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" anime OVA series."

Found another phrase to avoid. It's redundant. OVA already explains that it's animation, so "anime" is not needed. It's the equivalent of saying "Animated original video animation". You can just use the full phrase "original video animation" series. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 12:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

I would suggest phrasing it like: "An OVA was released as an extension of the anime series on DVD". Normally the OVA is either an extension of the series and/or episodes that don't move the plot along (for fun). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:11, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

OVA is rather cryptic and jargony. It is hard to tell if readers will understand that OVA is synonymous with anime/animation or if they even know what an OVA is. In general, we should not presume that they do know. I'm wonder if the term shouldn't be replaced with "direct-to-video anime". —Farix (t | c) 13:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, there should be a link to the OVA article, so if anyone is confused as to the meaning, they can look it up. Direct to video anime series can also work, but be sure to include a link to the OVA article. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 14:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Don't rely on wikilinks as a substitute for plain language. But another alternative would be to avoid the acronym altogether or use "original video anime (OVA)" on the first use. As for extra episodes that were released as part of a TV series but never broadcasted, I would suggest avoid the term altogether and use "bonus episode", "extra episode", or some other variation. —Farix (t | c) 14:59, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Are there OVA's released for media besides anime? -AngusWOOF (talk) 15:26, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

I think avoiding the acronym would be a step in the wrong direction given how commonplace the term is, especially as it's heavily used by our sources. Introducing the term at first use seems the best way to address it.SephyTheThird (talk) 16:56, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

There are other meanings to the acronym OVA, so it always needs to be disambiguated whenever it is used. —Farix (t | c) 17:44, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Not always, it just needs to be capitalized. OVA leads to Original video animation just as DVD leads to digital versatile disc. While I know you are trying to make things easier for the readers Farix, the term OVA is used more in sources. So if the casual reader comes across the word OVA in the sources we provide, and doesn't know what it means then we would be doing our jobs as editors by providing the info. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:42, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

"Anime" is literally just the short form of "animation", and for some people a lot of people have forgotten that. And the term OVA is only used in Japanese animation. The reason for the term is that high budget direct to video animation is a uniquely Japanese phenomenon. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Saying "anime ova" is like saying "automated atm". --Harizotoh9 (talk) 17:23, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

But it's not something that is obvious to a general English reader. The key is to write in a way that a general English reader will understand, even if sometimes that means being redundant. An examples the use of "Japanese anime" or "Japanese manga". Given the general confusion over what anime (Japanese animation) and manga (Japanese comics) mean, it is better to be redundant to aid in clarification. —Farix (t | c) 17:34, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

An anime fan is likely already knowledgeable about it. For new users, it's just one term, and it's not hard to learn. Though we should avoid jargon heavy pages, a single term isn't going to kill anyone. And it's a vital term that for Japanese animation of the mid 80's to 90's. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 06:33, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

The convention of using the term plus acronym at first mention would be fine like with Yamada-kun_and_the_Seven_Witches#Anime : "An animated promotional video (PV) was released by Liden Films on August 26, 2013. The video was directed by Seiki Takuno. Ryu Yamada was voiced by Ryōta Ōsaka, and Urara Shiraishi was voiced by Saori Hayami. In June 2014, Liden Films launched a website with news that it would be producing an original anime DVD (OAD). The OAD has two installments: the first was released on December 17, 2014 bundled with the manga volume 15, and the second is bundled with volume 17 for May 15, 2015. They were advertised as featuring all seven witches as well as hot springs scenes."

Obviously something like DVD would not need to be expanded upon but there are still plenty of jargonistic terms and acronyms that wouldn't hurt to clarify. -AngusWOOF (talk) 09:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

"Original Video Animation" is not jargony, it's more an example of Engrish. What it means is "Original direct to video animated series". But their command of English isn't perfect, so they said "Original Video Animation". The term is a little awkward. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:33, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't say it's Engrish. Rather, it's a very precise, shortened term for animation released originally on video (as opposed to airing on TV or released in theaters, the only two other options at the time the term was coined). Hence, original video animation instead of original television animation or original theatrical animation. It makes perfect sense. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:03, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Genres

