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Contacting me

If you wish to contact me, the quickest and easiest way is to use This Talk Page. If I am logged into Misplaced Pages, whicih is likely if I am awake, I will see the new messages flag and respond as quickly as I can.

Please use my email link only as a last resort

Note well-- I believe Misplaced Pages communications should be as transparent as possible. I will post any email related to Misplaced Pages on my talk page. I will respond on the emailer's Talk Page. It is very unlikely that I will respond via email, as that would not be transparent.

The messages

Re: Talk page blanking

I've responded on my talk page (as I generally do). And I'm pretty sure it's typical for a candidate's "apologists" to debate those in opposition, and vice versa, entirely without the candidate's endorsement or consent. Debate is intended, after all. (I have no real ties or attachment to that particular RfA, but any support or oppose vote should expect to be "rebutted" if someone takes objection. I won't debate you on your vote, but I wouldn't hold it against a candidate if people spring to his or her defense.) --Emufarmers 14:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Ryulong RFA

Hi Dlohcierekim... techinically I'm not supposed to be here... I was blocked for reverting a FALSE incest quote complete with bogus source that Ryulong fought very hard to uphold on the Jeremy Clarkson article. (ITS ALL IN THE HISTORY) It's a long story... but regardless... I was OPPOSITION vote 16 and my vote was deleted by #3 supporter within 90 seconds!!, MrLefty and my suspension was increased to TWO weeks instead of one, I believe, so that I'd miss the end vote. Ryulong, along with his ASDMIN bully friends have pretty much destroyed my enjoyment of the site. When I first discovered the FALSE quote, I deleted it citing that "IF YOURE GONNA SAY THAT JEREMY SAID THAT ALL OF USA PRACTICES INCEST, THEN YOU'LL NEED TO BACK IT UP" as it seems too controversial. He reverted me 3 or 4 times claiming that "jeremy could have easily said that"...(Im trying to make this short as possible)... he deleted it... I tried to open a topic on the JC talk page and he deleted my topic 6 times then had me blocked by his admin buddies for VANDALISM I think? Anyway... I told THIS story on the admin page where instead of being smug, rude and cocky, he apologised to me and removed the quote saying that it was a mistake. This was certainly not a mistake... he tried fervently to keep tha page innaccurate and I have been blocked for suspending him and have also had a valid vote thwarted.

I just thought that you should know about it because your OPPOSE reasons mentioned his COHORTS/COMRADES that make up their gang.

Although the page now is just how I think it should be(factual), I am now very concerned that this chap will be ADMIN. He and his admin bully buddies can make life miserable for a LOT of wikifolk. It's just not cool.

You know how the kid acts nice and sweet when the teacher is watching and then twists your nipple when the teacher is not looking... thats what this guy does.

When the edit war was going on, his gang suspended me and then he told me "I AM ACTUALLY LAUGHING OUT LOUD".

Is this a fake vote from MrLefty?--->

Heres the one where they deleted my vote--->

I'm sure you know that I have waged a small war against this editor, Ryulong using a number of IPs and ISPs, but that does not invalidate anything I have said here.

Please look into my claims... I haven't lied and I think that you will see that my claims are true. If you have any sway AT ALL... don't let this 18yr old testosterone fueled, egomaniac become ADMIN. He will abuse the tools and will only bring misery.

Is that normal to delete someone's topic from a discussion seven times? Seems unfair somehow. He has no powers yet, but abuses his knowledge over others.

Mate, I'm very sorry for the essay.

Thanks for reading.

YourCousin--86.29.114.78 16:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Re Miroslaw Vitali

What right have you to DELETE the new article I just spent 1 1/2 hours on, without evenh discusssing with me???? Syrenab 15:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

My replies :) Dlohcierekim 16:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Crime Expo SA

Thanks for your message, and for your post to the article's deletion page. I only became aware of it when it was being linked to in numerous inappropriate places. If the lack of consensus leads to it being kept, as looks likely, we'll need to keep a close watch on which articles are linked to it. I agree with your view that it is essentially a non-notable blog. I would add that it also seems to be a political soapbox. Ah well. --Guinnog 23:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

AgentSoo RfA

Hi Dlohcierekim, I just wanted to clarify my reasoning for the oppose stance on AgentSoo's RfA. I came across something I'd said to Jono posted by Jono on Soos talk page. I simply asked him about it as I wondered if Jono was giving him some trouble. Its was a move made out of genuine concern for Soo as I wondered if he was being talk page harassed and generally just wondered what was going on. Perhaps I was tired or not paying attention at the time but I didn't see it to be an 'In Joke', largely because it was made at my expense.

