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Translated from Hebrew Misplaced Pages --Midrashah (talk) 15:40, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

This article is a mess, and it would probably be best to delete it and start over again. Hznhr (talk) 05:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The entire first paragraph (excepting the first sentence, that I fixed) on Homosexuality makes no sense. Of course the prohibition on lesbianism is not from the same source as the prohibition on male relations. Much of the article is unreferenced. The part of emission should start with the prohibition against arousing the libido, which is the source prohibition, then go to directly causing emission. Should this be RfD'd?

P.S. I disagree with the banner. There is no list of references, just some external links.Mzk1 (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

What Maimonides stated

We have a reliable source written by a professor from American Jewish University who stated what Maimonides has written. A direct reference to Maimonides' work is prohibited by WP:OR and WP:PRIMARY. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:26, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

See salso WP:BURDEN. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:33, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

His work has been published by Jewish Publication Society. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

We have to distinguish an empiric-analytical claim about the texts written by Maimonides from a theological claim which would require assent from a community of faith. So, unless someone is prepared to affirm that this claim was made up (and prove it with reliable sources), Misplaced Pages defaults to keeping it per WP:VER. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Non-halakhic (non-Orthodox) Judaism

Thiss article reads like it was written by Shmuley Boteach (an Orthodox rabbi who has written on sexuality). It's all Orthodox. There are millions who call themselves Jews who reject halakha partially or totally. Our views deserve inclusion.

On the same topic, there are quite a few people who by religious law are unquestionably Jews, who reject Judaism as a personal religion and would probably answer "no" if asked "are you a Jew?". Yet they are unquestionably of Jewish descent and culture, and halakhicly Jews no matter what they said or did. Among them are many sexual innovators and radicals: among others, Sigmund Freud, Magnus Hirschfeld, Wilhelm Reich, Ruth Westheimer (a Haganah sharpshooter), even Annie Sprinkle, Nina Hartley, Al Goldstein, Harry Reems, Jamie Gillis, Ron Jeremy, Philip Roth, Erica Jong, and we shouldn't forget Emma Goldman. (Who could forget her?) See "The Jewish Masters of Porn", http://jewishfaces.com/porn.html. This is a simcha (joy), not a shonda (disgrace), and needs treatment somewhere. deisenbe (talk) 20:14, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

I can agree with your first point, but you are wrong on the second, for the simple reason that this article is not about Jews and sexuality, but about Judaism and sexuality. Debresser (talk) 21:43, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Lead-in I wrote deleted by user:Debresser as "personal opinion"

In general, in contrast with Christianity, Judaism views sexuality positively, a gift from God that is by no means limited to reproduction. Celibacy is no virtue; there is an informal but strong expectation that a man, and especially a community leader, should have a wife. Lovemaking on the Sabbath is appropriate and commendable.

In Jewish law , sexuality is viewed as having both positive and negative potential...

deisenbe (talk) 00:32, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Yep. And why did you decide to write about this here? By the way, I left that last sentence. Debresser (talk) 06:06, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Which sentence did you leave?

The talk page is the WP designated place for discussions of an article and how to improve it. deisenbe (talk) 11:53, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Another reversion by user:debresser (he is imposing here his own view, Haredi Judaism; he identifies as Haredi on his user page)

The paragraph that begins "In Judaism" I changed to "In Jewish law", which is all the section goes on to talk about. Judaism and Jewish law are not the same thing. Rabbis from previous centuries, or millenia, do not have the sole authority to say what Judaism is or what Judaism's view of sexuality is. In my opinion, anyway. deisenbe (talk) 11:57, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

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