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ZSG

i like the critical reviews section in the zsg article, helps establish notability. is your aim to make a good zsg article, or just to keep it from being deleted? you can put it on WP:PR if you want some neutral opinions. i'm not opposed to linking from zombie (if it doesnt take up disproportionate space in the article implying its somehow more significant than king, matheson, romero etc) but others might be Zzzzz 19:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Originally, I was just trying to get it to a high enough level that it could be linked to from the Zombie article, but with DreamGuy's extreme hostility towards the article itself, I appear to be fighting for its life (fairly ironic for an undead article...). I'd like for the article to be as good as possible, but it's not like I have any illusions about it being a Featured Article. :)

I'm currently reading up on resolving disputes (I'm hoping that DreamGuy and I can find some middle ground, but he hasn't been especially good at compromise so far), but getting another set of eyes on the article wouldn't be a bad idea either. I'll take a look at the peer review, too.

Zzzzz, I really appreciate the feedback you've been giving me on this. You've been giving me constructive criticism, while DreamGuy's enigmatic dismissals haven't helped at all (all he's done is frustrate the hell out of me). I appreciate it. EVula 18:25, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for specifying the source of information about Tusken Raiders riding single file. WhoSaid? 09:27, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

The Hen Fap idiot

I've blocked him for a week. Please let me know if you see any more vandalism by the guy. Keep an eye out for anonymous IP vandalism. The fellow also uses these when he vandalises but he's not smart enough to come up with another catchphrase so "hen fap" is pretty easy to spot. 23skidoo 00:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks man! Some of the targets for his vandalism have been fairly obscure (one of the ones I caught had been standing for far too long), so I'll keep watching his contributions page. EVula 04:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Just FYI another admin decided to take things a step further and permaban the guy. Unfortunately that doesn't stop him from posting using an anonymous IP address (like the one you pointed out to me) or opening another account. If you see any more "hen fap" let me know. 23skidoo 03:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Much appreciated. I'll certainly keep an eye out for more spam. EVula 06:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Hen fap vandalization at Momus (artist) using the IP 130.209.6.40 on March 29th... looks like there are legit users of that IP. I also see vandalization at John McKay (attorney) and there is probably more.--Larrybob 18:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Also posts from 82.35.24.169 - has been harrassing regulars on the www.ilxor.com board from that IP. Just so you know.

Two more bits of "hen fap" from IP: 82.35.24.169. One at Sanjeev Bhaskar and one at Jeremy Kyle. -- GWO

There was something about hen fap in existentialism

Just reverted a "hen fap" at Russell Brand. Jess Cully 23:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

People, there's nothing I can do about it; I'm not an admin. I'd suggest bugging 23skidoo instead. EVula 05:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

EVula?

EVula? The same EVula from EV B&B? – Mipadi 02:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

The one and only. :) EVula 04:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Awesome. Welcome to cB! (A bit late, I know, but…better late than never.) – Mipadi 07:22, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Diablo II - Apology

Uh, I have no idea what the hell my edit was about. I think I must have gotten confused (too much editing in too many tabs). My bad. :) EVula 19:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It's OK. Nice of you to have bothered to apologize for a mistake like that, I don't see it happen too often around here... Cheers. :) VdSV9•♫ 19:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Griffin Technology listed for deletion

Eagle (talk) (desk) 04:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

School IP

I have noticed that you have been issuign warnings against this IP. Please note that if you cause IP to be blocked, you will prevent the many good faith wikipedia editors at Vanderbilt University Law School from contributing to the encyclopedia (most of these editors edit under usernames and will be blocked as collateral damage." 129.59.135.52 17:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

False Vandalism Accusation

Re: my Suzanna Sherry erits, please do not make false accusations of vandalism (you called your edit of my removal of unsourced material "rvv"...as the wikipedia verifibility policy states, any editor may remove unsourced materia; Well, I removed unsourced material. How was that vandalism? Thanks. 129.59.135.52 17:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

