Revision as of 20:32, 21 July 2006

• Answer here. ~~~~
• Buddhist (possibly the only other world religion :) ) Ansell 04:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
• Atheism --Srikeit 05:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
• Agnostic. (A pretty wild guess...I was unable to find any hints of bias the edits I saw). OhNoitsJamie 06:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
• That flying spaghetti thing -- Samir धर्म 12:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
• While editing wikipedia, your religion is wiki-religion, like me! --Bhadani 16:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Btw, as to your religion, I'm guessing either narephilia or piscatorialism (my ever-worsening Latin provides me nothing better for love of swimming), so your supreme deity must be...Tamás Darnyi? Joe 04:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Atheist or agnostic... Just a strong hunch. Grandmasterka 07:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Buddhist? Kimchi.sg 08:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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Blnguyen (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) has been an administrator since 29 May 2006.

The recent semi-protection of the Mahatma Gandhi and full protection of the Military budget of the People's Republic of China and Human rights in the People's Republic of China articles which I enacted here, here and here due to vandalism and edit-warring was reported in the Indian media and the New York Times

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Sweet dear B

I'm sorry you had to listen to the foolish thoughts of a silly girl while you were stressed and having a tough time, my beloved B. Your words have relieved me, but your absence is saddening; and not only because of our friendship, but because it's Misplaced Pages's loss as a whole to have you away, even for a short while. I'll be waiting for you to return whenever you feel the time is right; please, relax, you've worked so incredibly hard in the last times, that you desperately need a soothing rest. I'll always be around in case you feel like talking. Your friend, now and always, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 09:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Thought you might like some coffee. I was up to 5 XL coffees a day a couple of months ago (thanks Tim Hortons!) Just like you can't solve all the world's problems, you can't solve all of WP's problems. But you're a gem of an admin and a genuinely good guy to be trying so hard. -- Samir धर्म 12:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Olympic torch + stuff 2

And thank you for writing such wonderful nominations! By the way, I saw you were stressed and hope you know that while this project is extremely lucky to have such a dedicated and kind contributor like you, we all need some time off to relax as well. So sit back, enjoy your wikibreak, and maybe focus more on writing some articles. :) Kind regards, Sango123 23:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

PS: I took the company car (pictured left) out for a spin, and well... it's not quite how I pictured it. --Chris S. 23:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

On a personal note - thanks for taking the time in defending me. That meant a lot. --Chris S. 23:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

All matters relating to religious disputes involving Users Subhash bose, Haphar, WikiSceptic and Anwar saadat

Note to readers: This is not the source of my wiki-stress, but rather the deletion backlog, which is endlessly long and mindnumbingly boring. This dispute is rather interesting and complex. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Subhash bose

I've seen Subhash Bose in a number of other articles and while he may seem POV-Pushing at first, he has the potential to become a good Wikipedian. He has a good grasp of things happening in India and doesn't hold the "Get out of this page if you are anti-Hindu" or something POV even though I have seen him get agitated because of some anti-Hindutva edits. Perhaps he just needs encouragement and needs to learnt to conform to Wikipolicy. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

You have blocked another user because of WP:NPA. While I strongly disagree with this user's personal attacks and his userpage, a user must be warned before being blocked. Looking at his talkpage, I see he wasn't warned, and the dispute resolution process wasn't followed. The incident should rather be reported first at WP:PAIN. I think a weeklong first block without any prior warning and for a relatively mild case is too harsh. He should first be warned for personal attacks and the first block should be shorter. Please point me to the policy that justifies a weeklong block without prior warning. Especially since in many other cases, users weren't blocked for worse PA's even after warnings . Cheers. --Msiev 11:48, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

You blocked User:Subhash bose for one week. It usually not done so with new users. People have different habits before joining wikipedia. I suggest you to reblock him for a shorter term, unless you have specific reasons for long block. (e.g., a suspected sockpuppet. Simply very strong language is not a valid reason: different cultures have different tolerance to words; it is a matter of education of new users, rather than punishing them. Long blocks are for persisting violators). Thank you, `'mikka (t) 17:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I reviewed the uncivility of user:Subhash bose and I must say that his attacks are very mild in comparison what I've seen in wikipedia. Of course, they are inacceptable, but I think the user must be mentored, rather than blocked. I think he may be given another chance, with heavy warning. I am unblocking him, but will watch his behavior. `'mikka (t) 17:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, although I guess I have very harsh standards (relatively), and I intend to enforce them when I come across them. Blnguyen | rant-line 06:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid you are mistaken: he could edit after unblock. At the same time it is quite possible that he was using still another sockpuppet, which was blocked and his IP was automatically blocke when he tried to edit from blocked account. If this is the case, good for him. I am not aware of any other possibilities. On the other hand, I don'd do much blocking and I see that blocking/unblocking tool changed. In particular, I don't quite understand the meaning of the pending autoblock here: Pusyamitra did edit after the indicated date. `'mikka (t) 05:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Lkadvani&redirect=no

I got this message after a recent edit.I think it is self evident what this chap is up to.

Lkadvani 23:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, the sock is suspect but it is probably him; very likely according to the RFCU. So I blocked the IP for a week.Blnguyen | rant-line 01:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2002_Gujarat_violence&diff=64644199&oldid=64626162 Please have a look on the comments - "Pakistani propoganda ...." Anything not corresponding to his personal pro Hindutva POV ..he feels free to remove.

Some of the sites cited frequently by this user has been banned in India in the interest of:

sovereignty or integrity of India security of the state friendly relations with foreign states and public order preventing incitement to commissioning of any cognisable offences.He has been testing patience of many Wikiauthors

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5194172.stm

Lkadvani 14:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I'm not so convinced that blogs should be cited at all, but as I said before, I was here mainly to make the debate civilised, rather than mediate POV as I am ignorant towards Hindu theology as well ignorant towards the politics of religion in India. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Bear in mind that LKAdvani here uses CENSORSHIP of the STALINIST UPA government as a justification for retaliating against my own humble self. Why should wikipedia give a rat's rear-end whether the Indian government bans a website or not? eh? A government that practices censorship of FREE-SPEECH is not a democratic government and is automatically suspect in all it's 'disseminated facts' *cough propaganda *cough. Pro-Hindutva am I? Maybe. But LKAdvaani here is equally biased if you look at his edit histories calmly and objectively. His disturbing screed against hindus (NOT hindutva people, ALL Hindus) in various talk pages, combined with his glaringly Hindu userid, indicates either a level of personal dichotomy that borders on schizophrenia, or a deep loathing for all things Indian. What about HIS BIAS? Am I not a counterbalance to his quasi-communist ravings?Netaji 02:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Rushdie

If User Subhash is not highly right wing POVed.His knowledge of the topics he is editing is perverted and of the type usually called as misinformation - some call it ignorance and an encyclopoedia in such hand s will be disastrous for Misplaced Pages.

