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Interested in reviewing a GAN?

Just put up Ahmed Zayat. Entertaining character, racehorse owner and entrepreneur. Owns American Pharoah. Montanabw 07:46, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Montanabw, and thanks for thinking of me. Unfortunaly, I'm on holiday until at least 20th June so I'm not terribly active what with Internet access being incredibly intermittant. If it can wait until I'm back, then I'd love to! Cassianto 08:43, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps one of your stalkers on this page may be interested! Or if no bites by the time you get back, I can promise to fix all fixes in time to make the next wikicup deadline! Montanabw 16:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Nobody stalks me, I'm far to boring! LoL. I can do a little review there this week on the talk in preparation for a speedy nomination for when I get back if you like. How does that work for you? Please bear in mind that I have only ever reviewed one article for GAN in the last 6 years or so, so I maybe a little slow on the technical side of things. Cassianto 18:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I stalk, but I am not qualified to do the job. And in truth, I've reverted to gnoming, after seeing what has been done to EC this past week. I'm just not certain I really want to be part of a culture that treats is citizens as Misplaced Pages does. I've met some good folks, but the bad ones make me paranoid. I would hate to put my heart and soul into this as a hobby, only to have it taken away at the whim of... well, whoever decides I don't "think right" or "talk right." Scr★pIron 18:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm not here to be treated well by everybody as it's wikipedia, few people really give a shit even if you promote articles to FA and the more content you produce the more grief you get at times. You might get the odd thanks, but it's mostly a negative environment. I contribute primarily for me and the massive potential I see. If it's not enjoyable to you to edit and you can't largely ignore the negative comments and assholes which exist on here then there's little to keep you here. The benefits of content and passion for building it has to outweigh the bad. But we all know why Eric is treated as he is, so don't let that be the reason to stop contributing here.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:26, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Blofeld, ans speaking of the negatives, anyone want to buy popcorn and watch the show over at Mustang, which has been under full protection for a week or two and is going off later today or early tomorrow (depending on your time zone). I honestly cannot figure out how to get two tendentious editors I'm dealing with there to chill out. They both think I am totally evil and I've gotten snappish at them, for sure, but I have no interest in letting anyone run me off of an article (in nine years, I've never backed down from a fight). I know the usual advice is to ignore or walk away, but I've always believed that doing that leaves the field to the trolls. Sooner or later you have to dig in and stand up for something. Problem is, the person on point sure takes a lot of flak. Montanabw 04:19, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

(watching, yes, Cassianto, one of your fans): The article is already under review, and, ScrapIronIV, Eric just patiently waits for that block to go away, I just wait for my parole to go away - only 6 more months minus 2 days ;) - try to take the negative easy and build content, - I have a friend who wrote me IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE once, and it really helps, - I enjoyed the ride on an article with you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Atsme, you are not welcome here so kindly sling your hook. Cassianto 17:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Just wanted to say THANK YOU for popping by. I have found that having four or five consistent watchers who are basically neutral on the article topic is often very useful. There is potential for collaboration occcurring at the article now and I am cautiously optimistic. Please - Cassianto and all stalkers - do continue to keep an eye on things? Thanks! Montanabw 20:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

You're more than welcome Montanabw. I've added it to my ever-extending watch list and I shall keep an eye out for any skullduggery taking place. I see the good Doctor is now taking care of the GAN, but if I can ever help in the future I'd be glad to help. Cassianto 21:08, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Beer O'clock

	Time for a beer award
	Time for a nice cold beer, I'd say. Winter has hit hard here and it is 7 C...so I am drinking a guiness. But I do like Hoegaarden and I saw this picture....curious... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

You're very kind Cas. I've never been partial to a Guinness really; I have tried Hoegaarden so it fits in well with my current destination. Ching, Ching! Cassianto 09:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Now I remember why I seldom go near AN/I. By the time I'd included one post and started to move down to the latest nonsense, then battled with edit conflicts and my appalling internet connection, the thread had been closed! Do any of the regulars there actually do much content work? Seems not ...

