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Thanks for your edits to the hatnotes I have been working on. This is the first time I have done this sort of bread and butter wikipedia work and I find that I enjoy it. I feel like your edits have taught me quite a bit about formatting and how to write a good hatnote. I appreciate it. ] 21:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Thanks for your edits to the hatnotes I have been working on. This is the first time I have done this sort of bread and butter wikipedia work and I find that I enjoy it. I feel like your edits have taught me quite a bit about formatting and how to write a good hatnote. I appreciate it. ] 21:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:Glad to help. A good point of reference: ]. I ''thought'' I had a good feel for them, but I picked up a couple of things from there.

:"Bread and butter work" ''can'' be a pain in the ass (very easily, actually), but I have to admit to a certain satisfaction in getting through a particularly tedious bit of working and seeing it look nice and clean. ] 21:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


==In fact, you deserve a barnstar for having such a keen eye for detail== ==In fact, you deserve a barnstar for having such a keen eye for detail==
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:Golly gee, I'm gonna blush! ;) Danke dude. ] 21:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:09, 4 August 2006

 As a dedicated Wikimedian, I don't limit myself to just one project or just one language. user page // talk page adminopiningmatrixfunawards

This is EVula's talk page, which shouldn't be a surprise if you clicked the link...

My general guidelines:
  • If I (EVula) left you a comment on your talk page, please just respond there, not here, so that conversations aren't spread out. Similarly, if you post something here, I will respond here.
  • Place new comments after existing ones (but within topic sections).
  • Separate topic sections with ==A descriptive header==, and put new topics at the bottom of the page.
Archive
Archives
  1. February 2006 – June 2006

July Firefly Issue!

The July 2006 issue of the Firefly WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 16:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Question

How do I get on the Ambrosia boards so I can be your friend there and thus be added to your list of friends here. Thanks. Justinpwilsonadvocate 03:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

The Ambrosia boards. However, just because you register there doesn't mean you can just add yourself to the friends list; I've known most of the people on that list for at least a couple of years (in the case of Mazca and Guapo, its closer to seven or eight), and I've met squibix (staying at his place on two different occasions). EVula 16:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
So exclusive!!! I, for one, would be more than happy to have you on my friends list. In fact, I think I'll create a friends list and put you on it. Justinpwilsonadvocate 18:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Star Wars newsletter

Project updates
Greetings, Star Wars editors! Deckiller here. It's the first edition of the WikiProject Star Wars newsletter, and yes, it's a semi-ripoff of the Esperenza newsletter. I think it's important to begin with some good news: Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and Jabba the Hutt have reached featured article status! Kudos to the editors who helped obtain these achievements!

WikiProject Star Wars is also on a mission to improve Star Wars articles using the following ideas:

  • An out of universe perspective versus an in universe perspective (see Misplaced Pages:Writing about fiction and the future ammendments to our manual of style)
  • Evolving lists into regular articles
  • Moving excess information and specifics to Wookieepedia (and providing links to Wookieepedia per the "see also" and/or "external links" sections)
  • Enhanced communication amongst WikiProject members
  • More to come

These should provide the basic steps needed to improve and "encyclopedia-fy" the Star Wars series of articles.

Things to do
There are plenty of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Star Wars/things to do. An update to the page is coming very soon, and it will represent the new and exciting changes that Star Wars pages will be receiving!
Out-of-universe versus in-universe perspectives
Although details are forthcoming, I would like to take this time to explain the gist of this concept. Misplaced Pages has generally agreed that fictional articles should write about the topic from a "real world" perspective, focusing on real world issues and topics, with a section or two for plot synopsis and so on. Jabba the Hutt is a solid character example, and Clone Wars (Star Wars) is quickly moving toward an out of universe perspective.
Article evolution

As many of you know, lists of minor Star Wars-related themes are very common on Misplaced Pages; however, since these may be seen as violations of Misplaced Pages policy (and having seperate articles would breach even more policies), the tentative solution is to create general articles on a list's topic (for example, turning List of Star Wars devices into Technology of Star Wars, which allows us to cover everything from hyperspace to comlinks in a general encyclopedic fashion). This can be very tough for some broad topics, so the key is organization. I encourage all editors to list their ideas on the WikiProject talk page. It will be a very difficult — but tangible — effort.

For an example, let me point you to the Final Fantasy WikiProject. Some of us over at that WikiProject decided to turn various components of Final Fantasy X, such as Pyreflies, Yevon, and the backstory — into an article describing the world of Spira. Location descriptions were given a List of locations in Spira article, and the details themselves were placed on the Spira (Final Fantasy X) page. This is a decent template to follow — however, we will need to place priority on out-of-universe, "real life" topics and perspectives in realtion to the article.