I may need some assistance. After returning to my genre watch (a rather tedious task), an editor has started text walling me about requiring reliable sources before making any changes to the genre. The main dispute is around Unbreakable Machine-Doll when the editor, 赤羽 雷真, added a bunch of new genres to the article. (diff) I reverted the genre change on the bases of it being original research and then found a source (an ANN article) that mentioned the genre. (diff) Afterword, the editor started text walling my talk page with explanations as to why all sources are original research, the genres on the article are wrong/incomplete, that ANN is not a reliable source because they engage in original research and insert their views into articles, that other articles have unsourced information, and that I should not be editing articles if I don't know their subjects first hand. —Farix (t | c) 12:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

There's WP:ANALYSIS which says that the secondary source can add their own interpretation on the primary source (they most often do in reporting the situation). The WP:NOR is supposed to cover interpretation by the Misplaced Pages editors themselves. -AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:28, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

That's the thing, this editor doesn't appear to be willing to acknowledge that WP:NOR applies only to Misplaced Pages editors. If you fill up to wading through the text wall, you can read their comments on my talk page. —Farix (t | c) 14:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Nihon review

Would this be a reliable website for reviews? Link. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:37, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Based on their staff and about page, no because they are a self-published source. If they are to be considered a reliable source, their reviewers need to establish that their previous reviews have been published by reliable third-party publications, which is hard to do when you use pseudonyms. —Farix (t | c) 21:29, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

if it is not reliable then I would suggest it's removal from the reception sections on a number of articles it is used in. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Only used by 7 articles (search), so there shouldn't be an issue with removing them. —Farix (t | c) 22:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Heads up on possible vandal

Be on the look out. I've noticed an IPv6 editor making massive changes to dates on some articles. One of which is Kimba the White Lion, which I've gone through and verified against the Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs' Media Database. I would recommend reverting unless the dates the IP is changing are checked against their sources. —Farix (t | c) 21:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Replace Syoboi references with Media Arts Database?

Given the rather sketchy status of this being a reliable source post broadcast, should we try to replace as many references from it as possible over to the Agency for Cultural Affairs's Media Arts Database? Being published by the Japanese government, it wouldn't be difficult to establish a claim that isn't reliable. Currently, we have 52 articles using Syoboi as a references, so it isn't too big of a task. May even throw in replacing AllCinema references as well, which is also of questionable reliability. —Farix (t | c) 00:45, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Yup. I thought Syoboi was already discarded as unreliable already. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:04, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree. Can you shows us the link to its database? Are you willing to change every instance of Syoboi or are you asking for help? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 13:15, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

The link is on on the Online Reference Sources page, but in case you can't find it, here it is: http://mediaarts-db.jp/ Not every reference to Syoboi can be replaced. However, it should be replaced whenever possible. Here is an example of where I replaced the reference in one article.

Another reference that should be replaced when possible is WebNewtype. I've not don't a search on it, but I don't think there were many articles that used it as a reference. —Farix (t | c) 15:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Is WebNewtype related to the magazine? If so, I would consider it to be reliable. If not, then perhaps not. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:08, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

WebNewtype were planned air dates and were subject to change (record of what may happen). The Media Arts Database's dates are a record of what actually happened. As sources, I would believe the latter is better than the former. —Farix (t | c) 20:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

If this is what you mean by "WebNewtype", then they are absolutely reliable, as far as any anime source out there. Whether the actual airdates change or not is irrelevant. They are simply reporting the information provided by the producers. I suspect that if a study was done, you would be find them no more or less reliable than any other reliable entertainment media source. There's no reason to replace it as a source just because things might change. That's WP:CRYSTAL right there. It's perfectly fine to use them to indicate future dates, and then verify the dates are correct once they have started airing. They are the online part of one of the longest-running anime magazines in the world. They are trustworthy. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:20, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Should mech pilot be a category and are Newtypes psychic?

