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Hello! Thanks so much for the message. I actually tried to link to ANOTHER wikipedia page on Fascist Italy, specifically this link here http://en.wikipedia.org/Fascism#World_War_II_.281939-1945.29 Unfortunately there has been an editor who has been picking on my posts and that is probably where things got left. I think Fascism and Fascist Italy is a common enough concept that it doesn't necessarily need to be cited/linked from that page, so I don't mind taking the link off altogether. Please let me know your thoughts here. (talk) 17:36, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Comments on Teahouse Response and the Italians of Ethiopia Article

I saw your question on the Teahouse and wanted to try to explain why you may be encountering problems. First off, none of your sources are formatted correctly for wikipedia. Most of them consist of bare URLs. Formatting issues like that makes sources harder for other editors to check, and when a source is hard to check it predisposes people to assume the worst. The WP:REF page will help you learn how to properly format and cite your sources. You should also avoid characterizing significant edits as "minor" WP:MINOR like the additions of a sentence in your 02:50, 27 March 2015‎ edit. Doing so can easily engender mistrust among other editors.

Furthermore, many of your references link to sources that do not clearly support your additions to the article. For example:

Your source for "From 1936 to the start of World War II Mussolini controlled much of Ethiopia, but a guerrilla war raged in areas of Ethiopia still controlled by partisans linked to Haile Selassie and (who was exiled in Great Britain) and the royal family remaining in Ethiopia, including the heroic efforts of Ras Imru Haile Selassie who was captured on December 19, 1936 and taken to prison on the Island of Ponza until freed after the Armistice of Cassibile" at http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-MTO-Sicily/USA-MTO-Sicily-29.html mentions Ethiopia only once, and contains no information on "Haile Selassie" (heroic or otherwise), "the Island of Ponza", "the Armistice of Cassibile", or the "guerrilla war". You should check to see if you have the right link.

The source for "The Italian King Victor Emmanuel III added Emperor of Ethiopia to his titles" redirects to the following page: http://robevan.xoom.it//robevan/principale/uso_vietato.htm which says "not authorized". I'm not sure that this is your source (or edit), but it is an example the type of problem you seem to be having with your edits. (Interestingly enough, the previous link did have some information on Victor Emmanuel III and the Emperor of Ethiopia title).

Your source for "Victory was announced on 9 May 1936 and Mussolini declared the creation of the "Italian Empire". The Italians merged Eritrea, Italian Somalia, and newly captured Ethiopia into Italian East Africa (Africa Orientale Italiana, A.O.I.). Among the war crimes committed under the orders of Mussolini was the robbing of one of the so-called Axum Obelisks" ( http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2002-03-10/news/0203100403_1_obelisk-ethiopian-people-ethiopian-embassy ) only documents that Mussolini ordered that the Axum Obelisks be stolen and that Mussolini "fancied himself imperatore of a modern-day Roman empire". It's a good source for part of your paragraph, but neither the date, nor the merger of the various conquered nations into Africa Orientale Italiana are supported by that source.

Finally, the phrase "among the war crimes committed under the orders of Mussolini was the robbing" is not phrased in a Neutral Point of View WP:NPOV. While Mussolini undoubtedly committed war crimes—escaping prosecution for such only by being torn apart alive by his own people—a statement like that needs to be written in a more neutral manner or cite a verifiable WP:VER, reliable WP:RS third party source.

As an example, "among the war crimes committed under the orders of Mussolini was the robbing" could be rewritten as "Mussolini ordered that the Axum Obelisks be taken from Ethiopia and be brought to Rome for display in front of the new Colonial Office, in the manner of the ancient Roman emperors, whom he sought to emulate." That is fully supported by your cited source. Or if you prefer, you could look for a reliable source that cites the theft of the Axum Obelisks as a War Crime and attribute it. Such as: "The United Nations Commission on _______ has cited the theft of the Axum Obelisks as a war crime." (I have no idea if there is such a UN commission, that's just an example.)

Finally try to assume good faith WP:AGF and avoid calling other editors things like "irrational". That just gets people mad for no reason, and makes it even harder to fix any issues with an article. If you need to revert an edit, try to do so in as positive a manner as possible. Try to use the Talk page for the article to initiate a conversation with editors you have a disagreement with.

I hope this helps you make the article better. Carl Henderson (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2015 (UTC)