Take a look on the edits:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2002_Gujarat_violence&diff=61349527&oldid=61286591

Here he adds: The United Nations International Human Rights Commission has not recognized the Gujarat riots as a human rights issue.

Now user 62. something changed it to read: The United Nations International Human Rights Commission has recognized the Gujarat riots as a human rights issue adding links to UN articles http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2002_Gujarat_violence&diff=61353881&oldid=61353537

Pat comes Subhash with the change: The United Nations International Human Rights Commission has not yet fully recognized the Gujarat riots as a human rights issue. However, campaigns to recognize it have been made by Islamist organizations like the world muslim congress demanding expediency in the process

And take a look at what he writes to the user 62.

Removed a redundant link. Oh, and to 62.189.60.30, get a login. That way the NSA can know which school you plan to bomb next

Encyclopaedia under such perverted mind - does not add value to wikipedia.Subhash should better avoid these words as they give him away from any login - zeitgeist,adhominem,mein freund.

There has been an explicit use of fowl language towards Muslims - many talk pages like the one below using (Netaji) Login --Note that "Netaji" and "Subahsh Bose" or "Subhash Chandra" are the variants of the name of Indian freedom fighter Subhash Chandra Bose.

Here he calls the dead in Gujarat as terrorists:

The death toll of Godhra was 3000 terrorist jihadis and their sympathizers. Big difference,see? On, and I know that muslims find loyal allies in left wing liberals (like the organizations above) and self-hating hindus(like you, maybe). Like I said, you may post the link if you wish, but then I have evidence to balance it out with an endless litany of muslim genocides and atrocities in Gujarat itself. The truth about Islam is something you muslim-lovers don't want on wikipedia. Netaji 16:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

and the use of "be" in Hindi is similar to provoking one to fight. Rushdie 12:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Anwar saadat

I also request you to watch Anwar saadat's edits of my userpage carefully. His adding the tag was ok, but he vandalized my page by removing all other content. I have reverted (keeping the tags), bit he will surely vandalize again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subhash bose (talk • contribs)

I'm well aware.Blnguyen | rant-line 05:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The following user has violated 3RR rule and engaged in personal attacks: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Contributions&target=87.74.46.193 I request you to look into this, given your strong stance against personal attacks.(Netaji 17:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC))

The IP is that of Anwar (Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Anwar saadat). He has been blocked for a month. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User:WikiSceptic vs User:Subhash bose

Is this worth a ban ? Tintin (talk) 06:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I'll put a word in Admin noticeboard so that the others will also see it Tintin (talk) 07:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, he deserves it. Tintin (talk) 07:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi: I noticed that on the Administrator's Noticeboard you said that you had noticed that Subhash Bose has not made any pronounced POV edits. I would direct you to 2002 Gujarat violence, which I have stopped editing precisely because of his constant POV-pushing and unpleasantness on the talk page. In particular, , , . He also tends to remove references and hyperlinks that do not agree with whatever POV he wishes to push at the time. Its not such a problem, because I think he basically is capable of understanding what NPOV actually is, he just acts out a lot of anger in the way he edits. Hornplease 08:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, and I hope you're back soon. I just wanted to say that I was not in any way comparing the length of disbarring handed out to Subhash Bose and Wikiskeptic, as I dont know anything about the latter's case. Also, I read the various posts above from other admins criticising the ban on the grounds that Bose is a newbie, and I have to say I disagree strongly. This editor does not need to be gently introduced to protocol, he needs no mentoring; he knows exactly what he is doing and thinks he can get away with it. Two different problems, two different approaches, and yours was correct. Hornplease 11:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support, especially on my stance against religious and personal attacks. I'm not stressed by holding personal attackers to account, it's mainly the deletion backlog. And I don't think anybody needs to be reminded about basic courtesy and decency towards other users. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I acted out of anger because I AM angry. Nonetheless, those who wish to add edits that don't defame and denigrate hindus in the style of Der Ewige Juden propaganda films are welcome to do so, even when it involves legitimate criticism. Unlike people of a certain 'religion of peace' we don't froth in the mouth when faced with legitimate criticism. If you notice my recent edit of Manu Smriti I have kept all criticisms of it's Brahministic supremacy while removed ridiculous claims of anti-feminism (bah! Feminism is a modern movement and doesn't apply in this context) or racism (racism is a European ideology, what it was was ethnocentric which is different from racism). These details are where the anti-Hindu propaganda begins, and I merely chose to contest that. The reason why I got angry was the clear bias that many admins (not binguyen) showed in favor of muslims like this Anwar saadat chap and Christian Fundamentalists like Wikisceptic. If you're impartial and fair like Binguyen has been (for the most part anyway) there won;t be problems even with punitive measures.(Netaji 10:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC))

There is no room for anger on Misplaced Pages.Secondly, I believe your sarcasm will not be easily digested by whoever you target.May I remind you that you have shown much more froth at mouth than the people of the certain religion of peace and I suspect certain contributors who have supported you in your suspension have done an equal damage to the articles by introducing Weasel wordings in the articles on Hindutva,Ram Janmabhoomi,Babri Masjid and Gujarat riots.

Lkadvani 17:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Haphar

I have listed the times when the user has insulted me, he continues to make accusations, and I am responding to a comment he has made to me on his talk page. So what is the issue with that ? I also would like to know what action would be taken against User Subhash Bose now that you know he is the puppeteer ? Haphar 08:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Does he not continue to exist as User Subhash Bose ? The wind up was less offensive than me being called blind. Also Subhash Bose has got blocked for Shiv Sena revert war, what of his puppetry, does that not get any punishment ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Haphar (talk • contribs)

I'm waiting for feedback. People are often hesitant when checkuser is not conclusive. Also I don't see how being called blind is worse than religious inflammation and incitement.

