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Belle Knox AFD #2

The second AFD for Belle Knox has been overturned and relisted. As you commented on the original AFD, you may wish to comment on this one as well. As there have been developments and sources created since the time of the original AFD, please review to see if your comments/!vote are the same or may have changed. Gaijin42 (talk)

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UTRS Account Request

I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool. DHeyward (talk)

American Politics 2

I must be daft...but where is American Politics 1?--MONGO 01:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Found it...it should have been titled simply Arzel. Is there a pattern here...seems after nosuccess in one venue the complatants proceed to the next venues. In the Arzel case the end result of an RfcU against Arzel was mainly a word of caution. This led soon to the arbitration case. In the Collect case, it followed in the heels of a long Afd battle where those complaining against Collect lost.--MONGO 01:57, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for my defense. I guess they don't know my history of working on liberal subjects like national parks, Retreat of glaciers since 1850 and supporting the FAC on the Hillary Clinton article while also defending BLP on the George Bush article where I led an Rfc effort to keep things like calling him a "drunk" out of that article (though it did end up in a daughter article). Pretty perplexing...since most of my work could be broadly construed as related at least tangentially to American Politics, this looks like a site ban for me. Well. Not sure what to say to this matter. Little ole me isn't worth waging too big a battle for so don't get yourself in a scrape.--MONGO 05:47, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Watts

Be careful of 3RR. I've asked for page protection but in the meantime it's best no one be blocked. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 00:18, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

These are blatant BLP violations. I don't think I am close to 3RR though. --DHeyward (talk) 00:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Adding a source is a BLP vio?   — Jess· Δ♥ 00:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Attributing other peoples words to Watts is a BLP. So is continuing to use WTW like "claims" when it's only to disparage the subject. --DHeyward (talk) 00:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Huh? No one is attributing words to him he didn't say, especially not in the edit you reverted, and saying he "claimed" something instead of "wrote" it isn't disparaging him.   — Jess· Δ♥ 01:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The source appears to only discuss what Delingpole and Rawls "claims," not Watts. At least I couldn't find it. "Claims" is a WP:WTW and is not a hard concept to understand. When we can use language like "wrote" or "said" in place of words like "claims", we do it. Go disparage living people on another site if you feel the need to do so. --DHeyward (talk) 01:04, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

(sigh) You guys are all headed for WP:AE if you don't chill out. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:12, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

DHeyward: Your edit here is unsigned so it might be missed that it's you supporting "1". Peter Gulutzan (talk) 14:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Pings FYI

FYI the {{ping}} and a ~~~~ must be in the same edit to trigger the notification. Strongjam (talk) 18:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Dang, I always forget that. Thx. --DHeyward (talk) 19:12, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Stay on track

DHeyward, I collapsed this at Talk:GG. Your recent comments there have been moving past the sources and into examining the evidence yourself, and injecting too much of your own personal analysis. You've been sanctioned before for similar behavior, don't keep doing that behavior. I hardly need to say that GG is a singularly contentious topic under the highest level of imposed and available sanctions as I've ever seen, and (independently of GG) Misplaced Pages's BLP policy allows for very little personal speculation or second-guessing about victims of crimes. Your comments are right in that intersection. I've managed to avoid blocking or topic-banning anyone so far. If you'd like to continue editing BLP content (any BLP content) or GG-related content, be more careful. Zad68 05:13, 9 June 2015 (UTC)