Mech pilots are substantially different than aviators and there's a whole lot of giant mechs in anime. Bullets and Bracelets (talk) 06:37, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

The article Ghost in the Shell (manga) has been placed on hold for over a week. The nominator User:ChrisGualtieri is apparently busy. Should I fail it or will somebody solve the few issues I noted? RegardsTintor2 (talk) 01:05, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I didn't receive a notice from the bot - but I will work on it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:03, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Future air dates discussion at Village Pump

I have started a discussion about verifiability of future air dates at the Village Pump. Comments are welcomed. —Farix (t | c) 14:31, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Sailor Moon RfC

An RfC regarding the addition of LGBT as a main theme is taking place at Talk:Sailor Moon#RfC: Is it relevant to include LGBT as a main theme?. Comments from project members are appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:48, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

List of Recently, My Sister is Unusual episodes

My recent edits have been here, but would appreciate if someone could do a second hand copyedit for me. The page is looking good just wish there were more details on the releases. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:42, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Knowledgekid87: I must have time traveled back to 2006, because I haven't seen screenshots in episode lists since around then. Last I checked, weren't all the screenshots ultimately removed because they failed WP:NFCC 3 and 8? Not to mention that it's bad precedent, and could possibly incite less experienced editors to add a screenshot for every episode on other lists. Also, what are you doing adding in a link to some site like Loveanime.org? Doesn't that violate WP:COPYVIO?--十八 01:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Loveanime.org is just being used as an external link, as for the extra image, it is very hard to explain to the reader the premise without having an image in this situation. If you want remove the image and try to follow the story and see how well you do. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I didn't know the link was in copyvio, it appears to be the same as crunchyroll's which streamed the series in English sub. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Knowledgekid87: Links to Crunchyroll don't get removed because CR legally licenses series to steam; any website outside of the legal streams are in violation of copyright (like what CR used to be before it went legal). As for the image, does "The possession causes the real Mitsuki who is now transparent to float outside of her body," not accurately convey what that image represents? I don't see how the prose in this instance is confusing, and that the image "significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." as stipulated by NFCC point 8.--十八 01:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I will link crunchyroll then, the image portrays what happens in the series multiple times it is easy to explain once but I felt that in order to follow it an image would be of help. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

If nothing else, I wouldn't be opposed if you put it in the main article instead of the episode list, since it is accepted that character lists may have one or two screenshots/non-free images, but across Misplaced Pages, I haven't seen screenshots in the tables of episode lists since c.2006, or is there a case of a featured list where they use screenshots in the tables?--十八 02:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Im not sure, im just thinking of the reader here. NFCC point 8 does exempt complex scenes but the problem is the person who judges what a complex scene is. I do plan on making a character list so I will take you up on that suggestion. I will look too and see if I can find any featured lists that have 2 images in them. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:08, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Can the episode summaries be shortened a bit? Perhaps getting them down between 250 to 300 words at least. Right now they average between 400 and 500 words per episode and for a romantic comedy anime (controversial or not) I'm not sure that they need this much detail. —Kirt 02:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I have been working on that, it will take time though to smooth the information out. I have been trying to make the length like episodes 1 through 6 are (Counting the words I would say average is around 325). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