192.43.227.18 08:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm assuming this is your ip above, so if I tell someone that he is seeing terrorists on the net, that is religious inflammation and incitement ? Sarcasm I buy but religous inflammation and incitement ? The other person can make put "pick up a gun and fight against Christian Missionaries and islamic fundamentalists" on his user page and I get to be the one doing religious infalmmation and incitement ? Haphar 10:16, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Your complaint is not valid as Subhash has already been blocked for a week for his userpage and attacks committed on various talk pages. I have only asked you to stop making sarcastic retorts and inflammatory comments and you have not yet been sanctioned because quite clearly your behaiviour is better. Your complaint of victimization is not valid. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I have said sarcasm part is valid, ( and if you have to make comparisons it is still a lot less inflammatory than kya karega be). But where is the "religious" in the wind up or incitement?Haphar 01:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Possibly not many people know this, but I actually don't know any Indian languages. So you might want to translate. Blnguyen | rant-line 01:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

If you want the translation of kya karega be - it means what are you going to do. The word be is not the most respectful way to address a person but is not an abuse either. In case you are looking for some other translation, I will be glad to help. Regarding your comments on my talk page, pls give me some time. I will surely answer -- Lost 04:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

"Be" like "saala" or "saale" is an insult if used with someone you do not personally know. Between friends it might not be seen as an insult, but to say it to someone you do not know is an insult. You do not say "be" to people in office, or on the street, unless you are looking to pick up a fight. Haphar 05:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes I agree with Haphar on that. It is certainly not WP:Civil -- Lost 05:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, he's already gone for 7 days. Blnguyen | rant-line 05:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC).

FYI

WP:RFCU: -- Samir धर्म 08:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Mad Bomber

I wouldn't worry about this one- I don't think having an RfA up is a window of opportunity for trolling without consequence. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 08:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I was just reading the RfA page as you replied. I recommend a name change to "Mad User Who Shoots Himself in Foot". Blocking looks fine to me. --Cactus.man ✍ 08:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I really did vote. -- Go Yanks! 09:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.5 (talk • contribs)

i havent done anything

are you stupid —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.1 (talk • contribs) .

Ian Paisley and your blocking of me.

You are nothing but a bigot. Ian Paisley is a defender of his community, a fine christian and a dedicated MP. Mr Paisley is a reformed Christian and publically, he does nothing more than any Christian should. You obvuiously hate Paisley and are therefore unfit to write about him

The Pope really is ANTICHRIST. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.1 (talk • contribs) .

I looked at your block log and the history of Ian Paisley and I have not touched the article nor anybody who has edited it. I'm afraid I think that you may be mistaken. Blnguyen | rant-line 02:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

It's OK; I was sure that there was duplicate vote somewhere on my RfA even if I couldn't find it, and I felt kind of guilty being on WP:100 as a result. smurrayinchester 22:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Stephen Holland

Even without having looked at the history, I figured you'd created the article. When I have time, I'll certainly help with some swimming-related work. I'd commit to creating (at least) a stub for every American Olympic Games medallist for whom an article doesn't exist, but that would take some time; it's much easier to complete such a task for every Australian, since, well, there are so many fewer of the latter... :)) Joe 04:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Btw, as to your religion, I'm guessing either narephilia or piscatorialism (my ever-worsening Latin provides me nothing better for love of swimming), so your supreme deity must be...Tamás Darnyi? Joe 04:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Known sockpuppet still on Gujarat Riots page1

128.83.131.125 has edited the page again yesterday.Subhash Bose He has been proving difficult to manage.Inserts subtle POV in support of the Gujarat Chief Minsiter and Hindutva champions.

If you read articles from the Indian and international media - they all point to the involvement of the Gujarat government in killings of innocent civilians.

This user adds words that seem to precipitate or divert attention from the main topic and cites blogs and Hindutva think tanks to support it and in most cases leaves a general statement, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.84.65 (talk • contribs)

Ok, a CheckUser for sockpuppets will be conducted. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 02:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC).

Image:Admin.sxc

I saw your spreadsheet about new admins, and it's interesting data, but I think you had a methodological flaw. Instead of raw support-oppose*3, that column should probably be equalized to a percentage system (support/support+oppose). Then people who had less voters aren't penalized, and your top placements shift a bit (although not in most of the lower cases). Also, Deletes/day is probably a better sort key than raw # of deletions, since the latter is prejudiced toward people who have been around longer (this puts Jaranda in first place by the way, instead of you). -- nae'blis _(talk) 16:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Well I had three sheets on that spreadsheet, with the ranking via three measures, total deletes, delete rate and also delete rate per unit net support. You can have a look using the other two sheets. The reason that I think the percentage system isn't as true as the net support, is that the guy who gets 100-0 is presumably more hardworking or has contributed more than the person who got 25-0; hence I'm using it to work out which admins seem to be overrated or underrated. Just to see who got lots of votes and hasn't been doing much.Blnguyen | rant-line 02:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Thanks for signing up to help out! You've been assigned Rama's Arrow to coach, along with your fellow coach User:Ilyanep. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, Petros471 16:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

O Guru! I am your unworthy disciple. I beg you to give me the highest honour to learn from you and serve you! Hehehehe....thanks for doing this. If its agreeable to you, we can work at user:Rama's Arrow/Coaching. This Fire Burns.....Always 16:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, this is an interesting new adventure for me.Blnguyen | rant-line 06:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi - I'm online right now, so how about we start the process at the subpage? I'd just like to understand what we'll be working on, and when the process will be convenient for either one of us to do. This Fire Burns.....Always 04:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Please post on the subpage. This Fire Burns.....Always 04:16, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi - I'm sorry but I have to withdraw from admin coaching at this time. This Fire Burns.....Always 14:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Yea Gods! Its not dat (you're a great admin). This morning I got an update on my term of study, and I don't think I can focus on preparing for adminship. I'll think I just learn the ropes slow and nice. Besides, I don't have any plans for a second RfA. This Fire Burns.....Always 02:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Blnguyen, are you ok to take on a new trainee? I being so close to the last one I would have normally assigned a new one automatically, but I'm not sure how much of a wikibreak you are on (per note at top of page). Actually taking a glance at your contribs suggests not much of one :) Let me add to the others- try not to get too stressed at the backlogs. I'm trying to do my bit over at RFA getting some more admins through the system, so hopefully that will help. I did a load of I5 deletions the other day as well- wow there was a lot! Petros471 10:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Regarding my RfA, I would like to thank you for voting. Although you opposed my RfA, thank you for letting me know what points you feel I should work on. I wasn't really too suprised when my RfA didn't pass, nor am I disappointed. I will keep trying to do my best here at Misplaced Pages and I hope you will vote again on my next RfA. Paul Cyr 21:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Grandmasterka's RfA

Hello YellowMonkey, and thank you for your (very well written) nomination and strong support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Misplaced Pages. The 💕. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grandmasterka 05:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Eurovision Song Contest

Hi. I have submitted the main Eurovision article for Peer Review, hoping to get it up to Featured standard. If you have any comments and contributions, please let me know. Thanks. EuroSong 15:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

A well-deserved award...