You removed every bit of easily verified content in that article. Hence, vandalism. EVula 18:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

You need to look at the policy again. The burden is on the person adding the content to provide a reference. It was not my job to do your research for you -- the policy gave me the right to remove unsourced material and I exercised that right. This is not vandalism and thus your accusation of vandalism in this instance was a personal attack. 129.59.135.52 18:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Friends

Pretty mean of you to refuse to be friends with the decent and fun loving students of Vanderbilt University. 129.59.135.52 03:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Har har. EVula 04:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry

I wanted to apologize for my actions of the last couple days. I thought I was being funny, but I realize now that I took the whole thing too far. I guess I just got so into the back and forth that I crossed the line without realizing it -- I regret that now. You will notice that the impersonating usernames have been blocked -- as they deserved to be. Let me assure you, you do not need to worry about me causing any problems for you in the future. You have clearly made valuable contributions to the wiki and, judging by your myspace profile (which is where I got your name) and websites, you seem like a good guy. Again, I am sorry. And please feel confident that I will immediately cease my negative actions towards you. 129.59.135.52 14:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

You know what? That's good enough for me. :) EVula 14:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

T2

Hi, re the "unbelievable plotpoint" - fine, but as it stands it sounds like random editorialising. If we can attribute this view to somebody, with a source, that would be much better. Rd232 00:30, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it could probably be worded a lot better. I'll see about tracking down the exact source of it (I'm fairly certain that Cameron himself notes the problem with that ending, but "fairly certain" isn't the same thing as verified). No promises on when, though; I'm pretty busy with shows for the rest of the month. EVula 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Knights of the Old Republic 2 - links

Hi, I'm sorry I made such mistakes linking from KOTOR2 infobox, I hope no harm was done and thanks for your advices. I'm going to edit the KOTOR2 page in the future, but I'll try to do it as you've recommended. If you'd like to consult or contact me regarding this game, I'll be happy. iLorbb 09:36, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:LIVING

Re this. I think you've missed the entire point of WP:LIVING. It seems an arbitrary technicallity, to say what's not allowed on an article talk page, is allowed on a user page. For instance, its well accepted, to do remove text from AFD discussions (even blanking them entirely), even though that's not explicitly listed as one of the types of pages where its allowed. --Rob 20:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think there needs to be a distinction made between someone arbitrarily editing a person's Misplaced Pages article to say "so and so is a whore," and a discussion (on a totally unrelated talk page) that happens to mention it.

Many distinctions are made for user pages vs. proper articles; just to name a few, I can add as many unverified statements as I want on my page, I can link to irrelevant articles, and I can use the first person (not to mention the fact that a non-notable person can have a user page, but not a "real" article). I don't see a (functional) difference between these exceptions and this particular situation. EVula 22:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

X-Men: The Last Stand

You were kind enough to leave a note on my talk page as well as on the Last Stand page, so I absolutely take you at your word you were being facetious. Thank you for clarifying; that took fortitude, and it's appreciated.

Yeah, as with e-mail, subtlety and humorous comments are hard to do with vocal tone and facial expression. Believe me, there's not one of us here who hasn't learend that the hard way outselves! I'll place this on the Last Stand page as well, to confirm your good faith there. -- Tenebrae 15:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I love being a smart-ass (hence the note in my Infobox), but it doesn't always come across properly. In the online community that I'm used to posting to (where I've been a member for several years), everyone is used to it (after all, most of them are just as sarcastic as I am), so I often times fail to realize how everyone else can interpret what I said when operating almost anywhere else.