Sounds confusing, eh? It won't, for examples will be popping up left and right in the near future!

Signed...
Deckiller 03:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Briley Parkway

Regarding this article, can the alternate names for the highway be italicized rather than bolded? I have a feeling that in the future, someone might actually try to make a redirect with those names of Woodmont Blvd and Thompson Lane anyway. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, italics don't quite make sense either; I'd say let's leave it alone. If someone does try to make a redirect, they would probably get deleted anyway; while I know that Thompson and Woodmont are significant in Nashville, neither road is notable enough to warrant additional attention from Misplaced Pages, and the redirects might be deleted. Perhaps toss some quotes around the alternate names the first time they are mentioned? *shrug* EVula 15:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

MK Infoboxes

BTW, adding captions to the images in the character infoboxes does nothing, since that's not a valid template parameter. Just though I'd let you know to avoid too much unnecessary work =O).Virogtheconq 19:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it *does* do some good; without a caption, the HTML generated by Misplaced Pages has nothing in the "alt" area, which is a bad thing from an accessibility standpoint. EVula 19:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.Virogtheconq 20:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Always happy to help. :) EVula 20:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Olive Branch

I can see you have rebuffed my efforts at extending an olive branch. Justinpwilsonadvocate 02:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh, okay. No clue what you're talking about, but I don't particularly care, either. Explain yourself or don't; neither much matters to me. EVula 04:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I am referring to my efforts to become your friend and begin a new era of collegiality between us. But I guess you "don't particularly care". Justinpwilsonadvocate 04:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I fail to see what I did to rebuff anything. The fact that you have (seemingly randomly) dropped me a line suggests (to me, at least) that I actively did something, which I have no knowledge of; feel free to provide an example of said action.
My apathy stems from my ignorance of the situation. Rectify that, and I might give a rat's ass. EVula 04:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I just want us to be friends. Justinpwilsonadvocate 04:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Alrighty, I'm going to state this once:

Leave me the fuck alone.

I've asked repeatedly in our most recent exchange for you to clarify what it is you're talking about, and you've failed to do so repeatedly (either willfully or accidently, it doesn't matter). Just leave me alone. If you keep harassing me, I'll see what I can do within the Misplaced Pages system to ensure that you stop. This is not a threat, and it shouldn't be interpreted as one; it is merely a request that you leave me alone.

I'm not sure what your problem is, but I'm not out to "get you" or anything, and I haven't done anything (as far as I know, and you've failed to clarify your claim) to rebuke your attempts at friendship; indeed, as far as I'm concerned, I've been very cordial:

  • You thanked me for backing you up in an edit dispute, which I politely turned down (as I didn't feel it was warranted).
  • I didn't consider your addition of yourself to my Friends list vandalism (I have done so to other attempts in the past). This may not mean much to you, but this distinction is quite significant to me.
  • When you were stalking me, I calmly requested that you stopped, rather than attack you over it.
  • I've stated specifically that "I'm not opposed to being friends" with you (emphasis mine).
  • You asked how you could get on my friends list, and I answered in an honest manner (it should be noted that, to the best of my knowledge, you've yet to follow-through with that advice).

I'm not sure what it is that set you off this time, but I'm officially tired of this back and forth. Stop pestering me.

Repeated attempts at communication on my talk page in regards to any personal issues will (most likely) be met with silence and indifference. Communication about content/edit disputes should be relegated to the talk page of the disputed article, not my talk page; edits of such a nature made on my talk page will be summarily reverted.

Honestly and most sincerely,
EVula 04:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
(cross-posted on User talk:Justinpwilsonadvocate and User talk:EVula)


