Revision as of 22:01, 23 November 2005 editUser2004 (talk | contribs)23,415 editsm →Sources: sp← Previous edit | Revision as of 06:49, 13 August 2006 edit undoPartrib (talk | contribs)30 edits →FactsNext edit → | ||
Line 5: | Line 5: | ||
== Facts == | == Facts == | ||
I think it is important we stick the 6 major teachings of The Local Church, so we can hold those in Lee camp accountable instead of continually letting them off the hook by their not addressing these problems (i.e. always skirting around the facts): calvinism (pride in believing in being premade for salvation), suing for faith, modalism (saying the Father is the Son and the Godhead is a Person), altering Watchman Nee's writings (e.g. limiting affection to love and desire only to hate in LSM TSM), calling oneself God (in any way shape or form), and violent screaming mantra (which is neither prayer nor reading to yell 2 or 3 words aggressively). | |||
Also, can we please stick to why it is wrong to have a central-hub command and control centre of LSM for filthy lucre, and no Aposles (which is rejecting Eph. 4.11). If the outlets of the lsm/lc system are without Apostles, then their outlets are taken care of by false Elders since those Elders are not and never will be appointed by Apostles. All this seems like quite a reasonable assessment stated succinctly. If only we could maintain the focus on these specific problems instead of always filling the pages with other matters, perhaps you will help this organization to find the way of the Dodo bird which is God's will. Sincerely. | |||
The editor of the article said to "discuss factual (verifiable) issues in these pages." Please do not write libelous material. | The editor of the article said to "discuss factual (verifiable) issues in these pages." Please do not write libelous material. | ||
---- | ---- |
Revision as of 06:49, 13 August 2006
Whatever "Administer"'s views might be about Witness Lee, please discuss factual (verifiable) issues in these pages. If you question the neutrality of the article, please state your reasons so we can discuss them. Cokoli 02:25, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
Facts
I think it is important we stick the 6 major teachings of The Local Church, so we can hold those in Lee camp accountable instead of continually letting them off the hook by their not addressing these problems (i.e. always skirting around the facts): calvinism (pride in believing in being premade for salvation), suing for faith, modalism (saying the Father is the Son and the Godhead is a Person), altering Watchman Nee's writings (e.g. limiting affection to love and desire only to hate in LSM TSM), calling oneself God (in any way shape or form), and violent screaming mantra (which is neither prayer nor reading to yell 2 or 3 words aggressively).
Also, can we please stick to why it is wrong to have a central-hub command and control centre of LSM for filthy lucre, and no Aposles (which is rejecting Eph. 4.11). If the outlets of the lsm/lc system are without Apostles, then their outlets are taken care of by false Elders since those Elders are not and never will be appointed by Apostles. All this seems like quite a reasonable assessment stated succinctly. If only we could maintain the focus on these specific problems instead of always filling the pages with other matters, perhaps you will help this organization to find the way of the Dodo bird which is God's will. Sincerely. The editor of the article said to "discuss factual (verifiable) issues in these pages." Please do not write libelous material.
This article fails to explain such basic aspects as Mr. Lee's title, i.e. "Witness". In fact it sounds like an article written by people so familiar with the subjects that they are not aware something might have been assumed.
NPOV Needed
The statement that Witness Lee "experienced salvation" is of course not NPOV.Did he convert to Christianity at this point,or (already a nominal Christian) have a "born-again experience"?Either would be preferable.--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 19:47, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sources
I've reverted the addition of extensive criticisms because they are not sourced. Particlularly when we are making allegation of sexual and financial improprieties we need to have verifiable sources that we can attribute the allegations to. I can't find them in the listed sources. -Willmcw 22:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)