Thanks for vouching for me on the X3 talk page; hopefully we can all put this behind us, and focus on reverting loony fan-boy edits. :) EVula 16:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Passive Insults

On the vandy law discussion page, you accuse me of "passively" insulting you. Please provide evidence for this statement; in the absence of evidence, this strikes me as a personal attack. On another note, my reverts have been backed up by a legitimate wikipedia rationale (non compliance with notability standards) and have been supported to an extent by another user, so it is unclear why it should be so difficult for you to assume good faith. Justinpwilsonadvocate 16:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

"this seems like a weasly solution". Not a direct insult, no, which is why I called it a passive insult; you are free to mistakingly interpret it as a personal attack and report me to the proper authorities as you see fit. I interpreted your removal of the majority of faculty members as a direct response to my opposing you on the Ebersole issue; given your relatively confined edit history (and username), it seems to me that you have a blatant bias in your edits, which erodes some of your credibility (in my personal opinion only). The fact that you've opted to post to my talk page rather than discuss Gopple's proposed compromise also furthers my opinion.

That said, I'm honestly interested in working towards improving the Vandy Law article; bickering about stupid shit is pointless and, frankly, I've got better things to do. EVula 16:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I apologize if you perceived an insult in my use of the term "weasly". I was not calling you a weasel. I was referring to wikipedia: avoid weasel words. As for my posting here, it struck me that your talk page -- not an article discussion -- was the proper place to respond to your accusations against me, as these accusations did not seem relevant to the article's content. And I will post my support for the proposed compromise right now, although I do not see why this is necessary as he is proposing that you do exacly what I initially proposed -- that is, listed professors require references that establish notability. Thanks. Justinpwilsonadvocate 18:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Friends

Look at that. I add myself to your friends list as a conciliatory gesture and you quickly delete me. Although we sometimes disagree about somethings, it seems sort of unnecesary and close to downright mean for you to rebuff this collegial gesture. Please reconsider. Justinpwilsonadvocate 16:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Friendship develops in time; I barely know you (as opposed to every other person on that list). I'm not opposed to being friends at some point, but right now, I don't feel comfortable calling you "friend" (nothing personal).

If it helps, I didn't consider your addition vandalism (I have had someone else add themselves to my friend list and did consider it vandalism). EVula 17:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Makes sense. I personally equate friendship in this online context to require less of a bond than real-life friendship and as a valuable sign of goodwill in an ideally cooperative environment such as wikipedia. But to each his own. I certainly do hope to someday become worthy of inclusion on your friends list. Justinpwilsonadvocate 19:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

RFCU

That's ok, no harm done. You can comment on a case, you just want to avoid making it look like an "official" comment from the checkuser admins. Thatcher131 18:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. EVula 18:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

DreamGuy 3RR abuse

Thanks for your comment. You might wish to add your thoughts to this discussion at the admin noticeboard. --Centauri 23:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Spaceballs 2

Hi,

You can go ahead and redirect it if you like. I don't think that would be a huge problem. Here are the links from the deleted article:

• Mel Brooks Writing Spaceballs Sequel at comingsoon.net
• Spaceballs 2 (TBA)
• Spaceballs 2 May the Schwartz be With You

- Richardcavell 22:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Response

I apologize for that last edit...I didn't realize the linked to article had been deleted. As for the other edits, I provided valid wikipedia justifications for every stance I took. I admit, I had a look at your contributions after our previous disagreement. But what is wrong with me speaking up if I happen to find that I have a viewpoint that contradicts yours? If you want to talk about spite, how about you rejecting my effort to let bygones be bygones and foster a sense of civility and collegiality between us by adding myself as one of your friends? Justinpwilsonadvocate 21:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

There's no Misplaced Pages policy stating that I have to put you on my friends list. I've already stated my rationale over that, so complaining about it is pointless, and trying to equate it with being uncivil is laughable at best.

