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I am already notified that ds applies to the Occupy article so if you want to write me up for spam at ] go ahead. However, many places encourage pointers to threads, provided one is not just pining favorable audience, which I'm not (see contribs). That makes my note at the refuge article ], and when TPG allows deletion of ] such pointers are not what it is talking about. Don't revert others talk page remarks, but you're welcome to request self revert. In this case, I respectfully decline. ] (]) 18:21, 16 January 2016 (UTC) I am already notified that ds applies to the Occupy article so if you want to write me up for spam at ] go ahead. However, many places encourage pointers to threads, provided one is not just pining favorable audience, which I'm not (see contribs). That makes my note at the refuge article ], and when TPG allows deletion of ] such pointers are not what it is talking about. Don't revert others talk page remarks, but you're welcome to request self revert. In this case, I respectfully decline. ] (]) 18:21, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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:: Abundant RSs are talking about the revitalized Sagebrush Rebellion. The ] article currently omits almost all coverage of that core purpose of the event. I was hoping to attract attention from watchers of many related pages across the spectrum. I expect the conversation will continue and turn into an RFC, and then I'll be posting RFC pointers at these same pages. Before I do so, perhaps you would be kind enough to explain the ''logical reasoning'' with which you applied the text of ] to my attempt at bringing multiple viewpoints and more editors to formulate a stronger and better consensus on article improvement? Would you have time to do that please? I don't plan to RFC the topic for a couple of days at least. Thanks. ] (]) 18:31, 16 January 2016 (UTC) :: Abundant RSs are talking about the revitalized Sagebrush Rebellion. The ] article currently omits almost all coverage of that core purpose of the event. I was hoping to attract attention from watchers of many related pages across the spectrum. I expect the conversation will continue and turn into an RFC, and then I'll be posting RFC pointers at these same pages. Before I do so, perhaps you would be kind enough to explain the ''logical reasoning'' with which you applied the text of ] to my attempt at bringing multiple viewpoints and more editors to formulate a stronger and better consensus on article improvement? Would you have time to do that please? I don't plan to RFC the topic for a couple of days at least. Thanks. ] (]) 18:31, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not interested in taking this further. Good luck. ] (]) 18:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, I see that you have some concerns about my edits to the Jules Bailey page. You flagged a potential conflict of interest. Mr. Bailey is a former employer and a friend. I did not regard that as a conflict of interest, but rather as a basis for knowing something about the topic (I've just edited a few pages, about topics where I have a relatively unique knowledge). I see, though, that such relationships fall within Misplaced Pages's "conflict of interest" policy. (Also, my edits were all done on my own initiative, in my own free time, and I received no payment or benefit.)

I was careful to include verifiable information and provide references. If you have concerns/doubts, you're free to remove content that you find inappropriate, or I'll work with you to bring the article to Misplaced Pages's standard of neutrality. Hburton86 (talk) 07:19, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Someone being a friend or employer inherently creates a situation where you might be less balanced than an un-involved impartial editor. Even when fastidiously trying to be impartial, you would naturally tend to discount controversies or cast an unwarranted positive bias if you like the person (and vice versa if you don't). The neutrality of Misplaced Pages is so important, it is the Second Pillar—see The Five Pillars. Please assume you have a conflict of interest and proceed very carefully as suggested in the COI warning. —EncMstr (talk) 09:36, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Just a quick comment before coffee: @Hburton86: the COI template was, like EncMstr suggested, informational, one I give to any editor who appears to have a COI on anything, anywhere on Misplaced Pages. You've not necessarily done anything "wrong". But you do in fact have a conflict of interest as you figured out. Many people just state this up front on the article talk page or on their user page and proceed carefully, again as suggested above. For example, I occasionally mention on related articles that I worked at the State Legislature, in case there is any doubt about my neutrality, and this invites closer scrutiny of my edits, which I welcome. I hope that explains. P.S. When you sign your posts, just put ~~~~, you don't have to write anything else. Valfontis (talk) 14:27, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
I concluded that, given my association with Jules Bailey, it's best if I refrain from editing this page. I have removed the sections that I recently added (covering his policy record) and moved this content to the talk page as suggested content. I do stand by what I wrote as being accurate, factual, and verifiable. However, it would be best if someone else would edit the page, perhaps using this as a starting point. Perhaps you could work on the Jules Bailey page or recruit another editor to work on it. Hburton86 (talk) 01:36, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
@Hburtono86: I apologize that I don't have the attention span to take this on myself. I've added {{Request edit}} to the page, so hopefully someone will come by to help out. Valfontis (talk) 16:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Samuel A. Weller