He replied basically telling me 'no he couldn't/didn't want to explain'. So I took the time to research it and after a fair bit of reading around realised it was a somewhat dubious 'in-joke' made at my expense. But I've seen worse out there, I agree - not in itself a reason for an oppose stance. However, what I felt did constitute the oppose was the genreally unhelpful attitude and the "its none of your buissness why should I tell you" attitude he displayed. I didn't feel that was very becoming of an administrator. I took some fairly considerable time to read about and it meant that was time I wasn't editing or making diagrams for wikipedia.

My oppose is not a strong one but I feel this specific user would benefit from some more time editing and perhaps some 'more humility on user talk pages' as FrancisTyers put it. Some of the best admins i've come across are the ones who had to fight skin and bone over their RfA because of some dubious past incidents and I think this coupled with the issues puts soo in this category. I do honestly believe in a few months he could make a great admin, but just not right now. I hope this better explains my position, thanks. --WikipedianProlific 01:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I just wanted to contact you and clairfy my position as my initial explanation of my oppose was weak and I came across User talk:Agentsoo#Joke--RfA and felt I really ought to explain myself better as it wasn't the 'twat' comments themself that was the reasoning for my oppose, but rather the underlying attitude. Thanks. --WikipedianProlific 01:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

My responses :) Dlohcierekim 03:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

possible copy right problem

Image:Imgp0479 - lions club 800x600.jpg This is a picture someone took of a Lions_Clubs_International logo. As a Lion, I know LCIF enforces the copyright on its logo. It charges money for pins and other items containing the logo. I would recommend checking with LCIF about this. :) Dlohcierekim 21:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Another one Image:HK Lion International at the Peak of HK island.jpg Cheers. :) Dlohcierekim 22:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I may be wrong but, as of my understanding, pictures of logos are almost the same of logos themselves. The first image may be marked as {{logo}} and used when in accordance with WP:FAIR. The second one is in Commons, where unfree images are not accepted. Maybe you should raise the question there. I believe there's a possibility the image is discarded. --Abu Badali 01:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: nomination

Because I don't think someone with a good understanding of Misplaced Pages's processes and behavior standards would consider Minun as a good person to present them to the community, given Minun's arbitration case. Christopher Parham (talk) 17:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

My reply to his reply. :) Dlohcierekim 17:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

email I received about Kcor (band)

Gehaner <gehaner@yahoo.com> wrote:

On the band Kcor article I wrote. I will add how the band members meet.

I guess their clam to notability would be the fact that they had a recording contract with the same label ("The Legendary" Sun Studio "Birthplace of Rock 'n' Roll") as Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison and Johnny Cash had. If you think I need more notability let me know, I will work on it.

Thanks for helping me with this.

from User:Gehaner

I responed here (there is something wrong with my sig)

 :) Dlohcierekim 19:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC) ] 19:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Email from User talk:Wally600

Thanks re: Super Genius (band). The Boston Globe archives articles and charges for them, so there's no way to link the Steve Morse piece. You have to search their site then pay for each article. I'll look around and see if I can find it posted elsewhere...

I have replied here] 19:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

My rfa

See my original nomination for the questions and answers. The Wookieepedian 21:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Your Vote Reasoning (RfA Thadman 2)

"Strong oppose based on lack of needed experience editing and talking with other editors. The bit in nom about being "forced to withdraw" on prior RfA shows a lack of understanding of how Misplaced Pages works. Constructive critique-- Needs many more AfD and RCPatrol related edits to handle most pressing of admin tasks. Needs many more article edits to establish that he understands Misplaced Pages policies. Needs many more user and article talk edits to show he has the critical thinking skill to be an admin. Claims expertise on copyright, but I find no related edits in last 500. Does not need admin tools to Wikify. I did find ~280 AMA related entries in edit summaries. Misplaced Pages is about building an Encyclopedia. Please come back when you have broader experience. Cheers :)"

Just my opinion, but another person's written nomination generally shouldn't count against the nominee's RfA. I also wish to ask why admins must have wide experience in your view. Does an exceptional RC specialist have to been active in AfD in order for adminship in your book? --Wslack (talk) 00:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I did not consider that nominees could request corrections on their nomination, that's my bad, and I don't dispute that the language isn't good. My question on broadness isn't about consensus: That's easily seen in those two links. My question is about your personal wish for it, and your reasoning as per my question above. I also think that the word "Need" instead of "you might want" in constructive Critisism is rather oxymoronic, but that's just my thing.