I will gladly leave you alone, other than keeping an eye on your cruft-ish contributions to the wiki. Frankly, i sincerely think much of this video game / sci-fi trivia is pretty non-notable. However, it is difficult to countenance the vulgarity of your message to me. Really, Mr. cool computer guy / MTSU dude, civility is a core value here at wikipedia. I was genuinely trying to encourage collegiality between us with my last few messages. Instead of accepting this olive branch, you chose to tell me to leave you the fuck alone. Somehow it seems that this kind of harsh language and unfriendly sentiment seems out of place in a collaborative environment such as wikipedia. Just a thought. Justinpwilsonadvocate 05:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
If you have a problem with the quality of my contributions... well, that's nice. You are welcome to submit an AfD for the articles you don't believe should be on the Misplaced Pages. Reverting my edits for the sake of argument will be treated as vandalism, and tracking my edits with the express purpose of challenging them will be considered harassment and will be treated (and acted upon) as such.
Your opinion of the topics I have chosen to devote my energies to on Misplaced Pages in absolutely no conceivable way matters to anyone but yourself; I would advise that you keep such an opinion out of your thoughts when editing.
I feel that I have been very civil, given the level of pestering you've reached. If you don't, so be it. Feel free to go through whatever Misplaced Pages process you need to for me to be formally reprimanded (I, obviously, will argue in such a debate, but will willingly accept any punishment/reprimand meted out). Keep in mind that there is no Misplaced Pages policy stating that I be friends with you; I'm well within my right to "rebuke" any attempt at friendship, although I still don't know what set you off on this latest tirade (the initial "Olive Branch" post).
I'm tired of your attempts at monopolizing my time by constantly posting to my talk page. I asked you to clarify what you were talking about, and you failed to. Hence, I felt justified in escalating the level of discussion with the "leave me the fuck alone" comment, which you failed to fully comprehend, as evidenced by the fact you're still posting here.
This is our last communication about the personal issues between the two of us. Period. I don't care about being your friend anymore (reminder: you still have me listed on your profile page as a friend. I'll leave it to you whether to remove it or not, as I'm entirely apathetic about it). Do not post additional comments about this topic, as they will be ignored and removed as vandalism (communication in regards to Misplaced Pages content and contributions, though I would prefer being restricted the article in question, will not be considered vandalism). EVula 16:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Would like your opinion on talk:War Machine

As you are clearly quite knowledgeable about comic book matters, I would appreciate your comment on a discussion I have initiated talk page War Machine. Essentially, there are arguments for renaming this article "War Machine (Comic Book)" and creating a disambiguation page, but there are also obvious arguments against this course of action. I thought you might have some helpful input. Thanks and have a nice night. Say hello to Hope Hines for me. Justinpwilsonadvocate 01:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hah! The "You have a message" note popped up just as I was clicking on that link from my watchlist. Excellent timing. :) (Also, I've never met Hope Hines, hate to disappoint) EVula 01:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Pretty funny. And you really should meet Hope Hines, or at least catch him on the 10 o' clock news. He has been, for me, a highlight of living in Nashville. Justinpwilsonadvocate 01:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Ahoy!

I remember using your website as a reference for Escape Velocity a number of years back, and so when I saw a comment in the "Articles for Deletion" page attributed to "EVula", I had to wonder if it was the EVula. Just thought I'd thank you from back then for the helpful tips! --Columba livia 17:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Indeed I am the one and only. Glad that I helped, oh so long ago. :) EVula 17:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Ronto Group

I am posting this here because it does not directly relate to the article or whether it should be kept but to your comments regarding the sufficiency of my keep vote. It is unclear to me what is wrong with my keep vote on the ronto group deletion debate. It seems to say as much as 90% of keep votes I see in deletion debates across wikipedia, so it is unclear why I should be required to say more for my opinion to be taken into an account to an extent a keep vote by an experienced user ordinarily would be. As for my reference to "debate", what I meant is that the AFD should be allowed to work through the ordinary process and this article should not be speedy deleted as its alleged non-notability is now in dispute. Thanks. Justinpwilsonadvocate 12:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with your vote. I was saying that, if you wanted it to be kept, you needed to actually provide some evidence of notability. I see that you've made some edits to the article, though I don't have the time to actually investigate them right now. You are correct in that, now that the article has at least some sources, it shouldn't be speedily deleted, and I doubt any admin would fail to take that into consideration. EVula 15:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

MK Userbox

I posted something on the WikiProject Mortal Kombat about the userbox. I was thinking of replacing yours with the mandatory message like this:

Per the userbox migration, {{User WPMK}} was moved to {{User:SilentRage/Userboxes/WPMK}}.

