check would be helpful here. The topic is a fairly contentious one that has a number of users who have similar viewpoints. Sometimes we have users who take part in the same edit war (as shown above in the first few diffs). The edit summaries are common Misplaced Pages lingo used by a number of users, yet the two accounts show some similarities in the tone and mannerisms. I looked through the overlapping edits you've provided and I do think there's some merit. I just think a check would help nail this down. <span style="font-family: Palatino;"> ] • ]</span> 23:23, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
| *Both accounts are editing from a similar geographic area, but the data is otherwise {{inconclusive}}. —] (]) 23:55, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Yaf
Yaf (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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19 February 2015
– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Miguel Escopeta (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Yaf (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Suspected sockpuppets
Miguel Escopeta (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Reason "E"
- Edit warring
Yaf
Miguel Escopeta
- Talk page collusion
Miguel Escopeta
- 18:17, 18 February 2015 A misleading picture is worse than none at all. Showing a picture of dealers, with large quantities of firearms, is intentionally misleading. It should not be used.
Yaf
- 18:30, 18 February 2015 The image is simply wrong for this article, unless one wishes to mislead readers.
- Evidence
- Overlapping articles
Some of the shared pages are obscure (many under 100 editors, a few under 50). Some have nothing to do with guns. Some edits they've made are alike (probably more but I don't have time to find them). This ain't everything. Some big topics, like Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and Right to keep and bear arms, don't pin things down much but they're still about common interests. Another common interest is shootings.
- .410 bore
- 4 bore
- 7mm Remington Magnum
- Black powder substitute
- Brady Campaign
- Brazing (not guns)
- Brinell scale (not guns)
- Bushmaster M4 Type Carbine
- Colt 1851 Navy Revolver
- Colt Walker
- Concealed carry in the United States
- District of Columbia v. Heller
- Firearm (tool)
- Flying W Ranch (not guns)
- Gun culture in the United States
- Gun Owners of America
- Gun safe
- Gun safety
- Gun shows in the United States -"jerky"
- Gun violence in the United States
- Handloading
- Hoplophobia
- Iron sights
- Joyce Foundation
- Kenneth W. Royce
- Larry Pratt
- League of Women Voters -Gun control
- Lee-Enfield
- Long rifle
- Louie B. Nunn (not guns)
- Lupara
- Microstamping -"the goal of"
- Militia (United States)
- Molon labe
- Mosin–Nagant
- Muzzle brake
- Nambu pistol
- Overview of gun laws by nation
- Paper cartridge
- Phosphate conversion coating
- Pocket pistol
- Potassium nitrate
- Primary aldosteronism (not guns)
- Project Appleseed -deleting "self-styled"
- Rat-shot
- Ruby Ridge
- Samuel Hamilton Walker
- Saturday night special
- Škorpion vz. 61
- SKS
- Sodium silicate "paper cartridges"
- Suppressor
- Ted Nugent
- Template:Gun politics interest groups in the United States -Certain groups
- Template:USgunlegalbox
- Thompson Center Arms
- Unintended Consequences (novel)
- Vin Suprynowicz
- Wadcutter
- Wayne LaPierre
- Edit summaries
The accounts share many typical edit summaries, but those don't tell us much. These are some odd ones, a few used once or twice and others used often.
- Clarification
- clean-up
- Cruft
- Extreme POV
- Nonsense
- Oh well...
- POV push
- smoothing text
- tagline
- WP is not censored
- Discussion
From what I can tell based on this quick look, Yaf is the first account from 2005. Earlier edits were made by a few IPs. Miguel Escopeta registered in 2009. The editor used both accounts for years without detection. In 2013 the Yaf account went dormant. It came back two years later for a current edit war.
There's no way in hell these two accounts are different people. The accounts share common articles, common edits, and common summaries. Check-user ain't even necessary. WP:DUCK. Anyways, he could've covered his IP tracks and made CU worthless. There could be more socks but I'm tired of looking.
Yaf was blocked four times for edit warring. Miguel Escopeta has a clean block record though he's been in edit wars that never got reported. The current edit warring is about a topic under ArbCom sanctions. Felsic (talk) 15:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- I agree with Felsic that Yaf looks and quacks very much like a duck. Lightbreather (talk) 23:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is interesting:
- 16:07, 25 February 2013 on Second Amendment article, Miguel Escopeta moved a sentence from the lead with this edit summary: we shouldn't mislead readers on incorporation (personally this whole paragraph should be struck, or at least moved to the historical portion of the article.
- 18:15, 25 February 2013 two hours later, Yaf moves the paragraph ME referred to, with the edit summary: Move out of lede. Historical viewpoint now.
- --Lightbreather (talk) 00:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Self-endorsed by clerk for checkuser attention I disagree, I think a check would be helpful here. The topic is a fairly contentious one that has a number of users who have similar viewpoints. Sometimes we have users who take part in the same edit war (as shown above in the first few diffs). The edit summaries are common Misplaced Pages lingo used by a number of users, yet the two accounts show some similarities in the tone and mannerisms. I looked through the overlapping edits you've provided and I do think there's some merit. I just think a check would help nail this down. Mike V • Talk 23:23, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- Both accounts are editing from a similar geographic area, but the data is otherwise
Inconclusive. —DoRD (talk) 23:55, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
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