There's some discussion about it (please see my talk page). I hope this can help you.--Infinite0694 (talk) 11:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I've attempted to write better by cutting redundant words which possibly include original research(unnecessary information), but he denied and reverted it, so I dunno what we should do.--Infinite0694 (talk) 14:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I responded on your talkpage, did you not see it? The average of the first 7 episodes is like 310 - 320 words. It would be best to work on the larger episode descriptions. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I have been trying to get the average between 300 and 400 words, film plots are recommended for a 400-700 word length so it is below that line. I know it says feature films but there are no guidelines out there for regular films or television episodes. A feature film normally runs between 40+ and 80+ minutes depending on who is defining it. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:36, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't see why the summaries have to be so long, and indeed, this seems to be an issue almost unique to this project. Across Misplaced Pages, anime episode lists seem to be the only ones that go bonkers on the length per episode, typically doing 2 or 3 times the amount that is necessary. I don't think you should be using List of Tokyo Mew Mew chapters as an example since that one has summaries for an entire manga volume, which typically will include about as much story material as 3-4 anime episodes at least, so comparing an episode summary to a manga volume summary is like comparing apples and oranges. You can even look at other anime episode FLs like Bleach (season 10) which has episode lengths about as long as you will find with all the other lists at WP:FL#Episodes. I ask that you at least take a look at these examples, since this is actually what this project should be aiming for, not the overly long summaries which have become so ubiquitous almost since this project was founded a decade ago. Look at List of Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion episodes, List of Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 episodes, List of Gunslinger Girl episodes among others. Because if you ever wanted to take this episode list to FLC, you'd have no choice but to reduce the summaries.--十八 03:18, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I understand that they should be shortened but it is a careful balancing act trying to include the highlights so the summary makes sense, and at the same time trimming away the excess details. Every anime series is different, I saw Infinite0694s edit for example and after reading it found it to be inaccurate. There is a reason why we have templates such as "vauge" as if too much detail is missing then it can be inaccurate. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:14, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Accuracy is important, but you have to realize by looking at those lists I gave as examples that is possible to trim summaries down to only a few lines. What someone who is invested in a series sees as necessary could easily be seen as excessive by someone who's never seen the series, or by someone reviewing such a list for FLC. How do you think that a ~45 minute episode of a series like 24 (season 1) or Lost (season 4), which have very complex and overlapping storylines every episode, can only have a few lines summary for each episode? Honestly, it makes the ~22 minute anime episode summaries that are twice the length and yet half the airtime look like a complete joke.--十八 21:04, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

It is possible but at what cost? I could argue that some of the things are not very informative, as for anime and manga there should be a place in the MOS that gives a recommended size for episodes in lists. I have succeed in trimming down the article to less than 400 words per episode which I said is less than the defined 40 minutes min of a feature film. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:34, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Im reading Misplaced Pages:Featured list criteria 3A "It comprehensively covers the defined scope, providing at least all of the major items and, where practical, a complete set of items; where appropriate, it has annotations that provide useful and appropriate information about the items." It looks like there is nothing that restricts the size of a list as long as it is written well. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

WP:TVPLOT itself states "The plot summary is an overview of the episode's main events, so avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, individual jokes and technical detail." It even recommends "...a tabular format that sections off each individual episode with its own brief plot section (approximately 100–200 words for each, with upwards of 350 words for complex storylines)." Are Recently, My Sister is Unusual's episodes are so complex to warrant 300 or 350 word summaries? I sincerely doubt it when I have proved to you that I can get it down to 169 words below and still retain the most important points.--十八 21:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay I will work on further reduction. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Less than 200 words is perfect. The reason why the unusual sister summaries are so long is you're not summarizing it from an outside view. It should only contain points relevant to the main plot and should be understandable to the general reader. I have to make some guesses at some points because the cause and effects were unclear to me. Here is how I would summarize it. "Mitsuki Kanzaki's mother has recently remarried and is now living with her stepfather overseas, leaving her and her stepbrother, Yūya Kanzaki, home alone. Due to the actions of a spirit named Hiyori Kotobuki, Mitsuki is strapped with a magic chastity belt. Hiyori then takes possession of Mitsuki and masturbates, causing (her/them?) to orgasm. Attempting to go to the bathroom, Mitsuki learns the belt can only be released a couple of minutes every hour". I left the hearts part out since it has no relevance until explained in the second episode. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:38, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice but right now I am too tired to work on something this big. I have been trimming the list for days now and need a fresh set of eyes on it for tomorrow. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:47, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Example

I am going to prove an example of what I mean about trimming plot summaries. I have never watched Recently, My Sister is Unusual, and I am going to objectively trim the current summary of episode 1 down to a reasonable length:

Original summary

Yūya Kanzaki finds himself having a step sister named Mitsuki. At first she is cold to him, addressing her step brother as "you" or him" but suddenly one day Mitsuki collapses which cases Yūya to panic. When Mitsuki awakens in the hospital she passionately embraces Yūya calling him her "big brother" before changing moods again and literally kicking him out of her hospital room. Later on after a rest at home, she awakens to find a chastity belt on her. Mitsuki then meets Hiyori who calls herself as an angel, before she can ask more she then leaps into Mitsuki's body possesses her. The possession causes the real Mitsuki who is now transparent to float outside of her body, Hiyori tells Mitsuki not to worry though as she is not dead. Hiyori then proceeds to masturbate while in Mitsuki's body causing the real Mitsuki to jump back into her own body driving Hiyori out. Dismayed, Hiyori then pleasures her while talking about her big brother (Yūya) resulting in Mitsuki having an orgasm that causes a heart located on the chastity belt to fill up a little. Upset that someone might see her chastity belt she demands Hiyori tell her how to take it off. Hiyori tells of a button that just releases the crotch bit which Mitsuki proceeds to press. While explaining about the belt, Hiyori is interrupted by Mitsuki who has to use the bathroom. While there the chastity belt clamps back on, Hiyori explains that it only stays off for three minutes before going back on and she must wait an hour before pressing it again. Hiyori explains that she tried to finish what she was going to say but got interrupted. Mitsuki suffers for an hour in the bathroom worrying both her aunt and Yūya before having the opportunity to go again with great relief.

Reduced summary

Yūya Kanzaki begins living with his cold step sister Mitsuki after Yūya's father is transferred overseas for work and Mitsuki's mother accompanies him. Mitsuki collapses one day, only to later discover a chastity belt on her. Mitsuki then meets a disembodied spirit named Hiyori who possesses her. The possession causes the real Mitsuki who is now transparent to float outside of her body. Hiyori attempts to masturbate, but Mitsuki drives her out of her body. Dismayed, Hiyori casues Mitsuki to have an orgasm that causes a heart on the chastity belt to fill up a little. Wanting the belt off, Hiyori tries to explain how it works, including a button Mitsuki presses to release the crotch portion. However, when Mitsuki goes to the bathroom, the chastity belt clamps back on; Hiyori explains that it only stays off for three minutes before going back on and she must wait an hour before pressing it again. Mitsuki suffers for an hour in the bathroom before having the opportunity to go again.

See how nice and concise that is? And the best part is that the most important detail has been retained, meaning the reader can easily understand the plot without being bogged down with trivial details. Not to mention that the original summary is poorly written in places, making reading and understanding it a chore. For reference, the original summary is 308 words, and the reduced summary is 169 words. You should be aiming for less than 200 words per episode every time. If you can't do that, then you need a third party to do it for you.--十八 21:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Need eyes on List of hentai anime

Editor Mestrinho420 keeps adding entries to anime that does not have a stand-alone article, despite the list's clearly stated criteria in the edit notice. Believes that simply existing is enough to justify its inclusion in the list. —Farix (t | c) 00:27, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I put it on my watch-list. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:30, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

If you have twinkle enabled then you can use its RPP feature to request page protection of that category. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Users on the loose

Seems we've been seeing some rather weird edits to our articles. Specifically, someone(?) has been adding "citation needed span" templates on various articles. Which doesn't seem disruptive; however, this edit by Benlisquare seems to say that something went wrong. Now what do we do? I was thinking of starting a sockpuppet investigation case, but the edits don't really appear to be disruptive. Narutolovehinata5 09:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Since that editor is purely dedicated to marking anime plot summaries with {{cnspan}}, I'm inclined to believe that they're here to try to prove a point. You don't normally see an editing pattern like this (hell, not many people even know about the existence of {{cnspan}}). --benlisquare_T•C•E 09:21, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Benlisquare: So now what should be done? Nothing, AIV, or SPI, or the latter two? Narutolovehinata5 09:28, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm gonna open up an SPI.--十八 09:31, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/HoEuhophonium.--十八 09:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Juhachi:Obviously, he is my stalker and puts a tag on the articles that I contributed--Infinite0694 (talk) 16:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Juhachi:@Infinite0694:@Benlisquare:We could report those vandals at WP:ANI. Also, if you guys have twinkle enabled, you can RPP for page protection on those pages being vandalized. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:05, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Tagging vandals again

• Vivian Mii appeared and added unnecessary tags on the articles, so the problem has come to the fore again. Obviously, he is the sockpuppet of "HoEuhophonium", so I rolled them back all.--Infinite0694 (talk) 10:03, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

