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An IP User has ] your statement on ]. If it is you and you don't want your IP address known I suggest you contact oversight. If it isn't you, well then I thought you should know someone updated your statement. — ] (]) 12:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC) An IP User has ] your statement on ]. If it is you and you don't want your IP address known I suggest you contact oversight. If it isn't you, well then I thought you should know someone updated your statement. — ] (]) 12:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

== Topic ban ==

Sorry, Ashtul, this brings me no joy, but I think it's necessary. I don't know whether you genuinely don't understand or you're just being duplicitous; I hope the former, but on my talk page and the it relates to demonstrate to me that you are not suited to editing in such a fraught topic area. Just by way of example, the sarcasm in the apology that thread refers to is blindingly obvious, even to me—so obvious that I can quite comfortably comment on it as an admin—and if you can't see that it's either because your politics has got in the way of the objectivity we expect of editors or because you don't understand the meaning of the text.<p>As such, you are hereby banned from editing an article or page, making any edit, or participating in any discussion relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict anywhere on Misplaced Pages. This is a discretionary sanction in accordance with ]. You may appeal this in accordance with ], or you can request reconsideration after not less than six months of constructive editing in another topic area. As an aside, I strongly suggest you find some uncontroversial article work to do in a completely different topic area, otherwise I foresee you getting into more trouble. ] &#124; ] 20:45, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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breaking of topic ban.

You received a topic ban from Israel/Palestine area on the 27th of January, logged Misplaced Pages:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions/Log/2015#Palestine-Israel_articles. User:HJ Mitchell said he would think about it; he didn´t promise to undo it. In spite of this, nearly all your edits since that day have been violations of your topic ban, please stop. Huldra (talk) 17:10, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Which one edit disturb you? None of them touched on Israel-Palestine issues. They were geographical or about towns inside pre-1967 Israel. Ashtul (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Sigh, the topic ban is broadly constructed, just stay away from articles on Israel /Palestine. Touching articles like Acre Prison break is clearly forbidden. And then this and this .....in view of this from the same IP? Seriously, Huldra (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Acre Prison break came up when I editted Shavei Tzion so I added it. I will not use IP anymore. Ashtul (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
  • I was seriously considering lifting the topic ban, but you've violated it twice today alone. Sure, adding geographical and similar content to articles about towns in Israel would not be covered by the topic ban, because the topic ban is from the Arab-Israeli conflict rather than anything that concerns only Israel or only Palestine/Arabia, but the Acre Prison break article clearly is covered by the topic ban, as is all of the content you added here. I'm afraid I've blocked you for a fortnight for the violations. That's longer than normal for a first topic-ban violation because of the length of your previous block, but that itself was longer than I would have thought necessary so if you ask me in a week I'll consider lifting the block. If you demonstrate for a few weeks after that that you can stick to the topic ban, I'll reconsider lifting that as well. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
All of these are about geographical points. Nothing to do with important history or current event.Ashtul (talk) 20:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
HJ Mitchell, you keep me blocked while Nishidani keeps doing the exact same thoughtful vandalism I complained about. This edit of Karmei Tzur is another example of his slow, yet systematic (like you could see from the numerous examples I have given) obliteration of pages about settlement. Communal Settlement was written in the page when it was created about 8 years ago but Mr. Nishidani WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT. He has nothing to base his deletion on as a quick give over 1,000 results, one even from Nishidani WP:RS, jfjfp.
I was blamed my complaint was about retaliation but here is just another fresh example of his WP:TENDENTIOUS editing, which I cannot see how can ever be justified. I was never called stupid but I still cannot see how can this be regarded as content disputes. Ashtul (talk) 08:33, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, Ashtul: fresh of a ban, and you start inserting very contentious edits on West Bank settlements? I thought you were still topic-banned? Huldra (talk) 21:50, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Ok, just saw that you are no longer topic-banned. Still edit-warring, though, Huldra (talk) 22:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Huldra, edit-warring??? I added simple text about the fact they are YISHUV KEHILATI. That is a fact. You don't like the way it stated on the communal settlement (Israel), change it, but you can't change the facts. In the spirit of peace, how do you want to proceed with it? What wording you suggest? Ashtul (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Google books

I see many references from Google book but many of them do not me see the page referenced. What am I missing? Ashtul (talk) 17:38, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Often google-books let you see some of the book, but not all. It depends on geography and time: two people accessing in say, Spain and the US at the same time, might have access to different pages. And the pages you cannot access today, you might have access to tomorrow. If you look at User:Huldra/Sources: I spend quite a bit of time finding which google-ref had "preview", and which had not. And added then link to the one with preview. Huldra (talk) 17:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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What a low blow. If you have spent more then a second you would have realized it is extremely insignificant and Nishidani, in his massive rollback didn't care to keep the relevant changes. This is completely childish. Ashtul (talk) 12:30, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

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Editing while logged out?

An IP User has updated your statement on WP:AE. If it is you and you don't want your IP address known I suggest you contact oversight. If it isn't you, well then I thought you should know someone updated your statement. — Strongjam (talk) 12:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Topic ban

Sorry, Ashtul, this brings me no joy, but I think it's necessary. I don't know whether you genuinely don't understand or you're just being duplicitous; I hope the former, but this discussion on my talk page and the talk page thread it relates to demonstrate to me that you are not suited to editing in such a fraught topic area. Just by way of example, the sarcasm in the apology that thread refers to is blindingly obvious, even to me—so obvious that I can quite comfortably comment on it as an admin—and if you can't see that it's either because your politics has got in the way of the objectivity we expect of editors or because you don't understand the meaning of the text.

As such, you are hereby banned from editing an article or page, making any edit, or participating in any discussion relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict anywhere on Misplaced Pages. This is a discretionary sanction in accordance with WP:ARBPIA. You may appeal this in accordance with the appeals procedure, or you can request reconsideration after not less than six months of constructive editing in another topic area. As an aside, I strongly suggest you find some uncontroversial article work to do in a completely different topic area, otherwise I foresee you getting into more trouble. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:45, 7 March 2015 (UTC)