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== Interaction ban with Lightbreather ==

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  • Hello Scalhotrod:
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Mentioned you at AN/EW

At Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Hanswar32_reported_by_User:Ronz_.28Result:_.29. It looks like he may be changing his behavior though. --Ronz (talk) 20:51, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I think it a very bad idea to edit-war when your name has been brought up in an open ANEW discussion. --Ronz (talk) 22:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 17, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 00:49, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

@L235: I asked to be excused because I was not involved in either previously mentioned ArbCom case. We're the other Editors listed by the Accused made named parties in this case? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi Scalhotrod, you are not currently listed as a party to the case. You received this notification because you recently offered a statement in the Lightbreather arbitration case. Please let me know if you have further questions. --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 01:03, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
@L235: OK, so LB's request was not granted and I have not been dragged into this case as a formal party to the proceeding. Thank you, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:18, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
You may still submit evidence, if you choose. Any editor can do that without becoming a party (although there is always the chance that the scope be widened later, I think it unlikely you'd be a named party). It is pretty certain that LB will be submitting evidence against you, whether or not you participate, so you might want to keep the pages watchlisted. Karanacs (talk) 14:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Hey Karanacs, that LB will be submitting what they consider evidence of all manner of supposedly nefarious things, we can all be assured. I knew this was going to be messy from the start, but when I saw in the Acceptance votes from the Arbitrators several comments that seemed to convey "it was bound to happen, so let just get this over with", it became clear to me. There won't be any "fast pull of the bandaid" in this case. I will do what I can to be supportive, but I'm not sure how much I'll be offering up at ArbCom. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 14:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Today's articles for improvement

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Nomination of RISE Award for deletion

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This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2024)

An example of home appliances is this washing machine and clothes dryer combination. Hello, Scalhotrod.

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Lightbreather's case: Clerk request

Hi Scalhotrod: The best place for the observations you have posted on the talk page (which is essentially evidence) is the case's /Evidence page. Either you can move it there yourself or I can ask one of the clerks to move it for you. Please let me know which you want to do.  Roger Davies 06:38, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Roger Davies, so if I understand your reply correctly, my request with the explanation I have provided is not being viewed as a procedural or administrative action like the first instance, but additional evidence? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

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Today's articles for improvement

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Sent by Northamerica1000 using mass messaging on 09:23, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

unnecessary revert

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Germany_national_football_team&oldid=661718085&diff=prev Just because it's unsourced doesn't mean it can't be added until references are found. I debated reverting myself and felt it's not incorrect to leave it in-place. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:04, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Walter, thanks for your message, but its because its unsourced is why it can't be added. I've patrolled the Special:PendingChanges long enough to know that a great many Users try to sneak in edits to their favorite teams. Many just try to change a number or two and/or add things "they know to be true", but don't have a source for. Its happens on a daily basis to so many articles about sports, its mind numbing. For this reason all statistical changes need to be sourced. Thank you, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:09, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 20, 2015)

The food industry is a complex, global collective of diverse businesses that supply much of the food and food energy consumed by the world population. Hello, Scalhotrod.

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Lightbreather arbitration case: special arangements

Because of the unusual number of participants with interaction bans in the Lightbreather arbitration case, the consensus of the Arbitration Committee is that:

1. All i-bans and associated restrictions are suspended for participation on the /Evidence page. This suspension extends solely and exclusively to the /Evidence page but some tolerance will be given on the /Evidence talk page to link to material on the /Evidence page.

2. For simplicity, and for the purposes of this case only, one-way i-bans are regarded as two-way i-bans.

3. Threaded interactions of any description between participants are prohibited on both the /Evidence and the /Evidence talk pages.

4. Similar arrangements apply to /Workshop page and the /Workshop talk page.

The original announcement can be found here. For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:44, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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recycling geocentric

Dear Scalhotrod,

The edit I made to the recycling page was in good faith. You deleted my edit because you said it was geocentric -- but I was actually trying to make the page more global. Currently it is primarily showing an American view of recycling codes. I included a reference to the Chinese system which is far more granular and to the work in the 3d printing community indicating a voluntary coding method that is already being adopted by those that print products themselves all over the world. If you would - I would benefit from your reasoning for not including it -- I didnt have a chance to include a reference I wanted to put in - see https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Recycling#semi_producted_edit_request_5-16.

Thanks --Filicias (talk) 10:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Filicias, the Special:PendingChanges feature sometimes bundles several edits together, if this is what happened with your edit, my apologies. When I reviewed it, the edit seemed mostly about the US in an article that is supposed to be about the entire world. So if your edits were to address countries other than the US, I applaud your efforts and encourage you to make the edit again with proper sourcing. Please let me know if you would like input or assistance. I also see that articles exist for Recycling in the United States and other countries. You may want to check those as well to see if they can benefit from your edits. Regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 11:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 21, 2015)

Left: Czech bramboráček, a bread made of potato dough, being deep fried. Right: The Royal Navy Trafalgar class attack submarine HMS Tireless (S88) sits on the surface of the North Pole, the northern polar ice cap on Earth Hello, Scalhotrod.