• Added CRE ZE who posted the unnecessary warnings to my talk page and said, "inappropriate use of rollback". -Infinite0694 (talk) 17:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Problems with a C&P move at Dominion: Tank Police

I'm having an issue at Dominion: Tank Police, with different editors performing cut and past moves to Dominion (manga). I undid the first two attempts, pointing the editors to WP:RM if they want to perform the move, however, GhostofTiptoety believes that a RM is unnecessary. —Farix (t | c) 11:01, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I think I've fixed it. Everything is now at Dominion (manga) since the manga came first, and I've restored all the sections from each of the articles (I think). Feel free to check it over and make sure I didn't miss something. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:34, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Terminology section at Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?

Would like a second opinion on the terminology section at Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?. I've attempted to remove it twice times on the bases that any terms that need an explenation should be covered in the plot summary, but it keeps getting restored. —Farix (t | c) 11:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I removed the section. However, I suggest you try to open up a dialogue with the user/s who wrote the sections or the ones reverting the removal and explain why the project does not endorse plain Terminology sections anymore, rather incorporating them into the plot. —Kirt 12:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I wrote up a paragraph under Setting which contains the terms and their general context. -AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Based of the helpful guide section on the main project page, I made a good proposal.

____I created a small guide book on Misplaced Pages that has all of the linked pages in the, book. I think the link to the PDF ( two links I have one is for A4 sized paper layout and the other is Letter sized paper layout) the book should be placed in the helpful guide section. This is good to have this book so , if people want to read the pages on the helpful guide section they have a portable PDF that is ready made so they do not have to create it. I already have created the PDF's.

link to A4 page size layout downloadable PDF : 1 (do not use rendering fails on user domain ).

link to Letter size page layout downloadable PDF: 2 (do not use rendering fails!)

Now I know you guys might say I make a bad looking book so here is a link where you guys can edit the book : 3

Now do not say this is not a contribution. Also, as you can see no spelling mistakes or bad grammar this time because, I am editing from my laptop and not my cell phone, and I am a native English speaker!!!!! Thank you, From, Doorknob747 (talk) 00:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Im confused, are you trying to sell a book of Misplaced Pages's guidelines and policies here? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Not sell its free look you can make a book by going too print/export section on left side bar. Doorknob747 (talk) 02:01, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

STOP for a while every one I have a version 2 of book in books domain, Misplaced Pages domain does not render books good.Doorknob747 (talk) 02:07, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Link to A4 Size in book domain where rendering works  : 4

Doorknob747 (talk) 02:09, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Link to Letter size in book domain renders good : 5

to edit renerable version  : phttps://en.wikipedia.org/Book:Help_guidey 6]

Enough. We don't need this. You're too inexperienced to be doing things like these. Find a mentor, and stick to articles. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree, Door try improving some articles =) These proposals you are making are broad and the biggest issue is that you aren't listening to what other editors are telling you. You will find this reaction on any wikiproject you goto if you don't take other's helpful important advice. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

im leaving from project bye byeDoorknob747 (talk) 03:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

It would appear Door created Book:Help guidey. Not really sure what to do with it, other than WP:MFD. We also seem to be a bad project full of wikihounders here.--十八 08:42, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I would send it to MfD. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:16, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. Someone might want to request some help from an admin (possibly at WP:ANI?) regarding said user and WP:CLUE. --Izno (talk) 16:14, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Originally brought up a couple of days ago .SephyTheThird (talk) 16:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Rie Kugimiya

Could someone double check if the image currently on the infobox is a copyright violation or not? Narutolovehinata5 06:04, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Quoting: "This image, originally posted to Flickr, was reviewed on 4 December 2014 by the administrator or reviewer TBloemink, who confirmed that it was available on Flickr under the stated license on that date." ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:17, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

If you follow the Flickr link, and then click on the "Some Rights Reserved" link on the right side, it takes you here, showing the licensing on the image uploaded here is correct. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Inuyasha

I went on to recreate the Inuyasha (character) after seeing so many reviews of the series. However, the article is still an obvious beta and it needs some rewriting to be a B class. Sadly, I don't have any of the series' volumes so I can't source it at least for now.Tintor2 (talk) 18:59, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Check your local library if they keep anime novels/magazines. My local library does. They have shoen jump, Naruto, and other anime novels/magazines. Doorknob747 (talk) 15:01, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Eureka Seven (video games)