Thankyou very much Michael. I feel it is important for me to do so, especially, as the deletion backlogs are always piled up. Blnguyen | rant-line 02:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Continued vandalism from 202.76.162.34 after several temp bans

Looks like 202.76.162.34 is quite active when it comes to vandalism. It has been blocked several times, and keeps causing trouble. Might need some further action? Thanks for looking into it! Joe 01:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I was late but my watchlist takes 2hrs to go through after the weekend and someone else has already blocked. Blnguyen | rant-line 02:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

bad practice!!!!!!!!! DELETION EGO

Hi there

My names Shem booth-Spain, im a artist, producer and academic. You deleted the page that was being built for me, and left a rather ignorant comment "an academic who doesn't seem to have PhD

well let me address this, first of all i was accepted and started a PhD course at the university of Greenwich London computing and mathematical sciences, and Plymouth university (planetary colligium) uk with supervisor Roy ascott- I’m not doing that PhD no more, not because i quite or sat on my ass and smoked weed, but because i could not afford it. im only 24, yet my artworks all over the world, ive performed my music in 4 countries, Ive published research, ive spoke at the Technarte 2006 art & technology conference, ive written and produced a double concept album, ive taught and lectured at various university’s, im dyslexic but i play guitar, piano, sing, paint, carve stone, engineer music and produce performance and sonic art, yet your very rude and offending comment gives a very narrow mindset for someone of yr supposed stature(remember your a STUDENT). several people are working on that page of me and are not happy and very disappointed by yr "up your own ass attitude comment"

That page was an ongoing work and not a promo or selling spam. it was the start of a 3rd person perspective on my work.

please could you put that page back and MAIL ME BACK ON THIS MATTER

best regards

Shem— Preceding unsigned comment added by Animus666 (talk • contribs)

Firstly I have to say that WP:AUTO tells us that Autobiography is a poor move, and your doing so is inappropriate. Secondly, I deleted it under Speedy deletion policy criterion a7, and stated a summary of why this is the case. The basis of the article was that you were a music academic, but your substantiation of being a PhD student is not sufficient for this, as it is far from being a sufficeint grounds for inclusion - although you may feel that I am behaving snobbishly, yes I am a PhD student myself, and no, I am not even remotely close to being notable and thirdly I have no intention of writing about myself. No, I did not accuse you of dropping out, as the article did not say that that had happened, and secondly I did not accuse of smoking marijuana either. If you rewrite the article with an explanation of why you are notable, then we'll see what happens. And you might want to disclose if you were the IP that anonymously blanked my userpage yesterday as that IP also spammed various articles with you self-promotional site. Blnguyen | rant-line 04:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Response from other admins and users

Don't worry about it. This is the second time in a week, though, that my tactics have been misread. I was attempting to be polite to the fellow and to mollify him and pat his head. I hope that I indicated that Random J. Professor doesn't pass the bar and that he would need to do considerably better to get the article to stick. I absolutely agree with A7 on doctoral students. We shall have the poor with us, always, and doctoral students. Basically, although CV's aren't mentioned explicitly in the CSD criteria, they generally are. Anyway, I had no doubts and really wanted to keep the complainer from souring. I hope (twice I've hoped) that we can turn these people away without turning them against us by excessive politeness without encouragement. (And, by the way, the article also fails Geogre's law: "Any article with a miniscule surname is already in trouble.") Geogre 03:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Likewise, you'll see that once Hit Bull figured out which article it was, the issue was dropped. I found a couple of self-promoting art gallery refs on google but nothing of real value, and Shem seems to have disappeared as well. So nothing going on here but the usual from a failed vanity author. Thatcher131 04:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Just for the record, I think your actions were entirely proper, given the circumstances. -Hit bull, win steak 15:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Recent edit

Just so you know, the recent edit I made to your userpage was to make one of your award pictures accessible. It only had one bracket at the left, thus causing a small problem. MichaelZ526 04:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Boy Charlton

Nice article - I can see a fair bit of work in that. I'll see if I can find a PD photo unless you add one first. -- I@n ≡ talk 04:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't sweat over it - it was only an idle thought (which most of mine are BTW). Whenever you're ready. -- I@n 03:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Pics

Yep, fair use photos of people should only be used to illustrate an article on that person. You might be able to find a pic pre-55 of a medalist in the NLA digital collections.--Peta 05:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I see you reverted vandalism of my home page - Thanks --Steve 05:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Deletion strike

Glad to hear it. Although it may not always seem so, writing articles is the most important thing you can do around here. Snottygobble 05:15, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

VandalBot

Please see WP:AIV asap.  Killfest2  05:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Removing warnings

Can you please help try and explain why this user isn't allowed to remove warnings? All he is doing is claiming I have a vendetta against him, and so he is not listening to logic. As an administrator, can you tell him that if he continues, he will be blocked, and the fact that you're an admin may convince him that he is wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:24.148.67.72  Killfest2  06:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I am coming to you rather than the AIV page because you would understand the situation better than other admins. This user's sole intention is to cause trouble. I gave him his final warning for personal threats, yet he goes and makes a sarcastic remark which insults my work as an RC patroller. I am asking for you to take action in the interests of the community. Although he may not have broken any specific rules with the last comment, he has, however, caused disruption to the community, and it would be in the best interests of the community if you blocked him. I ask for a 24 hour block. Cheers,  Killfest2  06:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the block. A final favour to ask...and this one should be easy. See my archive on my talk page - how do I get it so each month is on a new line? I can't seem to find out how. Cheers,  Killfest2  06:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for everything.

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I award you this Barnstar of Diligence for always thinking about the community when acting. A great example is the recent IP vandal, when you decided it was in the best interests of the community to block him even though they managed to skirt around policy. This kind of community-based action is what makes Misplaced Pages awesome!  Killfest2  06:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

What? Two barnstars in a day? Thanks, although I'm pretty sure that all of his personal attacks, mockery, vandalisms and warning removals had more than four distinct instances. Blnguyen | rant-line 06:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you did twice as much today as normal :D Thanks for everything!  Killfest2  06:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

party pooping?

