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One more thing: I see that you have added archive links to the citations in several pages. Archive links should not be added unless the linked page is gone and no other page will do. ] often automatically add archive links when needed. I have undone your revisions; in the future, please use the () to find dead links, and only add archive links for links that show up in red. Happy editing! —] <sup>(])</sup> 02:14, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

== Questions about Archive.is ==
Hello! I noticed that you are the owner of Archive.is (from the talk page at ]). I have a few questions:
* Can you create a gadget for Misplaced Pages in order to show the archived link near each external link? (since you archived automatically all the external links last year). If yes, then can you archive the Misplaced Pages's external links automatically each month or so, from now on?
* Can you create a Bookmarklet for archiving links with Archive.is, like WebCite's bookmarklet - ] ?
* Can you create a way like the WikiWix gadget for archiving an external link automatically, just by clicking the first time on it's Archive.is link? (I detailed how WikiWix gadget works at ])
Such things would be extremely useful, in my view.
Thank you. — ] (]) 19:22, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

:* Do you mean something like ] ? It is already there, but not very popular.
:* There is a bookmarklet: '''<span style="background:#e0e0e0"><nowiki>javascript:void(open('http://archive.is/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(document.location)))</nowiki></span>''' (or drag the same link from the top of http://archive.is/ to your toolbar).
:* New external links are being archived constantly, approximately each 30-60 minutes (because there are a lot of wikis and they checked sequentially). So, it seems needless to wait for a click.
:] (]) 13:07, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

:: Thanks for your answers. Sorry I haven't checked for your reply after 28 of July, so only now I have seen it. I have readed the ] and I don't really understand how to use "Your own style sheets". Probably that's the way to create a gadget. The user should be able to activate a gadget which will add after each external link a link to the archive.is archive. That would be awesome. Currently, at Romanian Misplaced Pages we are using the WikiWix Gadget (made by ]) which is doing that, but the site (WikiWix) is not working well.
:: And another question: can you also archive automatically the external links which are in the talk pages? For example, at ] (talk page of the article about the Romanian president) there are a lot of links containing useful data, waiting to be inserted into the article). Until someone will add the data into the article, it would be very nice to make sure the information is not lost.
:: Thank you. — ] (]) 10:01, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
::: You are right, saving links from the Talk: space can have sense. I will add it soon. ] (]) 04:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
That's the best news I got in a while! There are many many newspaper articles links gathered in such pages, like for example in ] - the former dictator of Romania, ] or ] - about ]. Please, include the category talk pages too (the last example is in a category talk page). Thank you very much! — ] (]) 09:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

==Dating archive==
Hi, many thanks for supplying the archive URLs for dead links. Would be good if you could use the appropriate date format for the archive date rather than always using ISO date. If you look at the references then you should be able to determine if day first or month first is more appropriate than ISO. If all dates are in same format adding a date out of sync with the rest is not good practice, many articles use a mixture so go with the most common. ] (]) 18:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
:Ok. ] (]) 21:08, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


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== faktaomfartyg.nu -> faktaomfartyg.se ==

Hi Rotlink; I notice that you added archive links to several faktamofartyg.nu references, as the site is dead - this is indeed the case; however, faktaomfartyg.nu was simply replaced (again) by faktaomfartyg.se and the URLs stay otherwise the same - so e.g. what was formerly http://www.faktaomfartyg.nu/superfast_X_2002.htm is now http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/superfast_X_2002.htm . So I think it would be best to replace the links with the working ones to the current site, as the pages for individual ships obviously don't get updated in the archive. Thanks for your work and if you could do this, that would be great :-) ] (]) 16:17, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
:Ah, OK. Just run the replacer for faktaomfartyg.nu -> faktaomfartyg.se. ] (]) 16:34, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
:Some (less than 10) links to th old site (faktaomfartyg.nu) are left because of missynchronization of my index and the real Misplaced Pages content, they will be replaced as well as soon as the index will be rebuilt (24-48 hours). ] (]) 17:50, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

== Problémy na cs ==

Ahoj, Váš bot byl na cs zablokován, zdůvodnění v ]. --] (]) 13:08, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

== Please respond ==

Quoted from ]:
: ''It very much looks like Archive.is keeps only the newest shots when it archives external links automatically. It archives the external links once in a while, discarding the old archived versions. In the end, it's archiving dead links. And that is very bad. I detailed the process at ]. The owner of Archive.is probably doesn't realize that the program deletes old versions. — Ark25 (talk) 00:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)''
] I've tried to reach you on http://blog.archive.is/ask , by email, and now here. Can you respond? --] (]) 02:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