I don't have a problem with you contributing to the Misplaced Pages. Hell, I don't even have a problem with you arguing me. I do have a problem with the fact that every single edit (except one) of yours outside your usual "Ebersole"-pushing is on an article that I had just edited, and is usually the opposite of what I've done (either reverting my edit or voting contrary to what I voted). To me, that's akin to stalking my edits with the express purpose of disputing them. EVula 21:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I will stop keeping an eye on yout edits. I would hate for this to escalate. Justinpwilsonadvocate 21:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. EVula 21:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for dealing with me so fairly and objectively re Justin P. Wilson on the Vanderbilt Law article. It is clear that you are a nice person, which makes me feel even worse about giving you a hard time previously. Justinpwilsonadvocate 22:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

The fact that you feel bad makes it all worthwhile. ;)

All seriousness aside, it doesn't matter what our past has been; I feel that Wilson is notable enough to warrant a mention as an alumni. An actual article... I'm on the fence, but definitely a mention on the VULS page. EVula 22:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

July Firefly Issue!

The July 2006 issue of the Firefly WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 16:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Question

How do I get on the Ambrosia boards so I can be your friend there and thus be added to your list of friends here. Thanks. Justinpwilsonadvocate 03:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

The Ambrosia boards. However, just because you register there doesn't mean you can just add yourself to the friends list; I've known most of the people on that list for at least a couple of years (in the case of Mazca and Guapo, its closer to seven or eight), and I've met squibix (staying at his place on two different occasions). EVula 16:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

So exclusive!!! I, for one, would be more than happy to have you on my friends list. In fact, I think I'll create a friends list and put you on it. Justinpwilsonadvocate 18:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Star Wars newsletter

Briley Parkway

Regarding this article, can the alternate names for the highway be italicized rather than bolded? I have a feeling that in the future, someone might actually try to make a redirect with those names of Woodmont Blvd and Thompson Lane anyway. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, italics don't quite make sense either; I'd say let's leave it alone. If someone does try to make a redirect, they would probably get deleted anyway; while I know that Thompson and Woodmont are significant in Nashville, neither road is notable enough to warrant additional attention from Misplaced Pages, and the redirects might be deleted. Perhaps toss some quotes around the alternate names the first time they are mentioned? *shrug* EVula 15:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

MK Infoboxes

BTW, adding captions to the images in the character infoboxes does nothing, since that's not a valid template parameter. Just though I'd let you know to avoid too much unnecessary work =O).Virogtheconq 19:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it *does* do some good; without a caption, the HTML generated by Misplaced Pages has nothing in the "alt" area, which is a bad thing from an accessibility standpoint. EVula 19:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.Virogtheconq 20:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Always happy to help. :) EVula 20:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Olive Branch

I can see you have rebuffed my efforts at extending an olive branch. Justinpwilsonadvocate 02:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh, okay. No clue what you're talking about, but I don't particularly care, either. Explain yourself or don't; neither much matters to me. EVula 04:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I am referring to my efforts to become your friend and begin a new era of collegiality between us. But I guess you "don't particularly care". Justinpwilsonadvocate 04:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I fail to see what I did to rebuff anything. The fact that you have (seemingly randomly) dropped me a line suggests (to me, at least) that I actively did something, which I have no knowledge of; feel free to provide an example of said action.

My apathy stems from my ignorance of the situation. Rectify that, and I might give a rat's ass. EVula 04:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I just want us to be friends. Justinpwilsonadvocate 04:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Alrighty, I'm going to state this once:

Leave me the fuck alone.

I've asked repeatedly in our most recent exchange for you to clarify what it is you're talking about, and you've failed to do so repeatedly (either willfully or accidently, it doesn't matter). Just leave me alone. If you keep harassing me, I'll see what I can do within the Misplaced Pages system to ensure that you stop. This is not a threat, and it shouldn't be interpreted as one; it is merely a request that you leave me alone.

