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rushdie

the novel is not just about the namegiving satanic verses episode but presents a version of the early years of islam. are you saying that rushdie based all of this on the writings by ibn ishaq (could well be), did rushdie say so or are you just guessing? --trueblood 21:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

anti-arab cat

oh, stop injecting POV. There's already enough of it in the Kahane and Goldstein articles - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The above is why the heck I reverted your edits. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Re-word it?

Not sure I understand - I removed the information because it violated policy. How can one re-word themselves out of that? Please see the article talk: page. Jayjg 21:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hamas

I like your work on Hamas, there seems to be a POV effort to only list countries which list it as a terrorist organization. Deuterium 00:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours

For repeated disruptions, as threatened. - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

If you want to continue to engage in Talk, that's fine, but beware of edit-warring - if your position is in consensus, it will eventually be changed back by others. Tewfik 21:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Yr email

You were not blocked because Cat:Anti-semitic ppl is better than Cat:anti-arab ppl, or any such thing. You were blocked for WP:POINTedly disrupting 3 articles. Everyone knows that Goldstein is a mass murderer and Kahane is a declared terrorist supporter. That does not mean you're justified in dusripting those three articles. (And what did Coulter do to you? Nevermind...) When you come back, please don't insist. The cat will be deleted on CFD, anyway, and so should the anti-semitic one. - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:3RR

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing in Hamas. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Tewfik 21:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Please do not remove...

...warnings and comments from your usertalk page. You may archive them, however, by moving them to User talk:Yas121/Archive1 or any such other subpage of your choosing, as long as it's still linked from the main talk page. - CrazyRussian talk/email 21:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Says who? it's my talk page I'll do what I like Yas121 14:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh right, Misplaced Pages Talk page policy. OK then I won't do what I like Yas121 14:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

False. You are entitled to do whatever you want with your talk page, except perhaps blanking blocks & admins' notice. There have been precedents, this page is your own, you may do whatever you want to with. Nice Russian boy has been totally unable to point out to you some real policy, there aren't any!

3RR on Hamas

Yas121, you have violated WP:3RR on Hamas. Please revert yourself before you are blocked. Jayjg 23:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Can you please check again! I didn't rv anything. The UN, Russia etc discussion is on-going and I said I wouldn't on the Talk page. I only added a new edit "or Palestinian uprising against Israel's occupation in the West Bank and Gaza." how is this violating the WP:3RR?

Complex reverts count. First you reverted in the stuff about the UN, then you reverted in the stuff about the Intifadeh. 4 reverts in all. Please stop gaming, and revert yourself, as I am about to report you. Jayjg 23:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I did not Rev the Intifada bit as I wrote that myself! and yes I said I wont Rev the UN part and I haven't Yas121 23:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

You reverted in the UN stuff, and you wrote the intifada bit then reverted it in 3 more times as well. 3RR is about reverting anything on the page, not just one specific section. The clock is ticking here, please revert yourself now. Jayjg 00:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Nice to have you around Yas! Don't bother trying to understand what's wrong with the admins, the problem isn't them, but the sheer number of pro-Israelis editors who have no respect for others standpoint. Misunderstanding on both sides is probably one of the main reason for this enduring conflict... Pay no heed to Jayjg's rhetorics, he's just intent on portraying any movement opposed to his POV as evil terrorists. There are more hawks than anything else on this Wiki, it is to us to remain here & try to keep the balance however we can... Salam alekum, slama!

Anti-semitic people

Hey Yas, I believe she calls Al-Qa'eda terrorists "ragheads", not Muslims in general. In any event, I don't believe we should have a cat for Anti-semitic people, and I challenge you to find a single instance when I added it to anyone's biography! Now please drop the matter. - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Apologies CR, consider the matter dropped. If only you had made yourself clearer in the first place instead of just blocking me! I also voiced my opinion below. --Yas121 22:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Allegedly anti-Semitic people

They can't delete the Category:Anti-Semitic people

Your vote is requested:

ArbCom case

Yas, only arbcom members can vote on proposed decision cases, so I have removed your votes at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Israeli apartheid/Proposed decision. -- Kim van der Linde 00:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Oops sorry didn't know. Yas121 02:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Why are you being ganged up on?

