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:As noted above, you'll need to make your case over at ]. Good luck with that; God knows I (and many others) have tried. ] ]/] 01:59, 7 August 2015 (UTC) :As noted above, you'll need to make your case over at ]. Good luck with that; God knows I (and many others) have tried. ] ]/] 01:59, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
*'''Strong Support'''. Myanmar is now widely used amongst global media, most importantly, the worlds largest broadcaster, the ]. Some weight should be given to the fact this country has specifically asked not to be known by the old colonial name, and rather the new one. Use of Burma has plummeted, especially in independent sources. ] (]) 02:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC) *'''Strong Support'''. Myanmar is now widely used amongst global media, most importantly, the worlds largest broadcaster, the ]. Some weight should be given to the fact this country has specifically asked not to be known by the old colonial name, and rather the new one. Use of Burma has plummeted, especially in independent sources. ] (]) 02:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
*'''Mild Support''' Though I'd like to see some statistics in support of nom's contention that "The current trend in ] is that "Myanmar" is the ] and ]" I think it is time. Hopefully someone else will provide the hard evidence that the nom has failed to provide. --] <small>(])</small> 02:14, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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There is more than one name for this country. Strong arguments exist for the use of both names as an article title; however, the most recent requested move discussion found that the article title should be at Myanmar. Burma redirects there.

  • RM, Burma → Myanmar, No consensus, 12 October 2011, discussion
  • RM, Burma → Myanmar, Not moved, 8 August 2012, discussion
    • MRV, Burma → Myanmar, Endorsed, 26 August 2012, discussion
  • RM, Burma → Myanmar, Moved, 7 August 2015, discussion
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GDP/PPP (IMF figures)

If I am not wrong, the PPP figure, 221 billions, increases tremendously in recent years (readjustment?). That means Myanmar jumps from near bottom to 58th. Does anyone know reasons for this? SWH 08:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't much faith into the GDP numbers, including those by the IMF. To me, it's still pretty much guesswork, given that there haven't been much reliable data. According to the IMF, the country's GDP tripled from 2006 to 2010. Really? This was before the so-called political reforms, and the subsequent FDI inflows. It was during Cyclone Nargis and the Saffron protests. Natural gas sales of a few billion dollars and a small base, etc. can't explain that. I have to think they were trying to readjust their previous low-ball estimates. With the 2014 PPP figures, the IMF might have overshot in readjustment. (Anyone who's been to Yangon/Mandalay lately knows how ridiculously expensive sub-standard things are there.) It may be readjusted downward next year. Who knows? I don't think anyone really knows. It'll take several years for the stats coming out of the country to become somewhat reliable. Hybernator (talk) 01:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, that's true. I was quite suspicious because the government couldn't even hire proper accountants and IMF figures show ridiculously high estimates. It will take long before we have somewhat reliable figures. SWH 07:55, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Major events not covered

The economics history section is (of course, the entire article is, but I won't waste time arguing about HR) in shambles. It blames economic failures entirely to U Nu, forgetting he controlled little beyond Rangoon, and argues that British rule, which sowed the seeds of civil war and communal violence today, was hugely beneficial to the Burmese. I believe it cannot be standalone and should be merged with history section.

In history section, several major events such as invasion of CIA-backed KMT which formed the backbone of the Golden Triangle should be covered. As well, the origin of several ethnic armies which were formed by the British to fight against the Japanese should be covered. SWH 18:09, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 3 February 2015

This edit request to Talk:Myanmar has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

I am requesting two separate changes to RCAT tags on Talk:Myanmar, which is currently a protected redirect page. (It redirects here, to Talk:Burma.)

The relevant line of code presently on the page is:
{{Redr|move|from historic name|with possibilities}}

I am requesting that it be changed to:
{{Redr|move|from alternative name}}

The first change is changing "from historic name" to "from alternative name". The latter is more accurate, and making the change on Talk:Myanmar would match changes already made on Myanmar, which is also a protected redirect page (to Burma). This same change was made on that page in two separate steps (three months apart), with the removal of "from historic name" made here and the addition of "from alternative name" made here.

The second change is simply removing "with possibilities", since the Talk: page is not a "redirect with possibilities". (This tag is in place on Myanmar, which is perfectly appropriate for that page in the main/article namespace.)

If any of this is unclear, please let me know (here on this page) and I'll try to clarify. Jdaloner (talk) 07:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius 10:01, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Name in Burmese script not shown correctly

At least on English Misplaced Pages, the official name of the country shows up as "ျပည္ေထာင္စုသမၼတျမန္မာနိဳင္ငံေတာ္" when it should be "ပြည်ထောင်​စု သမ္မတ မြန်မာ​နိုင်​ငံတော်". Why? Kanjilearner817 (talk) 17:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

What is the translation difference between the two? Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:38, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Both look exactly the same on my wiki Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 22:05, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 7 August 2015

The request to rename this article to Myanmar has been carried out.
If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag.

BurmaMyanmar – The last RM was back in 2012, three years ago. Right before the democracy reforms and the elections. With the current change in the political direction of the country, a new debate is warranted whether to keep the old name or go on to the new one. The current trend in popular media is that "Myanmar" is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:Commonname. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

As noted above, you'll need to make your case over at Talk:Burma/Myanmar. Good luck with that; God knows I (and many others) have tried. DoctorJoeE /talk to me! 01:59, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Strong Support. Myanmar is now widely used amongst global media, most importantly, the worlds largest broadcaster, the BBC. Some weight should be given to the fact this country has specifically asked not to be known by the old colonial name, and rather the new one. Use of Burma has plummeted, especially in independent sources. AusLondonder (talk) 02:08, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Mild Support Though I'd like to see some statistics in support of nom's contention that "The current trend in popular media is that "Myanmar" is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:Commonname" I think it is time. Hopefully someone else will provide the hard evidence that the nom has failed to provide. --regentspark (comment) 02:14, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
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