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I have put the following on the Mikka's talk page. According to my experience Mikka is one of the best contributors of Wiki, I am sure he did not mean what you think he wrote. I have replaced the offending message anyway. ] 15:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC) I have put the following on the Mikka's talk page. According to my experience Mikka is one of the best contributors of Wiki, I am sure he did not mean what you think he wrote. I have replaced the offending message anyway. ] 15:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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Well it appears that the Russian users are fleering up as well, probably for the same reason! Luis, I don't think the Russian editors would be POV-pushing on neutral articles, I actually think mikka has good intentions. He wants the article to be NPOV. If the article was already 100% neutral, him and Ghirla wouldn't have objections to it! Perhaps you could get Kober involved, he can usually find compromises pretty quickly. Until then, relaaaaaaaaaaaaaax. :) —Khoikhoi 05:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Khoi. When trying to eliminate an alleged pro-Georgian POV, the Russian users effectively push their own POV (I wouldn't say pro-Abkhaz POV, because their edits are more anti-Georgian, than pro-Abkhaz) and post rather offensive comments which Luis has already removed. I think, it was a good solution as it prevented a likely extremely hot dispute. I was very outraged when reading their comments that Georgians lost the war because they were not good fighters (how about Russian air and naval forces bombing Georgians almost daily?) and I had to make a titanic effort to quell my anger. Mikka also accuses Luis of Russophobia and claims he (Luis) is a "sock of a Georgian nationalist" . Is this really a good intention?
Futhermore, the Russian editors consider Western sources used in the article Russophobic and refuse to accept them. Following this logic, Russian and Abkhaz sources are supposed to be Westernophobic+Georgianophobic and Georgian sources Russophobic+Abkhazophobic. So what's the way out of this?
Then they will claim that Russia is not a conflict party, but a mediator! Btw, Luis, have you already signed this petition?:)--Kober 06:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Luis, I hope that incident with mikka and won't discourage you from continuing your wonderful work on wiki. We need a friend like you very mach. Thanks a lot, --Kober 16:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Ldingley, I would like to discuss with you some aspects of Georgian-Abkhaz conflict if you don't mind and I would like to do it through some other media (like MSN or other). If you feel positive about this, please let me know, I would appreciate it! --Zone 08:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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I have put the following on the Mikka's talk page. According to my experience Mikka is one of the best contributors of Wiki, I am sure he did not mean what you think he wrote. I have replaced the offending message anyway. abakharev 15:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)