I'm not sure what your problem is, but I'm not out to "get you" or anything, and I haven't done anything (as far as I know, and you've failed to clarify your claim) to rebuke your attempts at friendship; indeed, as far as I'm concerned, I've been very cordial:

• You thanked me for backing you up in an edit dispute, which I politely turned down (as I didn't feel it was warranted).
• I didn't consider your addition of yourself to my Friends list vandalism (I have done so to other attempts in the past). This may not mean much to you, but this distinction is quite significant to me.
• When you were stalking me, I calmly requested that you stopped, rather than attack you over it.
• I've stated specifically that "I'm not opposed to being friends" with you (emphasis mine).
• You asked how you could get on my friends list, and I answered in an honest manner (it should be noted that, to the best of my knowledge, you've yet to follow-through with that advice).

I'm not sure what it is that set you off this time, but I'm officially tired of this back and forth. Stop pestering me.

Repeated attempts at communication on my talk page in regards to any personal issues will (most likely) be met with silence and indifference. Communication about content/edit disputes should be relegated to the talk page of the disputed article, not my talk page; edits of such a nature made on my talk page will be summarily reverted.

Honestly and most sincerely,
EVula 04:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
(cross-posted on User talk:Justinpwilsonadvocate and User talk:EVula)

I will gladly leave you alone, other than keeping an eye on your cruft-ish contributions to the wiki. Frankly, i sincerely think much of this video game / sci-fi trivia is pretty non-notable. However, it is difficult to countenance the vulgarity of your message to me. Really, Mr. cool computer guy / MTSU dude, civility is a core value here at wikipedia. I was genuinely trying to encourage collegiality between us with my last few messages. Instead of accepting this olive branch, you chose to tell me to leave you the fuck alone. Somehow it seems that this kind of harsh language and unfriendly sentiment seems out of place in a collaborative environment such as wikipedia. Just a thought. Justinpwilsonadvocate 05:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

If you have a problem with the quality of my contributions... well, that's nice. You are welcome to submit an AfD for the articles you don't believe should be on the Misplaced Pages. Reverting my edits for the sake of argument will be treated as vandalism, and tracking my edits with the express purpose of challenging them will be considered harassment and will be treated (and acted upon) as such.

Your opinion of the topics I have chosen to devote my energies to on Misplaced Pages in absolutely no conceivable way matters to anyone but yourself; I would advise that you keep such an opinion out of your thoughts when editing.

I feel that I have been very civil, given the level of pestering you've reached. If you don't, so be it. Feel free to go through whatever Misplaced Pages process you need to for me to be formally reprimanded (I, obviously, will argue in such a debate, but will willingly accept any punishment/reprimand meted out). Keep in mind that there is no Misplaced Pages policy stating that I be friends with you; I'm well within my right to "rebuke" any attempt at friendship, although I still don't know what set you off on this latest tirade (the initial "Olive Branch" post).

I'm tired of your attempts at monopolizing my time by constantly posting to my talk page. I asked you to clarify what you were talking about, and you failed to. Hence, I felt justified in escalating the level of discussion with the "leave me the fuck alone" comment, which you failed to fully comprehend, as evidenced by the fact you're still posting here.

This is our last communication about the personal issues between the two of us. Period. I don't care about being your friend anymore (reminder: you still have me listed on your profile page as a friend. I'll leave it to you whether to remove it or not, as I'm entirely apathetic about it). Do not post additional comments about this topic, as they will be ignored and removed as vandalism (communication in regards to Misplaced Pages content and contributions, though I would prefer being restricted the article in question, will not be considered vandalism). EVula 16:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Would like your opinion on talk:War Machine

As you are clearly quite knowledgeable about comic book matters, I would appreciate your comment on a discussion I have initiated talk page War Machine. Essentially, there are arguments for renaming this article "War Machine (Comic Book)" and creating a disambiguation page, but there are also obvious arguments against this course of action. I thought you might have some helpful input. Thanks and have a nice night. Say hello to Hope Hines for me. Justinpwilsonadvocate 01:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hah! The "You have a message" note popped up just as I was clicking on that link from my watchlist. Excellent timing. :) (Also, I've never met Hope Hines, hate to disappoint) EVula 01:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)