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Evening Cass, Tim riley and I have been working on P.G. Wodehouse and have now launched him on both the main page and now at PR. If you have time when you're back from the beach, or inclination, your thoughts would be much appreciated. Pip pip! – SchroCat (talk) 21:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
You're damn right I have the inclination! He was a great author, one of the best in fact! Hopefully, the PR will still be open by the time I get back. As you know from my gloating email earlier, I'm seldom in one place for very long at the moment and WiFi is a bit rubbish to say the least. I have started reading it nonetheless and will meet you at either PR or FAC in a week or so. Cassianto14:49, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
What a tedious and patronising little comment... Perhaps the editor who's whining to you on your talk page should do something useful instead? – SchroCat (talk) 22:51, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Oh no, I'm quaking in my boots here!!! Listen, Mike V, why don't you and your teacher's pet go and do some good somewhere, like actually review a GA or write a few stubs? You know, somewhere where you're appreciated? Because let me tell you, your not appreciated here. Cassianto05:21, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
oh, and since you're here, why don't you go and do something about the ganging up at RfA a few days ago; a place where I have never been before and one which I decided to visit to have my say over who becomes an admin or not. I see Chillum is reluctant to recognise the incident, so maybe you could. In fact, here's a coincidence! Your complainant was one of those admins!
My point in turning up at ANI was that I am sick of watching those who couldn't give a toss about article creation and who care more about how to be lovely to one another, becoming admins. Once they have the tools they ignore article writing (in NeilN's case he never started), and then choose instead to loiter around ANI ready to console whinging editors who complain about incivility during content disputes. Having wrapped the complainant up in cotton wool, they then turn up at the featured article writer's talk page, eager to administer their first block. The result is that they then gain the necessary criteria to enter the Administrator's Mess and guffaw with their fellow newbies over a glass of malt. Now obviously, that doesn't apply to every admin, but for the large majority, unfortunately. I and other content writers feel the same about this, but nobody bothers to ask us how we feel. Cassianto05:44, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Please be careful here, Cass. This is the same guy that blocked me for edit warring with LB, and didn't seem to bother with looking at the actual edit history. I made one edit after notification of Discretionary Sanctions, and got a pretty little permanent black mark on my record. I did not break 3RR, but got the same block LB did for her 6th revert. Obviously does not know what it is like to actually create content, and have to work with other editors without the "tools" to back him up. Not even remotely familiar with the current environment. Scr★pIron13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm well aware who this person is. Unfortunately, he's implicated himself by rocking up on my talk page on the behalf of a troublemaker who felt the need to run to an admin when he could've challenged me here himself. All this because I wasn't allowed an opinion and didn't conform to the sycophancy which went on at NeilN's RfA. Cassianto14:00, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
What a ridiculous threat to make over a nothing comment. Move on and try and be constructive for goodness sake: this smacks of some petty harassment over something so minor. - SchroCat (talk) 16:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
And how else is supposed to respond to being called a troll? I notice that you have not made a similar comment/warning on that user's page. Or is something else going on here? Scr★pIron16:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
The reason I called you a troll was entirely due to your own throwaway disparaging remark about FP@S's so-called 'conduct.' Allegations, like edits, need to be sourced. Diffs are RS. Your remark it amounted to nothing more than a personal attack therefore = trolling. Fortuna16:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
He made no accusation, or allegation. He asked a question. Learn the difference. What you read into his comment says more about you than what he actually wrote. Scr★pIron16:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
No. He said "why am I not surprised by this editor's conduct.'" No question-mark. Just a full stop. Period. All I read was what was there. As should you. You failure do so- somewhat ironically- does indeed "more about you " than anything else. FortunaImperatrix Mundi16:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I have blocked Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi for personal attacks here. The behaviour others here have not been much better. Further personal attack blocks can be handed out if people are not able to converse without resorting to childish name calling. Chillum18:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Cassianto, I have blocked your account for 48 hours for persistent personal attacks towards others. I have also revoked your talk page access since you have used it to continue to make inappropriate comments. If you wish, you may appeal your block through UTRS. Mike V • Talk18:58, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
There's something distinctly creepy whenever somebody does that. I don't see the point in doing it other than to humiliate somebody.♦ Dr. Blofeld20:56, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
This is not the peanut gallery. If you wish to discuss this with me you can do it on my talk page. Chillum22:17, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure you have any right to tell people where they can and cannot comment, especially as it's about actions on this page. – SchroCat (talk) 00:19, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