Uh, is what valid? Shannon 06:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

reply

there is no consensus that a user blanking his own talk page is vandalism. blanking articles and blanking other people's pages is. but if i choose not to have anything on my page that is my choice. 24.148.67.72 06:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Good to see the giant monkey pic again (and that the giant monkey is back to form)! Happy that the stress is abating. You take care man -- Samir धर्म 08:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...again...

...for banning the "genetics vandal". Keep up the great work!  Killfest2  08:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Good to see you're back on deck

Always nice to have another voice around when the ESC entries get listed on AfD. Y'know, it's kind of ironic that the two which have been listed so far were both among the easiest to defend (length dispute for Du Bist, language for Gimme). BigHaz 12:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Glad things are better

I'm so glad to hear that things are getting better, Blnguyen, and that you've started working on articles again - you've certainly made a fantastic start into it too! Congratulations on getting all the red links out of Australian Olympic medalists in Swimming, that's rather impressive, and it looks great. The entire editing community is lucky that you're back to your article-writing self. And if you get stressed out again, you know where to go. -- Natalya 12:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

That's great, my dear B!

It's great to see you in better mood and returning to your true love, as writing articles is, dear B - again, I'm so sorry I loaded you with my sillyness the other day. You are, by far, one of the greatest assets to our project, not to mention one of my best friends. I am loading my stuff on the car to leave for a couple of days, so your message came just in time to leave with one less trouble in my head. Please, take good care, and I'll drop you a line when I return, k hun? You are great, B! :) Big hugs, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 12:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to hijak this thread Phaedriel! :D Hi Blnguyen, it's great to hear from you. Thank you very much for your well wishes, it has been a good year on wp indeed. :) I'm really glad to hear things are working out for you again, it's great to get back to the editing, as I hope to do soon. Keep up the great work, and take care. Regards -- Banes 14:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Dear Blnguyen, I cannot thank you enough for all the help and guidance you have given me throughout my Wiki-career and also your magnificent nomination statement. You have always been my role model, first as a terrific editor & now as an outstanding admin. I'm really proud to call such an amazing person like you my friend. If there is anything at all you need help with, you know where to get me. Cheers --Srikeit 14:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

My propsed policy

I wasn't really seouris about it. I was saying that Edgar181 wrote so many articles in science that he should of already been one.

But I after I got your message I started thinking that it wouldn't be a bad idea. It's a good idea to have it easy for experts(escipally science)to become adims. It would help make wikipedia more scientfically accurate and not just science this could help other subjects become more accuarate. Do you think this a good idea?--Scott3 21:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Duong Trieu Vu

Thank you!!! I hope you are recovered from your Wikistress. :) Kimchi.sg 08:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you and I should step back, return to writing, and let the other new admins since us take up the slack in deletions. Or else they'll never get the chance to prove themselves. :) Kimchi.sg 08:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to translate this article (and doing a good job at that)! The subject's notability is definitely clear now. I'd have changed my AfD vote to Keep if the decision hadn't already been made, but I'm glad to see the right move was done. Cheers! -- H·G (/_works) 23:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		I award you this Barnstar for your efforts in resolving the AfD discussion regarding Duong Trieu Vu by translating the article into English. Thanks for making sure that an article belonging on Misplaced Pages stayed on Misplaced Pages! -- H·G (/works) 23:46, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/United Wrestling Federation (Australia) (second nomination)

Did you forget to close this discussion? Ansell 00:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for blocking User:Googoola for one month. He actually made personal attack on my talk-page. Anyways, Thanks a lot.

*~Daniel~* ☎ has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

*~Daniel~* ☎ 01:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

RfA

No problem; I love helping to endorse and support professional users, because I truly feel that adminship has evolved beyond janitorial duties in the eyes of many people. Thus, I see professional, civil, and knowledgable admins as a gateway into setting a good example. — Deckiller 02:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User_talk:71.139.224.254

User:71.139.224.254 is a sockpuppet of User:CS Diplomat who was indef-blocked earlier today for those same edits to Israel. Kari Hazzard (T | C) 04:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Meetup

Hiya Blnguyen. Sorry I've been out-of-action for a while - the past month has been sort of sporadic, and Misplaced Pages was an afterthought. I've got a lot of catching up to do, but I'm keen to reinvigorate planning for the Adelaide Meetup. --cj | talk 05:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Ooo - thanks for the shiny :) I have just been sporadically turning blue the entries in my list of redlinks... -- ALoan (Talk) 09:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

crossthepond

I feel a little let down by your decision to delete crossthepond, because as is detailed in the wikpedia guidelines, the keep/delete is not a vote but a discussion. Also the fact that some of the people who voted were there for the first time doesn't make what they say any less of value, as the administrator is meant to gauge the validity of the objections and the arguments for the piece, rather than give precedence to the number of people who think one thing or the other. I don't think there is any real reason not to include the piece, and the reason given, that all the 'keeps' were by first time wikipedia editors isn't really being fair. I would be grateful if you could have another look at the article and the reasons for keeping it, or in particular the reasons for deleting it, which I don't think are based on any reason that fits in with the wikipedia guidelines for deletion. Thank you, Thomas Muirhead--Thomasmuirhead 11:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Thomas. I have deleted the article basically for the reasons stated in my closure and in the notes provided by other users as to the new users who came to keep with their first edit - it is traditional to ignore these because it is usually someone associated with the article who has just cruised by, rather than the opinion of a person who has contributed material to the encyclopedia. You may seek a a review at WP:DRV or direct further inquiries to me. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line

:-)

Hi Blnguyen. It's great to see that you're feeling better and getting more involved in article-writing again! Thanks for your work in translating Duong Trieu Vu to English. The article was an interesting read, and I've just tweaked it a bit. Apologies for not commenting in the AfD though; I recently arrived at a summer institute and have been a bit negligent about checking and replying to talk page messages. Here's just an overall thanks for everything you've done. :) Take care, Sango123 23:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Heh... the vandals seemed to like me today, but Samir stopped them with semi-protection once the counter hit 150. Thanks for your revert to my user page earlier, by the way. :) We've just been learning about supercomputers and whatnot up until now; after we choose projects tomorrow, we'll get to actually work with them. :D G'night, Sango123 03:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I can't speak for all summer institutes here, but for the one I'm attending, they mailed out information about it to potentially interested students along with application instructions. We basically filled out some forms, wrote an essay, and created a program based on certain requirements using any language of our choice for an application package. If you're interested, I can e-mail you a link to the summer institute site. :) Are there similar programs in Australia? Regards, Sango123 17:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