Do you find my reason for support naive? --Wslack (talk) 01:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

My reply :) Dlohcierekim 01:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Well said sir. Thanks for your help. --Wslack (talk) 01:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

RE:OFA? 1FA?

• Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Standards
• User:Mailer diablo/One Featured Article
• User:Miborovsky/1FA

-- Миборовский 02:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. -- Миборовский 02:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

GHe's RfA

Hi Dlohcierekim! Thank you for taking part in my RfA! Unfortunately, it ended with a final result of (62/23/7), and with only 73% support, no consensus was achieved. Nevertheless, I'd like to thank you again for your support and better luck to me next time! :)  G.He 02:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Freddie Gambrell

If this one shows up again, you might want to hold off on the speedy. He actually googles pretty well, though the info in the article was so skimpy the speedy was justifiable. Fan-1967 03:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully he'll try again. My first instinct was to db it, too. Something about the article told me it was either total nonsense or might be for real. Happens. Fan-1967 03:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Verse

this is Verse. I am trying to creat an article about my music and myself as an artist. I am new to wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verse (talk • contribs) My response :) Dlohcierekim 02:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the chance to do this. It is going to be a biography page. And I will try to cite as many refs as possible. This isn't to inflate my popularity. I just wanted a site where people could get more info on me as an artist. I will try to get the guidelines down asap.

e mails on wiki topics moved to talk

Re: Article: George Leo Haydock

to Address Book Add Mobile Alert To: dlohcierekim@yahoo.com Subject: Article: George Leo Haydock Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:19:30 -0500

I put three apostrophe marks around the subject name and two apostrophe marks around words I wanted Italicized. However, it didn't work. What am I doing wrong? Thanks

skodoway

My Reply.  :) Dlohcierekim 20:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:50:34 GMT To: "Dlohcierekim" <dlohcierekim@yahoo.com> Subject: AFD on Israeli apartheid From: "Fullsome prison" <cwicanada@sympatico.ca> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert

Hi, since you voted on the last AFD I thought you might want to vote on the new one at [[Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid]]

(No wiki ID) perhaps it is Fullsome prison

{added from my email.

would have seen 'em on my talk. Now I'm aat work.}  :) Dlohcierekim 18:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello! Thank you for participating in my RfA! Unfortunately, it ended with a final result of (32/31/5) which no consensus was achieved. Nevertheless, I'd like to thank you again for your comments and to keep an eye out for me within the next 3 months. If you would like to give any helpful advice, please contact me via my suggestions page for my next RfA. :) SynergeticMaggot 22:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Opposed own RfA

Oh my! You have sharp eyes. Cheers. :) Dlohcierekim 13:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; this is about to get interesting... -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 13:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

JtKeifer's RfA

Hi Dlohcierekim,

I think you've done everything you can. I agree its a terrible mess and needs to be closed soon to prevent further damage to JtKeifer and Misplaced Pages. I don't know what he could have been thinking, but this was all bound to come out. A bad situation all round. I don't have further advise. I suspect it will be close by one of our excellent 'bcrats soon. If it goes on too long I may snowball it myself, but would much rather it be done properly by a 'bcrat. As always, best, Gwernol 16:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Super genius?

Hi. You said, "User:Phaedriel is a wonderful admin. She might be able to help you." Help me what? Also, I'm wondering what happened to the entry I wrote on the band "Super Genius" which you wrote me about. Is that what I need help on? It seems to have disappeared into the aether and laziness leads me to dread writing it again.

Best,

Wally600 17:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

My reply  :) Dlohcierekim 17:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. Way too much bother.

Best,

Wally600 01:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: RFA

Ehh, not all of us Hurricane people like each other. ;) Hurricanehink (talk) 21:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Image mess

Oh, there are tons of things to do. OrphanBot handles new images pretty well, but there is a load of stinking crap uploaded a year or so ago. I would go to Category:Fair use images and choose something I like. For example, there should be no images/pages in that main category, only sub-categories. So a more specific tag is needed for all those hundreds of images tagged with {{fairuse}}. Then I would make sure all those fair use images have an (1) adequate description (what is in the image and who made it), (2) source (most likely it should be a website), (3) low resolution (usually that means under 300x300px), (4) fair use rationale (I would have a heart attack if at least one of them had), is (5) actually used in some article, and is (6) actually necessary and useful.