And now the same admin has protected the page to prevent further discussion as to the odd and one-sided behaviour. This behaviour is getting worse by the minute. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
@Mike V: The blocking policy says that disabling a user's access to their talk page "is not checked by default, and typically should not be checked; editing of the user's talk page should be disabled only in the case of continued abuse of the talk page" (emphasis mine). As such, I'm going to restore Cassianto's access—leaving the block in place—before I go to bed tonight unless you have a policy-based objection. Best, Ed03:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
And I've now done so. Cassianto, please don't continue the same behavior and make me look like a fool. Ed08:27, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
In terms of my "behaviour" I shall change nothing. If someone trolls me, I am entitled to tell them to fuck off. Don't worry, my reasons for not posting here - or anywhere in fact - is because I am on holiday. The only "behaviour" that should be in question is that of Chillum and MikeV. As I've said previously Ed, thank you, and that goes to all others who have supported me through this. Cassianto08:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Jack Bologna
Grazie caro Cassianto! (I hope you don't mind me removing your kind welcome message to avoid misunderstandings - I prefer to contribute as a gf logged-out editor). Regarding Jack Bologna, I was intrigued to find out where he and his family emigrated from. According to Dickens's Memoirs of Joseph Grimaldi (primary/secondary sourcing?) they moved to London from Genova. Best, 109.146.70.40 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Do as you will, but the sentiment still remains. Bologna moved all over the place and I do seem to remember Genova being mentioned in Dickens somewhere. If you want to add anything though, please do add the source and correctly format it. Cheers Cassianto21:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
The format is that used on the Joseph Grimaldi page, which is an FA; I've now fixed the link, using Google Books for ease of consultation. I've also found a secondary source regarding the description of their friendship in the memoirs, which I'll add in. 109.146.70.40 (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Having it as "Further reading" tells us nothing; it is merely a plug for the book. If you have access to the book, cite some info from it and weave it I nto the article. Then add it to the "sources" section. Re Grimaldi, I authored it and had it pass FA, so I know the links to Bologna. I saw your edit and agree with it. Cassianto21:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
In the circumstances, I think what I'll probably do is make a comment on the talk page, with a secondary RS, and then leave it to you (or whoever). 109.146.70.40 (talk) 08:20, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
I was going to ask if you were interested in expanding this I just started but as Stronzo blocked you I guess not.♦ Dr. Blofeld12:34, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Your talk page protection is being discussed at WP:ANI
I briefly thought Misplaced Pages had been taken over by Himmler or Pol Pot. Glad to see you're now acknowledged again as existing. Meanwhile, P. G. Wodehouse is at PR, courtesy of self and another old lag. All comments gladly received once you're back from your break. Tim riley talk20:35, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
The full-protection of this page was certainly debatable and has been reverted, but that sort of analogy is distasteful. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:07, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
I appreciate the thought, but as I've stated elsewhere, RfA is for those not wishing to improve the encyclopaedia and is instead geared for massaging egos and adding to sycophancy. For those reasons I shall decline your invitation. Cassianto11:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Mates rates. Chillum, why don't you share Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi's email asking for the block to be removed? Presumably that must've happened? Cassianto17:23, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I am not sure why you are pinging me or what this has to do with you. I blocked a user for personal attacks and this user responded in a mature fashion that led me to believe the block was not preventative any more. Are you suggesting that I should not reverse my own blocks without some sort of special process? Chillum19:55, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
We all know how to avoid being blocked for too long for being displaying obnoxious behaviour in calling someone a cunt. Good work! - SchroCat (talk) 19:59, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
If you think my unblock was inappropriate you are welcome on my talk page or if you prefer you can seek a wider review. Chillum20:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Your justification for unblocking FIM was flawed and without justification. I noticed you said on your talk page "nobody likes to be refused an unblock request", referring to me. Let's get this clear: I wasn't refused and I never asked to be unblocked. Where do you get your facts from? Cassianto20:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
He clearly thinks it helps, but we all know that his under the counter behaviour has been at the heart of the problem here. FWIW, I didn't ask him to do this, but he felt the need to embarrass himself just one last time. Cassianto13:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
I just bury myself in article work at times like these....and tune out of discussion and drama pages. I generally find if i look for any length of time I find myself getting annoyed....and I edit here to relax.... Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 13:51, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Well said. I spend no time at any of the various dramah spots as they are just not worth it. They seem to be occupied by a strage bunch who do little to actually improve anything, but spend their time bitching an sniping at one another, or preening themselves and thinking how good they are - nothing useful in actually building an encyclopaedia. Those places are providers of nothing but grief for most! - SchroCat (talk) 13:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