You've got mail! Cheers, Sango123 02:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

...And last reply for tonight sent. See you tomorrow, Sango123 02:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Edgar181

I would like to accept your kind offer to nominate me for adminship - I think it would help me to contribute better to Misplaced Pages. I was actually considering to self-nomimate. --Ed (Edgar181) 12:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow! You really did your research. Thanks for putting so much time into making such a thorough (and flattering) nomination. I really appreciate it. I have accepted the nomination and answered the questions, so it should be all set. --Ed (Edgar181) 12:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for taking the initiative in nominating me for adminship. I'm sure that your kind and thorough nomination had much to do with my RfA's success. I've already taken the new powers out for a spin and did a bunch of speedy deletes. --Ed (Edgar181) 01:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Tea

Come by for some tea? --HappyCamper 20:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I guess, I was curious about how you felt about Misplaced Pages these days. I've noticed that you've become very active with lots of new activities occupying your time. What are your reflections on this? --HappyCamper 03:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Blnguyen - I have to admit that I share a number of concerns that you have. I have contemplated many times about the sort of leadership that is needed on this site. Sometimes, the best to do is simply what one does best. I have found that if one observes very carefully, those users who we respect tend to do things rather consistently. It is not a burden for them to be professional. I think it is rare for a Wikipedian to come to this site to learn to behave differently - admittingly, I have not seen a user edit fundamentally differently after being informed of something here. I can't speak for the others, but for myself, I know I have held back at times the quality and quantity of contributions I make to Misplaced Pages, simply because real life takes priority. I suppose to make up for it, I tend to devote some time in real life to promote this site as a potential resource for the sharp and curious.

I think becoming an administrator changes a Wikipedian's perspective on how this site works. Sometimes, I have found myself in very complicated situations where there is no guide at all. Other times, I suppose I go out and look for interesting things to do. In either case, it's quite useful to know how to be flexible and creative - I find there is also quite a bit of subtleness that goes along with a "good" administrator. It's amazing how far a bit of observation and careful analysis goes!

Anyway, I thought I might put in a request...would you be able to take a look at The Tale of Kieu, and perhaps make a recording of the poem? It would enhance the article so much!! Surprise me if you do make a recording :-) --HappyCamper 04:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I have done so. I have emailed to User:Srikeit to change it to a compatible format!Blnguyen | rant-line 01:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about this

I'm really, really, really, really sorry about pestering you yet again, but I need you to talk some sense into IP 24.148.67.72 before another edit war spawns.  Killfest2  04:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the congratulations!

		Thanks for contributing to my successful RfA!
		To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations! To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well! ♥! ~Kylu (u|t) 05:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I understand you were trying to be conservative in your selection of admins, and I appreciate it. I also appreciate that you continued to try to help me understand your position while on IRC and your constructive criticism. Of course, the cost for opposing in a failed RfA is that you're obligated to assist me in understanding a point if something comes up, you know. :D ~Kylu (u|t) 05:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI I responded to your congrats and statement of confidence on Kylu's talk... you may want to respond as well. ++Lar: t/c 16:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Hanoi

Fair enough. I'll remove the adjectives, but the places in question should be mentioned. There is no specific business being advertised. VietGrant 07:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)VietGrant

user:Elven6

Hi BInguyen - I request action against this user for this ,. Thanks, This Fire Burns Always 17:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser

Hey man what's up? Thought I would drop you a line about checkuser. user:Ryulong submitted a checkuser request here, the day before yesterday (UTC). I noticed you also submitted one for Anwar saadat after him. Do you know of anyway to get the ball rolling that I might not know? Maybe I'm being impatient, but hey figured if anyone would know you would. Thanks man! OSU80 00:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Sorry bout that its just some kid with the same last name I really dont like him! I just want to get back at him, but sorry about the trouble.

Confrontational?

Please mention specifically what part of my typings can be interpreted as 'unnecessarily confrontational'. You must understand that a certain measure of rhetoric and hyperbole are standard methods of discourse among Indians (long story why, probably something to do with the weather, or maybe we picked it up from the Persians, dunno exactly). Just look at the hyperbole in the dialogue of a typical Hindi movie and you'll see for yourself... Netaji 01:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Implying another user to be celebrating a terrorist attacks is what I was referring to..Blnguyen | rant-line 02:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Thanks for letting know, its as if I'm trying to get one ahead of snotty and i@n and they then come in and clean up  :) SatuSuro 04:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Question

User:Jimjones05 received an indef. block (rightly so). One of his actions today was to place a long anti-semetic polemic on the user page of his sock puppet User:Jimjones0005 (that also has an indef block). Can we replace it with an indef block box? It's copyvio if that helps...

I'm contacting you since you blocked User:Jimjones05 today. Misplaced Pages is not free speech and all that jazz... Thanks, Scientizzle 05:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

DaffyDuck619

Thanks, Blnguyen...I saw that after I posted the 3RR template. Cheers. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 07:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Mỹ Sơn

Can you translate the Veitnamese[[vi:Thánh địa Mỹ Sơn ]] to English for the my son article? --D-Boy 09:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I will try to. I'll possibly need dictionary help for this one....Blnguyen | rant-line 02:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I saw that your name on the Indian wikiprojects. Your userpage said you knew vietnamese. So I thought I'd ask if you could translate since it was sort of Indian and vietnamese related. If there are any other Hindu temples in Vietnam articles, please translate the. If you want, you could also expand Champa. Hinduism in Vietnam could also use an expansion.

Welcome to WikiProject Hinduism

WikiProject Hinduism — a collaborative effort to improve articles about Hinduism Discussion board — a page for centralised Hinduism-related discussion Notice board — contains the latest Hinduism-related announcements Hindu Wikipedians — Wikipedians who have identified themselves as Hindus Portal — a portal linking to key Hinduism-related articles, images, and categories Workgroups — projects with a more specific scopes For more links, go to the project's navigation template.