Along with the suggestions I posted at the WP talk page. Your thoughts? SilentRage 19:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I have responded. Note, WikiProject declarations are relatively immune to the GUS, so this isn't a particularly pressing issue. EVula 20:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

hey

if its alright coul u try and find a decent deception subzero picture cause im kinda havin trouble with it

Chameleon

click this, then move the cursor over the question marked boxes.

http://edtech2.boisestate.edu/buccip/Flash/MKA.htm

~~ Lil'Layzie-One

...that's a cool Flash thing and all, but (a) the question marks that display beside the characters' names really fails to impress, and (b) something hosted on someone personal site on their school's server is hardly a reliable source. If I made a Flash animation that said that I was going to be in the game, would you believe it? EVula 01:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

wait

nevermind tell me what u think of the deception picture of subzero u better be proud i worked alot on it 4 fuckin hours to be exact

so

howd ya like the picture i uploaded — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyubidude (talkcontribs)

I like it well enough, but you didn't include a source when you uploaded it. I fixed that, but you really should include such information on your own.
Also, please sign you posts by putting ~~~~ after what you type. It makes it easier to track what people are saying (less of an issue in a two-person back-and-forth, but still, it's a good habit to get into). EVula 14:29, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

re: Your revert on Parthenon (Nashville)

I'm sorry, I don't understand how linking to Centennial Park (Nashville) directly instead of to the DAB page for Centennial Park can be considered linkspam. Please explain or undo/change your revert. --Brian G 16:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Gah! Sorry, I somehow reverted your edit when I was attempting to remove some spam in the External links section. Many apologies, and I have corrected my mistake. Again, I'm sorry about that. EVula 17:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah.... I see what happened now. No problem. If I thought about it a little harder I could have figured it out and fixed it for you. --Brian G 17:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

re your accusation on Sareena

Please wikipedia:assume good faith. I did not "blindly revert" your edit (which implies that I reverted this edit because you made it or to mess with you). If you actually look, you will see that I included an edit summary explaining why my previous, more descriptive its proper location. This was a good faith mistake. Please do not assume that I am doing wrong. Justinpwilsonadvocate 15:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

*sigh* You reverted directly to my previous edit (where I indented the hatnote). I can accept skipping over my edit where I condensed the note (heh, since it is what you disagreed with), so that's all well and good, but you undid my moving of the infobox/opening sentence. I then had to do it again (which would have been a much bigger pain in the ass if I'd done more than move a single line).
This isn't an accusation; it was a blind revert. However, I think you're overreacting to the comment; I'm not saying you did it to be a dick or anything. As far as I know, you just didn't see it. A good faith mistake? I have absolutely no problem believing that. I put that in the summary to call attention to the fact that you should be more mindful of previous edits.
Just... calm down. Yeesh. EVula 15:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
In that case, I apologize for overreacting. I guess I'm just overly cautious now that a misintepreted action on my part could be grounds for you "see what can do within the Misplaced Pages system to ensure that stop". Justinpwilsonadvocate 15:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Good job leaving "harassing me" out of the context. This conversation is now closed as per my notes above. EVula 15:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for leaving that out. I just want to be careful of not being accused of harassing you and I think it is completely legitimate for me to seek guidance from you as to what you consider to be harassment. Justinpwilsonadvocate 19:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn

i don't know your timeline, but you did alot of work on the arena's catagory, but your turning this around a lot man, much appreciation to you. ~~Lil'Layzie-One

Yeah, I sorta went crazy there, doing a lot more editing than I intended to when I sat down. :) EVula 17:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

well i saddly got most of the pics in there, i just don't know about some of the arena's, like the skull & ladder? i never heard of them, but the ladder? sounded like a portal stage, i don't know whos all turning this around, but we all made lots of progress.Lil'Layzie-One 17:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)Lil'Layzie-One

Userpage

Your welcome ^_^ Sango helped out with the design a lot, so make sure to thank her as well! — Deckiller 05:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just happened upon that link on your userpage... wow. I'm pretty damn good with XHTML/CSS, but what she's done within the wiki system is just mind-boggling. :) EVula 05:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your edits to the hatnotes I have been working on. This is the first time I have done this sort of bread and butter wikipedia work and I find that I enjoy it. I feel like your edits have taught me quite a bit about formatting and how to write a good hatnote. I appreciate it. Justinpwilsonadvocate 21:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Glad to help. A good point of reference: WP:HAT. I thought I had a good feel for them, but I picked up a couple of things from there.
"Bread and butter work" can be a pain in the ass (very easily, actually), but I have to admit to a certain satisfaction in getting through a particularly tedious bit of working and seeing it look nice and clean. EVula 21:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

In fact, you deserve a barnstar for having such a keen eye for detail

The Minor Barnstar
In recognition of this user's numerous high quality minor edits. An eye for detail as good as yours goes a long way on the wiki. Justinpwilsonadvocate 21:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Golly gee, I'm gonna blush! ;) Danke dude. EVula 21:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)