Lack of (2), (4), and (5) are speedy deletion criteria. See rules on speedy deleting images points 4, 5 & 6. Without (1) you most likely will not have a source and a rationale. (3) is a violation of fair use claim and there are three things to do: a) list image on WP:IfD (don't really know if that's gonna work), b) resize the image and upload a smaller version, c) tag image with {{Fair use reduce}} and hope someone else will do it for you. (6) is common sense. I would listen to what Jimbo had to say at Wikimania, here, and realize that fair use should be used only when really badly needed. So for example, Image:Accom2.jpg is not really needed - it's a freaking dorm room. You can make 10000's such images yourself and they are going to be free. Image:2004gopconventionlaurabush.jpg is also not really needed. There are 1000's of PD images on White House website, why use fair use?

So, did I scare you enough? :) Renata 23:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I forgot (7) make sure that fair use images are used in appropriate articles. That includes checking against any other namespaces (e.g. Durin in on a quest to remove all fair use images from user space). For example, under fair use Playboy cover cannot be really used to illustrate a model. I know that everyone is doing it and if you try to do something about it you are gonna be yieled at, loud & strong. Specific example: Image:Teutonic order charge.jpg cannot be used in Teutonic Knights. It can only be used in author or game article. Renata 00:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, let's see what we have here:

• Image:175 sami omar alhussayen.jpg -> tag is ok, (3) resolution is ok, (4) rationale is ok (not great, but ok; rationale should be article-specific; see my changes), it is (5) used in one article and it (7) seems reasonable use (it's the guy's article). So far so good. The (2) source is a different matter: it gives a general link to the website, but does not link to a specific page where the image was found. That's not good. I did a quick goole image search and came up with direct link and updated image description. The image is also missing (1) description, which I added and which is not that vital. The image is (6) needed. There only 3 other images of this guy on the net and he is important in Sept. 11 timeline. Conclusion: no basis for speedy deletion. It cites source in a wrong manner, but still cites. No real basis for any kind of other deletion. It's important pic and fair use claim is fine. As always, there are several things to improve.
  • Amendment: The image was improved between your post on my talk and the time I saw it.

• Image:13C chemical shifts.gif -> again, improved before I saw it. But no doubt it should be deleted once easy timeline is done. Replace with free alternative, but don't forget to cite your original source.

• Image:17June1953DemonstratorsInBerlin.jpg -> it's a historically significant photo. I would make some effort to save it. See, you gotta use your judgement sometimes. For example, I am much more intolerant to fair use violations on various celebrity photos (where commercial interest is VERY high) than on some old historical photos not-quite-yet-in-the-public-domain. The image just needs its tag updated to {{HistoricPhoto}} and rationale written. Wanna try? ;) Renata 13:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, don't get discouraged. It takes time, trail & error, several screams at you and you are a pro! :) I am pretty sure that someone will dig up that I made same mistakes in the above comment. We all are humans and the uiversal human quality is making mistakes. As long as you learn something from them, you are good. Don't get discouraged, just try. Renata 13:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hey Dlo, just a quick note to let you know I withdrew my RfA at 13/11/10. Your questions really got me thinking, and I appreciate your defence of my 0FAs. Cheers for the support :) --james 11:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Goldom's RFA thanks

Thank you for your support on my RFA, which closed successfully this morning with a result of (53/2/1). I've spent the day trying out the new tools, and trying not to mess things up too badly :). I was quite thrilled with all the support, both from the people I see around every day, as well as many users who I didn't know from before, yet wrote such wonderful things about me. I look forward to helping to serve all of you, and the project. Let me know if there's anything I can help you with. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 04:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you very much for your continued support of my RFA nomination. I am very confident that it will succeed and I feel I owe a significant part of that to you, especially for the strong arguments you presented early on. Andrew Levine 21:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. I would like to have some clarification with regards to the question you posed to me in my RfA. In question number four, I would like to clarify some issues. Firstly, it was not me who typed in the statement most issues have been cleared up. Moreover, that was not my nomination statement. It was The Gerg who stated that particular statement. Perhaps, you could rephrase your question? Thank You for your understanding and patience. --Siva1979 05:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)