--D-Boy 03:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, Indian military history task force has been setup if you want to join.--D-Boy 03:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Template : Congratulations

Sorry I made that template in midle of the night! I will correct it now!--Alexandru Busa 09:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd still say that the Ruslana entry is misleading as all the songs were selected irrespective of what the artist's attitude to appearing was, and I don't think that she was selected and refused her song also. Blnguyen | rant-line 02:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Australian Olympic medalists in Swimming

Blnguyen, I wondered what you thought of my suggestion above. Be honest. -- I@n 09:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm looking into it. Sorry, seems like I've caught myself into a moderation of a messy personal attack campaign on some Indian religious articles, I was mentioned in a bogus arbitration case (though not named as a party), and also had to resign from Esperanza, and reply to a complaint as to my comment on an RfA. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 02:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

updating the refresh clock

you forgot to update the refresh clock on your last update to DYK I think. I have tried to fix it by hand Also, we need to talk, try to catch me on IM sometime... ++Lar: t/c 11:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for being bold and taking a stab at updating DYK. However, a few things to keep in mind... items must come from articles that are sourced, not stubs, and newer than 5 days old. A few of the items you chose do not meet that criteria. You may want to see WP:DYK or the guide for more specific requirements. Again, thank you for at least trying to help. There are plenty that don't even bother trying. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks. --LV 13:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

LV, Blnguyen has updated quite a few times before IIRC... I've been quite impressed with some of his selections in the past. Agree with your comments about general principles though. ++Lar: t/c 14:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

"Don't even bother"? Come now, some of us are writing interesting articles! -- ALoan (Talk) 16:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I think he meant don't even bother to try to update DYK... nothing about articles. just guessing though. Your articles are cool, no worries there. ++Lar: t/c 18:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes. I meant some admins don't bother even trying to update DYK. Sorry for the confusion. --LV 21:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, but I am an admin too ;) -- ALoan (Talk) 21:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

To Blnguyen (what a concept: something directed at him on his talk page... ;-)): No problem. I just thought I'd remind you. I always just double check before doing stuff like that, you know... just in case. But hey, anything is better than nothing which is what we get every now and again. Perhaps I'm slightly to blame, as I checked a bunch and didn't comment on the suggestions page... I just didn't take them. Oh well. I'll try and be more helpful in the future. Thanks again. --LV 00:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Commercial Links in Toronto

I am hardly the one adding commercial links in "Toronto." In fact, I have been the one EDITING them out. Many others have posted links to very commercial sites--while they are travel sites, they are aimed at getting money only, nonetheless. I have added other websites which are not ad-based, with information promoting the city in a non-commercial way.

Please be careful with your comments, and learn to look at the history of others before accusing me.

Indian media link on your userpage

Hi Blnguyen, the current link to the news story on your userpage asks for a password. Here's a better and more prominent daily's link -- Lost 17:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou, Blnguyen | rant-line 02:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

FA

Just saw your post on the Sean Black RfA. Quite impressive self reflection. Anyone that knows their own faults is worth ten of those that know it all. Good stuff.

I also opposed that RfA which took a lot of time to consider. Sean is obviously a very able admin. But at the end of the day the civility issues are the ones that really hurt wikipedia. There is often misscommunication without incivility, not really surprising given the no body language interface we have to interact through. Incivility sets off chain reactions of mistrust, not to mention huge amounts of wasted time and effort in RfC's. Any admin should know not to be transparent with their thoughts in their admin tasks, even if people are really acting stupid. There is no doubt it takes more skill and thought to be civil ALL the time, but as admins they should, and need, to have the experience and maturity to achieve such a task. Thanks for your thougts in the RfA. David D. (Talk) 03:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

{{CongratulationsEurovision}}

Hello BigHaz. Can you look at this template that User:Alexandru Busa created please? I think that Alexandru is a big Ruslana fan judging by his contribs and the POV is shown in this template. AFAIK, the 14 most popular songs were selected irrespective of whether the artist was dead (Domenico Modugno), in seclusion/refused (ABBA and France Gall), so I feel that Alexandru gives us the impression that Ruslana snubbed the show when she was in fact not selected for the show. I feel she should not be there as she was not even selected and I think the template gives us the false impression that she was...unless I'm wrong and she was selected and refused them permission to use her song...Blnguyen | rant-line 02:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

It certainly looks that way to me. A reading of the article would of course show that Ruslana wasn't involved in the show, but the template itself seems a trifle POV as written. I'd make the following changes to it:

• Not all the "participants" participated anyway - Nicole, Celine and Cliff were physically not there (Celine didn't even do a prerecorded message as far as I remember) and Domenico is of course dead and thus couldn't do anything
• The middle category should be reworded to something less ungainly in English - I know what it means and so do you, but the average punter probably won't
• The final category is superfluous - France Gall and ABBA are already mentioned and Ruslana wasn't involved at all. If all non-participants are eligible for that list (they shouldn't be, but the presence of one of them suggests that they could be), we'd have one of the largest templates in history.
  

If Alexandru does have proof that Ruslana was selected but turned them down (I can't find any with a quick skim around the net, and it seems odd since she then appeared at Best of Eurovision AFAIK), then we'd need that category to cover every winner - and possibly every participant who was selected but turned them down. I don't know about you, but I'd be hoping there was a central repository of names on this one if we went down that road. BigHaz 03:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Castes and Tribes of the Punjab

Dear Sir, I am asking your opinion on this festering dispute that has developed between myself and Satbir Singh since the past few days.

The facts of the matter are like this:

I created a template called Castes and Tribes of the Punjab with a view to studying the caste and tribal groups that exist in what was the ancient Punjab region (Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (India), Haryana and Himachal Pradesh). My intention, unlike any Ibbetsons, Todds or Cunninghams was to study these groups from a purely anthropological perspective sans any controversy so that people visiting this portal would get to know about the huge mosaic that my province (I am a Punjabi) is.

I started with a few groups. But soon enough the groups began to increase. For the sake of brevity, I grouped them under Categories. As the template evolved, I learnt not to name any category speculatively.

The final categories were:

Brahmin groups. Dalit groups. Jat clans. Khatris and other groups. Rajput clans. Shaikhs and other groups. Tarkhans and other groups. Others (groups to which i could not attribute any specific status). In the last (Others), I also included groups such as Kamboj, Khasa, Ahir and Gujjar. However, Satbir Singh separated them and bunched them under a new category called "Surviving Ancient Kshatriya Tribes".