Cas: it's barely 10 degrees here (it's supposed to be summer) and that isn't allowing for the wind chill factor! I must bear in mind this isn't a social network, so I'll try to decide whether to do some more work on our latest feminist, have a stroll through the components of a fascinating building or do some more expansion on an interesting character. And I'll have some Chardonnay or a gin and tonic, please. SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:00, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

It sounds lovely SP. there certainly is no place like home. Cassianto 20:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I wish User:Baseball Bugs and co would take a leaf out of Casliber and Sagaciousphil's book and focus more on content and showing goodwill to others instead of attacking people. Sagacious your work increasingly impresses me!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I wish Baseball Bugs would just dissapear altogether, personally. Cassianto 20:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

There are many users of Misplaced Pages who are here to do nothing but comment on others. In a way it's probably for the best as they are utterly incompetent when it comes to writing encyclopedic articles. Best they confine themselves to "safe" areas of the project where they achieve and leave nothing. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I am so jealous. Take photos. Australia is so goddamn far from anywhere...my son wanted to go see a castle...and the closest castley-looking thing is Borobudur....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:27, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Stubs

Cassianto, please find me 10 missing articles on Saint Barthélemy I can put up on the Intertranswiki board. I'll need your help stubbing a few of course :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I'll give it a go Doc! Cassianto 20:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

LoL, you do know I'm only here one more day? Cassianto 14:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you could nick a flower from Andromeda Gardens today then which I started back in 2006!?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

While you're on the beach...

Evening Cass, Tim riley and I have been working on P.G. Wodehouse and have now launched him on both the main page and now at PR. If you have time when you're back from the beach, or inclination, your thoughts would be much appreciated. Pip pip! – SchroCat (talk) 21:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

You're damn right I have the inclination! He was a great author, one of the best in fact! Hopefully, the PR will still be open by the time I get back. As you know from my gloating email earlier, I'm seldom in one place for very long at the moment and WiFi is a bit rubbish to say the least. I have started reading it nonetheless and will meet you at either PR or FAC in a week or so. Cassianto 14:49, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

User conduct

Hello,

Recently it's been brought to my attention that there are some concerns about your recent conduct. Please take the time to review the civility policy and become familiar with the expected level of conduct towards other users. Thanks, Mike V • Talk 22:45, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

What a tedious and patronising little comment... Perhaps the editor who's whining to you on your talk page should do something useful instead? – SchroCat (talk) 22:51, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh no, I'm quaking in my boots here!!! Listen, Mike V, why don't you and your teacher's pet go and do some good somewhere, like actually review a GA or write a few stubs? You know, somewhere where you're appreciated? Because let me tell you, your not appreciated here. Cassianto 05:21, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

oh, and since you're here, why don't you go and do something about the ganging up at RfA a few days ago; a place where I have never been before and one which I decided to visit to have my say over who becomes an admin or not. I see Chillum is reluctant to recognise the incident, so maybe you could. In fact, here's a coincidence! Your complainant was one of those admins!

My point in turning up at ANI was that I am sick of watching those who couldn't give a toss about article creation and who care more about how to be lovely to one another, becoming admins. Once they have the tools they ignore article writing (in NeilN's case he never started), and then choose instead to loiter around ANI ready to console whinging editors who complain about incivility during content disputes. Having wrapped the complainant up in cotton wool, they then turn up at the featured article writer's talk page, eager to administer their first block. The result is that they then gain the necessary criteria to enter the Administrator's Mess and guffaw with their fellow newbies over a glass of malt. Now obviously, that doesn't apply to every admin, but for the large majority, unfortunately. I and other content writers feel the same about this, but nobody bothers to ask us how we feel. Cassianto 05:44, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Please be careful here, Cass. This is the same guy that blocked me for edit warring with LB, and didn't seem to bother with looking at the actual edit history. I made one edit after notification of Discretionary Sanctions, and got a pretty little permanent black mark on my record. I did not break 3RR, but got the same block LB did for her 6th revert. Obviously does not know what it is like to actually create content, and have to work with other editors without the "tools" to back him up. Not even remotely familiar with the current environment. Scr★pIron 13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm well aware who this person is. Unfortunately, he's implicated himself by rocking up on my talk page on the behalf of a troublemaker who felt the need to run to an admin when he could've challenged me here himself. All this because I wasn't allowed an opinion and didn't conform to the sycophancy which went on at NeilN's RfA. Cassianto 14:00, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Please stop with the persistent uncivil comments, such as this. Further instances will result in a block. Mike V • Talk 16:23, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

What a ridiculous threat to make over a nothing comment. Move on and try and be constructive for goodness sake: this smacks of some petty harassment over something so minor. - SchroCat (talk) 16:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

And how else is supposed to respond to being called a troll? I notice that you have not made a similar comment/warning on that user's page. Or is something else going on here? Scr★pIron 16:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

The reason I called you a troll was entirely due to your own throwaway disparaging remark about FP@S's so-called 'conduct.' Allegations, like edits, need to be sourced. Diffs are RS. Your remark it amounted to nothing more than a personal attack therefore = trolling. _Fortuna 16:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

He made no accusation, or allegation. He asked a question. Learn the difference. What you read into his comment says more about you than what he actually wrote. Scr★pIron 16:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