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Correct

As per the IP edit, I say it was correct at this page. Can check List_of_cities_in_Andhra_Pradesh_by_population, List of cities in Andhra Pradesh by area.--Vin09 (talk) 04:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Vin09, then it just needs to say that, "largest city by population...", "Largest city by area..." whatever and please source it. Thanks, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 04:38, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

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Today's articles for improvement

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Please comment on Talk:Death of Freddie Gray

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Death of Freddie Gray. Legobot (talk) 00:00, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

COI section / word count

I don't think you need to justify your NRA membership here. If you're an NRA member, fine. You don't have a conflict of interest. I have donated to <redacted organization>. I don't have a conflict of interest if I edit their page. I have also donated money to <redacted political party> and to <redacted political party>. I don't have a COI if I edit pages about politicians from those parties either. LB is just throwing mud around and hoping it sticks. (P.S. if you hadn't added this evidence I was going to. Really a shame, because before that it felt like maybe she had turned a corner.) Faceless Enemy (talk) 02:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Please feel free to add it, if nothing else it lends credence to the idea that someone else besides me is offended by it. I find it immensely unfortunate that an active ArbCom and LBs own fear of being severely sanctioned is what it takes to get a reasoned response and civil tone out of LB. By the way, I was granted an extension, so I'm well within it now. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 02:51, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 22, 2015)

Chocolate most commonly comes in dark (bottom), milk (middle), and white (top) varieties Hello, Scalhotrod.

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TAFI week 22, 2015 update

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Jamie Dornan's image

There has been a conflict over the use of the infobox image in the Jamie Dornan page, I'm hoping that a vote to choose a preferred image would settle the dispute. I am therefore writing to those who have edited Jamie Dornan page to voice their opinion in the Jamie Dornan Talk page so we can reach a consensus. I would welcome your opinion. Hzh (talk) 11:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Brian Leiter page

Hi, I am seeking your help for a philosophy page. You edited it on May 16, 2015, but since then a new user, Epefleeche, engaged in substantial rewrite that was clearly not NPOV. For example, there was a controversy section in the original article, but he doubled its length and moved it in to the introduction and added editorial comments not supported by reliable sources. He also removed discussion of the subject's work and positive references, such as his recognition in the National Law Journal. Please take a look. I only edit entries about philosophers and have no experience dealing with situations like this. Thank you. (User:Philosophy_Junkie (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:30, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

User page deletion request

Any particular reason you would like your user page deleted? I like to double check before I delete full user pages, even if it is requested. Chrislk02 17:43, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Chrislk02, Getting ready to retire and I'd like it deleted. I've been sloppy with my identity and there's been some Outing attempts, hence the protection if you didn't see it which should probably stay in place. Thanks! --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Sad to see you go. If you choose to return under another name, (or under this name), drop me a line and I will restore what you need. If you would like to send me a committed identity via email so that you prove yourself in the future, feel free to do that as well. Best of luck! Chrislk02 17:52, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Chrislk02, I appreciate the offer, but I think its best to distance myself from this account as much as possible. I'd be fine with the information and history being deleted indefinitely. I think that's called "salting" or something like that. I'm leaving the Talk page up for the archive in case other User want to refer to it in the future. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
It can be blanked if you like, that way history is preserved but is not readily available unless you want to look for it. Chrislk02 18:18, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I'll probably just manually archive it just before I retire. Thanks again! --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 18:20, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I echo Chris's sentiments: sorry to see you go! I have to say thanks for welcoming me into the reviewing community; it was a great way to start. —jameslucas (" " / +) 18:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 23, 2015)

The term Buggy is generally used to refer to any lightweight automobile with off road capabilities and sparse bodywork. Hello, Scalhotrod.

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NRA lead Do things my way

Please stop. Lightbreather (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Second request, please stop. This - - was uncalled for. Lightbreather (talk) 16:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

<snark>You'll need to be more specific, my mind reading abilities don't work on Lightbreathers. Oh wait, did you hurt something else and you're now under the influence of something stronger than Ibuprofen? Or maybe you'd like to post a lengthy list of sources that only make sense to you. And don't forget to notify a dozen or so Editors and Admins that you got a boo boo and that some boy is being mean to you...
Is that what you are referring to when you say "Please stop." Heck, why don't you file at ANI for old time's sake. Are you bored over the lack of drama over the last week or so? I threw in a dif or two to support my claims, did you like that? Say Hi to Eric Corbett, Sitush, and Hell in a Bucket for me. Oh wait, you can't...</snark> --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 16:41, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Neither of you is behaving well. Karanacs (talk) 18:01, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Interaction ban with Lightbreather

Due to your recent inappropriate interactions with Lightbreather, stemming from the edits made to the National Rifle Association, I am placing both of you under a mutual interaction ban under the authority of the discretionary sanctions authorised in the Gun Control arbitration case. You may interact with Lightbreather only on the Lightbreather arbitration case, and only according to the conditions laid out at Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Lightbreather/Evidence#Case management. This sanction will last indefinitely, and is placed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator not as an arbitrator. Thryduulf (talk) 20:49, 5 June 2015 (UTC)