Since that day, a revert war has been on between the two of us. According to Satbir, these groups such as the Ahirs (the ancient Abhiras), the Gujjars (Gurjaras), the Khas (the Khasas), the Kamboj (Kambojas) and Yadav (Yadavas) are ancient Kshatriya tribes mentioned in a number of ancient Sanskrit texts.

My own personal opinion is that all this is true. However, some points must be noted:

The Varna System is a topic subject to a lot of controversy and dispute. I have been noticing this in recent weeks. Pages such as Khatri, Rajput, Kayastha and Bhumihar have been vandalised because many people don't agree with the Varna status of these groups. If the Ahirs, the Gujjars, the Khasaa, the Kambojas and the Yadavas are Kshatriya groups, then so are the Rajputs, Jats, Khatris, Tarkhans et al. I did not create a category entitled "Kshatriya groups" in the first place because I knew I was treading on soft ground. All the above mentioned castes claim Kshatriya status. But we all know, how disputable these claims are. The rigmarole that is the Varna System is known to us all. For example, the Jats, who in the Vedic and Mythological periods were workers should be placed in the Shudra Category under the Varna System. But many Jats clans consider themselves the equal and perhaps the superior of Rajputs as adhrents of Kshatriya Dharma. My own caste, the Khatris and related groups such as Aroras claim Kshatriya status. But we have seen on the Khatri page as to what became of that claim. Ahirs, Gujjars and Yadavs are considered to be OBCs in most Indian states inspite of their being the descendants of ancient Abhiras, Gurjaras and Yadus. There is a controversy raging on the Yadav page presently if I am not wrong, on the status of the caste. Taking all these points into consideration and being aware of the fact that there are users (say Sanjay Mohan and Holywarrior, who have caused great disputes on various caste pages, I proposed categories such as "Kambojs and related groups" (Kamboj, Kamboja, Kamboh and Khasa) and "Gujjars and realted groups" (Ahirs, Gujjars, Dhangars and Bakarwals). But Satbir Singh and another user named Sze cavalry01 objected to it. They returned to "Ancient Kshatriya Tribes". I did a little compromise by making it "Ancient Warrior Tribes", which I later realised would also be POV. Therefore, I changed it to just "Ancient Tribes" - A completely unspeculative term.

However, Satbir Singh does not agree. He calls it a "gross suppression of known historical facts", "a crime against history" and "a political agenda" and has termed me a "Vandal". I have put forward my points. But both of us are yet to agree.

I have fighting a revert war with him for almost a week now. Have a look at the template's history page and Satbir Singh's talk page to get a complete idea of the whole fracas.

This fight has become downright silly. I surely don't expect myself to spend my time, money and energy on such a silly matter. And I am sure neither does the other party.

Therefore, I urge you to have a look at the whole matter. Whatever is you opinion would be agreeable to me.

Regards. Rajatjghai 04:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I have, as of now, protected the page to prevent this major revert war. Please discuss changes and reach consensus on the template's talk page.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 04:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Help

I see that you blocked AmericanBeauty2 for afd disruption. Now User:Americanbeauty2 is doing it. I have reverted it twice. It is a sockpuppet of the first one. Please help.--Ávril ʃáη 06:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much.--Ávril ʃáη 06:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Please fix

Looking at this diff, I see that you have inserted a bundle of dates in U.S. format into an article where they are inappropriate, France being one of the vast majority of countries that is not the U.S. and does not use this format. --Jumbo 06:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Tags

Nothing to apologize for :) Just trying to help out with janitorial work now that I've been handed a mop :) Anyway, I used the simpler method of checking protections :) -- Avi 06:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thierry Henry

I just realised I used the wrong button (revert vandal instead rollback). If you check the warning I left in the anon's page, I chose {{subst:joke}} which is more adequate of course. Thanks for letting me know. E Asterion 07:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Con gratulations Eurovision

Hello again,

I know from sure sources that Svante Stockhelius called Ruslana and invited her to perform some seconds of her song playback (like Helena paparizou and Sertab Erener) but she refused because she wanted to perform her entire song LIVE. If you saw Congratulations maybe you remember that they didn't show a video with Ruslana like they showed with all the winners of ESC. Do you remember that petition of Ruslana's fans???

Esperanza with out you

Blnguyen, I was really sorry to see your comments on the esperanza talk page (i'm posting here in case you wish to leave quitley, as Redvers did a while back). I know that on the talk page we disagreed, but that doens't mean that I don't have lots of respect for you and think that you're a great, kind, committed user. I for one am sorry to see that you thought it best to leave Esperanza, and I would love to see you back, if or when you feel you would want to come back. And if you do start up a project with the ideas about protection and help you outlined on the talk page, I would be glad to help you with it.

I really do look up to editors like you, those who are so committed and good at making this project better, and I really hope that you know that I don't think you were trying to push POV, as I hope you know I wasn't. We were just both being bold in our edits, and had conflicting views. I am sorry if I was the main cause for you leaving, because Esperanza needs good, caring editors like you, and more importantly, I think you're a good person.

Your hopeful future ally and friend, Thε Halo 11:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Wind up ?

Do these not qualify as wind up's ?

Haphar 11:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC) There is only one kind of Islam. The kind that blows things up. Netaji 12:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC- This is on my and his own talk page, so is this not a "religious wind up ?" Haphar 20:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Connecticut seal

Hello there, I'm curious as to why you deleted the Connecticut state seal. It is clearly public domain since it is over 400 years old. It seems a bit hostile to delete an image instead of simply changing the licence. Páll 14:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

A sad day

Blnguyen, my friend, I'm so sorry if I've caused you to leave Esperanza! (A fat lot of good I'm doing as AG so far). It was never my intention to alienate you, and I never felt like I was being undermined - nor should it have mattered anyway! You were letting us know your opinion, and should not feel attacked for it, and I'm very sorry that you do, especially if I've caused it in any way. I never meant for my comment to cause you to think that you were undermining Esperanza or weren't wanted here, because that's simply not true. I was attempting to help and diffuse the situation, though it seems I've just made it worse. You have always been a model Esperanzian, going above and beyond the rest of us in recognizing quality editors and brining them some happiness. I am so sorry that you are leaving, and hope that you may reconsider. And if not reconsider, at least except my most humble apologies. Your friend always, -- Natalya 16:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 21 July, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boy Charlton, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

-- Grue  17:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Creepy

Just keeping you updated, since you've taken an interest in this editor: Hornplease 18:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I replied. Hornplease 19:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)