No. He said "why am I not surprised by this editor's conduct.'" No question-mark. Just a full stop. Period. All I read was what was there. As should you. You failure do so- somewhat ironically- does indeed "more about you " than anything else. _Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 16:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

You can assume what you want to assume Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, frankly, I couldn't give a toss. What I do care about is you coming to my talk page and causing trouble. Now kindly fuck off. Cassianto 18:15, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

With pleasure, cunt, and I'll leave you to finish yourself off _Fortuna 18:30, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

• Now Mike Vcalling someone a cunt does deserve a block: can you step up and take action against this editor? – SchroCat (talk) 18:43, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Personal attacks

I have blocked Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi for personal attacks here. The behaviour others here have not been much better. Further personal attack blocks can be handed out if people are not able to converse without resorting to childish name calling. Chillum 18:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Cassianto, I have blocked your account for 48 hours for persistent personal attacks towards others. I have also revoked your talk page access since you have used it to continue to make inappropriate comments. If you wish, you may appeal your block through UTRS. Mike V • Talk 18:58, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Regarding your e-mail I don't think much will be accomplished by me unblocking you then reblocking you. I am not sure what specific issue makes you unhappy about Mike doing the block, however if it is any consolation I was very close to doing the same myself. The combination you removing personal attack warnings while continuing incivility is likely what led to this. If you want my opinion on the matter the block is on the up and up. Chillum 19:22, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry if you feel my message here revealed private contents of your e-mail. However I did not reveal anything here that would not have been revealed if I had followed your request. Since doing what you asked would have revealed this information I had no reason to think that you felt it was private. Chillum 20:24, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Why are you conducting half of this email conversation on-wiki? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

There's something distinctly creepy whenever somebody does that. I don't see the point in doing it other than to humiliate somebody.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:56, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

This is not the peanut gallery. If you wish to discuss this with me you can do it on my talk page. Chillum 22:17, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure you have any right to tell people where they can and cannot comment, especially as it's about actions on this page. – SchroCat (talk) 00:19, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Quite, and conducting half a conversation on wiki is really not on. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

And now the same admin has protected the page to prevent further discussion as to the odd and one-sided behaviour. This behaviour is getting worse by the minute. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

John Grimek and actual content creation

I know you are on vacation (and I do hope you are having a marvelous time!) but if you think of it, I cam across some information about John Grimek, and am looking to improve his article. It is an area I am personally unfamiliar with, and would appreciate collaborating again with you on some article content. The biggest challenges I am facing are image acquisition Strength & Health magazine covers were used in the past, but deleted in 2007 for fair use counter example #8. As he was the subject of (multiple) covers of that magazine and was also its editor, I think it might actually be appropriate. I went into the article's history, and the fact that he was also the magazine's editor was not taken into account when the image was deleted. The other issue I am coming across is that articles on this subject are often blogs or personal histories, and the only biography I know of his life was published in England, and out of print now. Personal histories may work; I have an electronic copy of the Iron Game History issue from which was dedicated to his life after his passing, and induction to the IBFF Hall of Fame. Scr★pIron 14:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Jack Bologna

Grazie caro Cassianto! (I hope you don't mind me removing your kind welcome message to avoid misunderstandings - I prefer to contribute as a gf logged-out editor). Regarding Jack Bologna, I was intrigued to find out where he and his family emigrated from. According to Dickens's Memoirs of Joseph Grimaldi (primary/secondary sourcing?) they moved to London from Genova. Best, 109.146.70.40 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Do as you will, but the sentiment still remains. Bologna moved all over the place and I do seem to remember Genova being mentioned in Dickens somewhere. If you want to add anything though, please do add the source and correctly format it. Cheers Cassianto 21:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

The format is that used on the Joseph Grimaldi page, which is an FA; I've now fixed the link, using Google Books for ease of consultation. I've also found a secondary source regarding the description of their friendship in the memoirs, which I'll add in. 109.146.70.40 (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

RE How not a benefit??? I have serious backache irl, and now give up. 109.146.70.40 (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Having it as "Further reading" tells us nothing; it is merely a plug for the book. If you have access to the book, cite some info from it and weave it I nto the article. Then add it to the "sources" section. Re Grimaldi, I authored it and had it pass FA, so I know the links to Bologna. I saw your edit and agree with it. Cassianto 21:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

In the circumstances, I think what I'll probably do is make a comment on the talk page, with a secondary RS, and then leave it to you (or whoever). 109.146.70.40 (talk) 08:20, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Good idea. Cassianto 18:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

The Duke of Hamilton

I was going to ask if you were interested in expanding this I just started but as Stronzo blocked you I guess not.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:34, 13 June 2015 (UTC)