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==Bad-faith accusation of forum-shopping== | |||
==John Carter ANI draft (just in case an apology for the patently false forum-shopping/sockpuppetry allegations isn't forthcoming)== | |||
Recently I |
Recently I started an ANI thread on ]. {{User|John Carter}} asserted it was a content dispute and should go to DRN, and then started claiming it already ''was'' under discussion on DRN and that I was forum-shopping. This was not true. I checked DRN and found ] involving Catflap08. I ] an honest mistake, as he what looked like a claim to ignorance of the area (Japanese Buddhism). He ignored me when I informed him that the DRN thread was on an unrelated topic. | ||
Then I noticed John Carter had in this area several times. |
Then I noticed John Carter had in this area several times. He appears to be one of the few users Catflap08 doesn't dislike. His experience editing articles on Japanese Buddhism, and his refusal to retract the accusation, implies not a good-faith mistake but a deliberate false accusation against me to defend his friend. He was also accusing me of bringing an active DRN discussion to ANI despite being clearly aware that ] not long before. John Carter accused me of doing the exact thing he was defending Catflap08 for! | ||
⚫ | I want a retraction of the false accusations, and if he still refuses I'd like an IBAN between us. Otherwise, when Catflap08 repeats his disruptive behaviour<!-- Not an assumption of bad faith -- he's repeated the same pattern three or four times on the same article already -->, I can' t be sure John Carter won't jump in to rescue his friend by posting nonsense accusations against me once again. | ||
Also, John Carter was accusing me of bringing an active DRN discussion to ANI, something he was clearly aware that ] not long before, about which point John Carter was also silent. | |||
⚫ | I want a retraction of the false accusations, and if he still refuses I'd like an IBAN between us. Otherwise, when Catflap08 |
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Once the following users have all been investigated and sockpuppets blocked, the WP:FRINGE, WP:SYNTH-infested WP:POVFORK article Korean influence on Japanese culture will be taken to AFD. All the sources in it are either unreliable fringe works, or reliable sources that are being quoted out of context to promote the fringe POV that all or most of Japanese culture originated in Korea.
Potential anti-Korean POV-pushing SPAs?
- Hiraki (talk · contribs)
- Arstriker (talk · contribs)
- Juzumaru (talk · contribs)
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Apparent pro-Korean (anti-Japanese) POV-pushing SPAs
- Koryosaram (talk · contribs)
- Nippononna (talk · contribs)
- Keepfix (talk · contribs)
- Consoleman (talk · contribs)
- Globalscene (talk · contribs): Violently anti-Japanese POV-pushing fringe theorist. Originator of the WP:FRINGE, WP:SYNTH WP:POVFORK article Korean influence on Japanese culture
- JARA7979 (talk · contribs)
- Samuel Hwang (talk · contribs)Hwang&l=1000: Early edits to Hwang (Korean surname) imply "Samuel Hwang" is his real name, which by extension implies he has not violated WP:SOCK, but his other edits imply a strong anti-Japanese bias ("The Japanese were guilty of engaging in a massive conspiracy against our country"...).
- Historiographer (talk · contribs): Like an "anti-Juzumaru" apparently possessed of a powerful nationalist agenda and an ability to avoid being silenced for an extended period. I don't know yet whether or not he has engaged in sockpuppetry, but it certainly seems possible.
- 捏造撃破戦線 (talk · contribs): Obvious sockpuppet of someone (probably Historiographer (talk · contribs)). Appearing suddenly and joining Historiographer's edit war with Juzumaru. I can't tell if the number itself is anti-Japanese or pro-Korean or anything, but the username implies ... something ... probably ...
- Jagello (talk · contribs): Super-suspicious account that appeared suddenly, after a 19 month absence, immediately after the closing of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Korean influence on Japanese culture despite never having edited the page before or posting on the AFD itself. Restored a version of the article that had not been up since roughly 8 months before the AFD. This implies the user has in fact edited the page in the past but decided to log in under a different account as an "impartial observer". Given the age, this is probably the sockmaster rather than the sockpuppet, but I wonder who the puppet is...
- KoreanSentry (talk · contribs): Okay, to be fair this is probably not the same person as Jagello given what looks like a relative lack of shared interests, but this edit is even more suspicious than any of Jagello's. Another point of note is that their username implies some connection with a certain external site that Korean nationalists seem to be using to discuss their edits to articles on Korean relations with Japan and China on English Misplaced Pages.
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- Silverarrowx (talk · contribs)
- Knsn57 (talk · contribs)
- Miracle dream (talk · contribs)
- Blitzwar (talk · contribs): No clear POV, but a Bunroku-Keicho SPA who relied exclusively on questionable popular books by Turnbull.
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Users who appear to have the right idea
- MerveillesDX (talk · contribs)
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Bad-faith accusation of forum-shopping
Recently I started an ANI thread on User:Catflap. John Carter (talk · contribs) asserted it was a content dispute and should go to DRN, and then started claiming it already was under discussion on DRN and that I was forum-shopping. This was not true. I checked DRN and found an unrelated thread involving Catflap08. I assumed an honest mistake, as heposted what looked like a claim to ignorance of the area (Japanese Buddhism). He ignored me when I informed him that the DRN thread was on an unrelated topic.
Then I noticed John Carter had collaborated with Catflap08 in this area several times. He appears to be one of the few users Catflap08 doesn't dislike. His experience editing articles on Japanese Buddhism, and his refusal to retract the accusation, implies not a good-faith mistake but a deliberate false accusation against me to defend his friend. He was also accusing me of bringing an active DRN discussion to ANI despite being clearly aware that his friend had done just that not long before. John Carter accused me of doing the exact thing he was defending Catflap08 for!
I want a retraction of the false accusations, and if he still refuses I'd like an IBAN between us. Otherwise, when Catflap08 repeats his disruptive behaviour, I can' t be sure John Carter won't jump in to rescue his friend by posting nonsense accusations against me once again.