:Responded there. Thank you for pointing to the topic. I received only one email from you (with the question about re-archiving and typo fixes), responded to it asking for the examples, and that's all. ] (]) 03:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

== spam ==

your changing of a dead link here http://da.wikipedia.org/search/?title=M%27diq&curid=589701&diff=7254795&oldid=7241612 (http://archive.is/20130412043512/http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=&men=gpro&lng=en&des=wg&geo=-6489&srt=npan&col=adhoq&msz=1500&pt=c&va=&geo=452501468) are a redirect to http://www.planet49.dk/cgi-bin/wingame.pl?partner_pk=7&wingame_pk=43&sub_id=425821&ce_cid=20iONj00HEXq3WNG3sf.cC1vb1uo000, when i clik later is it a redirec to http://gazetteer.de/wg.php?x=1162128716&men=gcis&lng=fr&dat=32&geo=-134&srt=npan&col=aohdq&pt=c&va=x and first time was it a redirect to http://www.chinawomendating.asia/?afid=17704&subafid=123234862_CAMP007. what is with all the spamlinks?? --] (]) 11:52, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

:There is no any redirects . Maybe you have to check you computer with an antivirus? ] (]) 12:17, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
::i have already did. what have antivirus to do with this? --] (]) 12:32, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:::There could be something like ] on your side. ] (]) 12:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
::::OMG, i am already making an antiviruse scan but i dont know if it can delete it. some help? --] (]) 12:40, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::planet49.dk seems to be a scam site , but I did not found yet any topics about malware associated with them. ] (]) 12:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::So how do i come off with the DNSChanger? --] (]) 18:19, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

== BRFA withdrawn ==

Hi! An editor interpreted your BRFA as withdrawn after you removed it from the ] page. Just wondering if this is what you intended to do? Thanks. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;&nbsp;▎]</small> 19:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:I need time to rewrite the description, it is too unclear. ] (]) 01:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

== Another Barnstar for you! ==
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Please accept this archiver's Barnstar for your huge help on keeping the Misplaced Pages references alive. Many thanks! — ] (]) 02:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

== Automated editing ==

Hi! Per ] you can be blocked for unapproved automated editing. You've already done so with a bot and now you are continuing (albeit low-speed) on your main account. Your task is very beneficial, but it is not a reason alone to circumvent our processes that are there for a reason. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;&nbsp;▎]</small> 16:50, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
:Hi. It is actually a single change (caused by chartstats.com decision to remove the content) which occurs on many (~1500) pages. There is even no bot heuristic to be supervised. I hit a chartstats.com dead link reading Misplaced Pages, fixed it on one page and tell the script to do the same change elsewhere. ] (]) 17:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
::That is the definition of an unsupervised script (regardless of the actual function) that requires a separate account and should any disputes arise the method will be ]. 1500 is not a few pages, we have full bot approvals for half that. I'm just letting you know you are breaking policy, I won't take it anywhere further. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;&nbsp;▎]</small> 17:46, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

== The robot ignores www.monitorulexpres.ro newspaper ==
Hello again! I would like to ask you why the news on ] are not archived? For example at the ] article, this link: http://www.monitorulexpres.ro/?mod=monitorulexpres&a=citeste&p=economic&s_id=45199 (the second reference). It's there since 2010. Thanks. — ] (]) 09:05, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:Hi! It is archived: http://archive.is/Hk4jC ] (]) 10:02, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:: Right. ] had an unnecessary transformation of "&" into "%26". Thanks again! — ] (]) 16:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

== Blocked ==

<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> ] You have been ''']''' '''indefinitely''' from editing for continued use of unapproved bots. Your edits today constitute a proxy attack on Misplaced Pages, with anonymous edits from all over the globe creating links to your site. Your bot to do so was blocked as unapproved. Resorting to proxy abuse was not the solution.. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may ] by adding the following text below this notice: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;''}}. However, you should read the ] first. </div><!-- Template:uw-block -->&mdash;](]) 18:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

This issue is being discussed at ].&mdash;](]) 18:43, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

*''Indefinite'' block, with no prior attempt to discuss, is '''not appropriate''' use of admin tools, nor appropriate admin behavior. Discussion is an appropriate action, as would be a ''short'' block, with unrestricted permission and invitation to discuss on an ''appropriate'' Talk page. We need to exhibit proper respect for someone who has shown considerable dedication to meeting and exceeding the archival abilities of both archive.org and webcitation.org ''mainly for Misplaced Pages's use''. All that's missing from archive.is's CV is longevity. '''Let's not stab the wild gift horse in the heart, thanks. Let's instead bring in the horse ''whisperer.'' ''' --] (]) 08:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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