With work on cleaning up these articles going smoothly, I was thinking we could also merge Eureka Seven Vol. 1: The New Wave and Eureka Seven Vol. 2: The New Vision either into one article or back to the main Eureka Seven article. I'm only proposing this since they both are so small and haven't had a decent update in years. Thoughts? —Kirt 19:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:37, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Expanding our library

Looking to our WP:A&M/RS, I've found some interesting people/column/site. I'd like the community thoughts.

• Liz Ohanesian: She has a regular pop culture column on L.A. Weekly (). By itself, it seems enough to me but that's not all. Deb Aoki (listed at WP:A&M/RS#Individuals) cites her. Also cited by Ain't It Cool News (), The Comics Journal (), Comic Book Resources (), Comics Beat (), and io9 (). She also publishes on her own site, KCET (), Paste () and Topless Robot ().

• Brigid Alverson: She has written for Publishers Weekly (), MTV Geek (), MangaBookshelf (), Good e-Reader (), Comic Book Resources (), School Library Journal () and has been regularly on San Diego Comic-Con panels of manga (, ). She has also been cited by scholars. She has been interview by Boston Globe (), and The Comics Reporter ().

• Shaenon K. Garrity: contributor to Anime News Network's House of 1000 Manga (), The Comics Journal (), About.com (), comiXology (see below); cited by Publishers Weekly (, ), The Comics Reporter (, ), Comic Book Resources (), and Manga Bookshelf ().

• Whitney Matheson: wrote the blog Pop Candy for USA Today from 1999 to 2014; it was popular and earned her notability. In addition of having a Wiki article, she has been cited by Entertainment Weekly (), Los Angeles Times (), and others (, ). Her blog has covered manga and anime (, ). Also wrote for Slate (), Mental Floss (), and Decider.com ().

• Mental Floss, seems an established magazine (). It has a good coverage on anime and manga (, ).

• ComicsAlliance: three-time Eisner Award nominee (), cited by The Comics Journal (), Comic Book Resources (), The Comics Reporter (); has a widely coverage on manga (). Staff page.

• Comics Beat: Heidi MacDonald's site; she has published for Publishers Weekly () and Comics Buyer's Guide (). If any evidence of realibity is needed: her site cited by Time (), Los Angeles Times (). The site has an extensivee coverage on manga and anime.

• Comic Book Resources: established comics site, cited by The Comics Reporter (), The Comics Journal (); has a widely coverage on manga (). Staff page.

• comiXology: well covered comics site. Jason Thompson () and Shaenon K. Garrity () wrote about manga for it. Kristy Valenti, who wrote some manga articles too, is fine too as she is the coordinator of The Comics Journal (), and was assistant editor of Comic Book Resources ().

• Genji Press: Serdar Yegulalp's publishing imprint. He has written for About.com () and PC World (), and Genji Press been cited by Manga Bookshelf (), Ain't It Cool News ().

Thoughts? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 05:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Second opinion needed

I need a second opinion over at the Doraemon article. An IP editor keeps adding The Fairly OddParents and Kiteretsu Daihyakka to the See also section on the bases that they have "similar premise". However, my view is that the See also section should only contain links to articles directly related to the subject. —Farix (t | c) 11:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

kiteretsu could be up for debate (I currently have no immediate view) but I see no reason FOP should be linked to.SephyTheThird (talk) 12:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Back

Back but as a temporarily inactive contributor to that project. Will become active contributor to that project when people think I know enough of Misplaced Pages rules and editing does and don'ts. Doing this as non contributing, so im not annoying.Doorknob747 (talk) 14:59, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Merger of anime industry into anime

Hi. I've proposed a merger of anime industry into anime. Please discuss here.--Cattus 18:54, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good I support but, my comment is meaningless in this project.  :( beter yet :

• Project-Class anime and manga pages
• NA-importance anime and manga pages
• All WikiProject Anime and manga pages
• Misplaced Pages pages with to-do lists