That is, of course, the best way Cas. But these fuckwits then keep a watch on you like MI5 and pounce should you even so much as challenge a troublesome do-gooder who rocks up on your FAC to enforce a slice of POV, or an infobox onto all your hard work. Cassianto14:09, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Perish the thought. Article writing has always come second best to civility, which in itself comes as a by-product to the former. What the civility police don't realise is that without the article writing in the first place, their entire existence would cease as there would be no Misplaced Pages. That is why content creation is a whole lot more important than telling someone to fuck off. Cassianto08:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, but cussing others out doesn't help much though it may feel good. I don't see what you attain by calling The Rambling Man stupid. And what you say about "article writing has always come second" is really not true--you'd have been blocked for "fuck off" already. I think I closed an ANI report on you a couple of days ago (who the hell knows, there's so many Cs here--Cassianto, Casliber, Corbett...), and I really don't like seeing such reports anyway. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 01:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
LoL, The Rambling Man stupid? No, no, no. I have the utmost respect for TRM. I certainly wouldn't say anything of the sort to him. The ANI report was not on me, unless of course it was and I wasn't told about it. Nothing would surprise me with this place anymore. Cassianto, Casliber, Corbett? There's a film in there somewhere :-) Cassianto07:09, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
I'd go with that! Incidentally, and I should point out, Cas should be known as "The Good" within my film suggestion :-) I'll have to fight Eric for "The Ugly" part as I think most would consider us both to be bad! Cassianto12:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Irony is part of this game and was mentioned - sort of - three years ago already, just click on the date for a feeling of the good old days, then "life's mundane subjects, mixed with comic songs and surreal observations", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
(ec) I came to say about the same about the arb case in which I was found guilty of systematically adding content ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
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I have seen that you have contributed a lot to article creation. But please don't use swear/indecent words in talk pages. And don't see blocks as punishment. Even @SchroCat: has made huge contribution to articles. Joking/taunts without any cuss words can be allowed if they are not personal attacks. You see movies have ratings like PG-13, Universal according to profanity. It's not nice that two valuable contributors of Misplaced Pages will have such block logs. I think you know how to deal with such users WP:DNFTTWP:DNIV. You are blocked mostly for personal attacks, Schrocat for Edit Warring. Problem is that during Edit War, administrators don't check which side is correct WP:CIRCUS. You know you are right and the other user is wrong, but still the administrator will give warnings to both of you. Due to 3-revert rule if you revert for 4th time, you will be blocked, even if you have improved the article. Administrators can't be expected to have knowledge about every field from Arts, Sports, History, Geography, Science, Movies, Commerce, Crime, Technology, Politics, Economics and pass their judgement: "This edit is correct, that edit is correct".
I really don't care who you are, but don't ping me and lecture me: You'll get an earful next time you do. Word of advice: don't try and stir up fucking trouble when it's all caling down: it will only ever piss people off and get them riled, especially when it's nothing to do with you. - SchroCat (talk) 07:10, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
In my ten years or so on the project, my experience has been that people with the user name "Emperor" or "King" more often than not only meet that descriptor in their "Holier than Thou" attitude. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't know why you think you're qualified to come here and start offering me your sage advice. I don't care for it and even if I did, then I certainly wouldn't be asking it from you. Your sole intention here is to stir up trouble, and I had enough of that yesterday. I've never heard of you and I can only assume you're trying to troll me again. This arguement died a death yesterday so I'd kindly ask for you to go away and do something more constructive with your time. That would of course be the more polite way of telling you to fuck off. Cassianto08:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
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Welcome back
Hope you're well, glad to see things cooling down around here. The offer still stands, if you need assistance in the future with disruptive editors than please drop me a line, there's much we can do. Meanwhile, where's that beer? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:16, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
All's good and thanks for the offer. There was a bit of stupidity earlier, but they soon crawled back under the stone they came from. That beer is chilling in a tap near me. We'll sort something out soon. Cassianto21:38, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Beadle
Hello Cassianto, how are you? I wonder if I might be able to tempt you to look in at the peer review for Sir Hugh Beadle. If you can find a few minutes any thoughts would be very much appreciated. Cheers and I hope you're well. Have a great week. — Cliftonian(talk)08:25, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
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