You may be asking yourself why you are being ganged up on, why many people keep coming after you and none comes to your defense, or maybe one person does in a weak fashion for a short while. The reason is because the people who run Misplaced Pages have a Zionist point of view, and everyone who does not share that point of view has eventually come to realize this, or if not realizing it quits in frustration. No one is helping you because the people who run Misplaced Pages have driven off or kicked off everyone who would have agreed with you.

Jayjg has been removing your edits. Jayjg removes the edits of anyone who does not follow the Zionist party line. Here is some background on Jayjg and Misplaced Pages - Jimbo Wales runs Misplaced Pages. In terms of site operations, under him is the Arbitration Committee. Two years ago there were elections to the Arbitration Committee and Jayjg got no votes. So a few months later Jimbo appointed him, without a vote, to the Arbitration committee. So a few months later there was another vote for the ArbCom (the Arbitration Committee). Due to massive opposition to Jayjg (over 100 people voted against him), he did not make the cut of people with enough vote percentage to get into the Arbitration Committee. Guess what? Jimbo *still* appointed him to the Arbitration Committee again. There was another appointee, but he is a technical person and was only appointed to make running the site smoother, he was uncontroversial. So the only person who was given these powers against the democratic wishes of the majority of people who use Misplaced Pages was a Zionist POV-pusher. Which shows you how important the person running Misplaced Pages consider this point of view in his encyclopedia.

I would suggest you visit Misplaced Pages Review to see some views of Misplaced Pages which the Misplaced Pages cabal doesn't control and can't censor. That's why admins blocked the ability for people to create a page Misplaced Pages Review and why there has been such a battle to remove any mention of the existence of Misplaced Pages Review from Misplaced Pages.

I would also suggest checking out alternative wiki encyclopedias like Anarchopedia, Democratic Underground, dKosopedia and Red Wiki. I share your views, but they are obviously not welcome here, so why keep banging your head against a wall until you get thrown off or frustrated and quit? From the history of me seeing this happen though, I predict you will keep wasting time here in an exercise of futility for several months and then finally quit in frustration, going on to other things. This is what happens with most people. I myself am building up these alternative wikis, sometimes post on Misplaced Pages Review, and check in here every once in a while although I know it's pointless. For example, I mentioned how the IDF kidnapping of two Palestinians in Gaza was the reason for the capture of two IDF soldiers in Lebanon, but just as the corporate US media is Zionist, so are the people who run Misplaced Pages and they want to make sure that things like this are known by as few people as possible.

I am just passing you this note so that you know you're not alone in this, although on Misplaced Pages itself you are alone, since all of us are on Misplaced Pages Review or one of the alternative wikis. Here you just can waste your time getting edits reverted by people and no one will help you since they've all been kicked or driven off. If you choose to continue to waste your time that's your choice, it's as futile as a Palestinian throwing a rock as a tank. Ruy Lopez 17:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Please don't buy into the negative attitude of Ruy Lopez. Your participation is welcome here. There is by no means a domination by "Zionists" as he would have it. Just normal disputes between pro-Israeli and anti-Israeli points of view, both of which we want to be fairly represented. Fred Bauder 04:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

That is all I want! in fact to be perfectly honest even 60/40 in favour of pro-Israelis is fine...actually right now 70/30 even sounds good! But it's all down to the Admins in the end, there's nothing I can really do if they are (and my God are they! as far as Hamas is concerned) pro-Israeli. All I'll get is BLOCKED in a useless attempt to make Misplaced Pages Non-American/Israeli friendly. Yas121 04:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Mmmm... yes... a pint of palestinian blood would be a fine dessert right now. - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes you are upset because of the bombing in Israel, understandable...believe it or not many non-Israelis are too BUT you drink a pint and then they drink a pint back and then you drink a pint and then...??!!?? is this a competition for who runs out of blood 1st? Don't forget there are at least 10x more dead Labanese civilians! Yas121 04:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Have to block that crasy Russian I guess, but try to discuss rather than edit war. And of course avoid personal attacks. Fred Bauder 04:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)