So I posted the Samuel Weller piece yesterday, and belatedly looked at Weller Pottery, which is relatively pitiful, IMHO. My question, though, has to do with duplication and the appropriate limits for the biography of Weller and the history of his company (which may also be used by viewers to learn about the various pottery lines). I tried to focus on Weller's character, relationships with his designers, and other details about his history and personality, but should part of this piece be moved to the article on the pottery? Cheers! Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Grand'mere Eugene: just wanted to know I'm not ignoring you! Just stuff and things right now. Hopefully I'll get back in a wiki groove soon. Valfontis (talk) 18:23, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
No rush, as the pottery page has been lacking for quite some time. I may tinker with it some to re-focus on the lines of pottery, and the differences between art pottery and the commercial lines. I'm at the beach and have time to think, but maybe I'm not so productive here...hope you are well and interviewing some interesting prospects. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's greetings



My best wishes to you and yours in this holiday season

and in the year ahead. Finetooth (talk) 18:08, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! You too! Valfontis (talk) 19:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

78.26's RFA Appreciation award

The 78.26 RFA Appreciation award
Thank you for the participation and support at my RFA. It is truly appreciated. I hope to be of further help around here, and if you see me doing something dumb, you know where to find me. Again, I thank you. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:13, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Congrats, @78.26:! I hope we can work together on another obscure podunk again one of these days. Valfontis (talk) 07:57, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Archiving talk pages

I seem to remember your mentioning (back in the dark ages a year or two back) that you sometimes archived exceedingly long talk pages. If it was you I talked to (and if it wasn't, please ignore!), could you tell me briefly how you tend to do that task? Do you cut and paste, or is there a robot out there that will parse a long page and make archives out of it? (I wish!) I occasionally run across some annoyingly long pages, and I'd like to make them more manageable. — Gorthian (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Hey Gorthian, (sadly) we met over the Oso Mudslide, right? Have you tried searching my archives? I do seem to remember that conversation too! Valfontis (talk) 02:51, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Ta da! Valfontis (talk) 02:55, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
...Search? D'oh! I found it myself, too. Sheesh. Thanks. You're quick! — Gorthian (talk) 03:08, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, Happy New Year! — Gorthian (talk) 03:08, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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Best wishes for a wonderful 2016!---- WV 00:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Cake & Coffee

It's my WikiBirthday, and just like in real life, I like to throw myself a party. Everyone have some cake! Gluten-free, free range, and organic. Valfontis (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Couldn't find any free-range cakes, so I hope you like chocolate.
Happy Birthday! Ten years, yikes! — Gorthian (talk) 03:59, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
P.S. Oregon is featured today. :-)
I love chocolate. And congrats to the long-lost @ZabMilenko: and @Little Mountain 5: and to @Finetooth: for today's featured article (and 100,000 edits, geeze louise!). Valfontis (talk) 04:06, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Happy birthday. Chocolate is great. I can take no credit for today's featured article, however. The credit goes to Little Mountain 5. Thank you for inviting me to your party. Finetooth (talk) 06:03, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations! I'd sing to you, but I'm not sure that would pass WP:FU. YBG (talk) 06:54, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
How did I miss this? Happy WikiBirthday! Geez, I'll be 10 as well this August! Thanks for forging that path. --Esprqii (talk) 23:46, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

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Context: Talk:Burns, Oregon

I am already notified that ds applies to the Occupy article so if you want to write me up for spam at WP:AE go ahead. However, many places encourage pointers to threads, provided one is not just pining favorable audience, which I'm not (see contribs). That makes my note at the refuge article WP:APPNOTE, and when TPG allows deletion of WP:SPAM such pointers are not what it is talking about. Don't revert others talk page remarks, but you're welcome to request self revert. In this case, I respectfully decline. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:21, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not going to "write you up", whatever that means. Feel free to tell me "don't" and what I'm welcome to do or not do though. As an admin with 10 years experience on the wiki, clearly I need to review some of the guidelines. Good luck. Valfontis (talk) 18:28, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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Oh, I see you are an admin. At WP:SPAM the nutshell bubble provies
This page in a nutshell Spam is the inappropriate addition of links or information to Misplaced Pages with the purpose of promoting an outside organization, individual or idea, and is considered harmful to the encyclopedia. Do not disrupt Misplaced Pages with spam. If you find spam, please remove or rewrite the content.
Abundant RSs are talking about the revitalized Sagebrush Rebellion. The Occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge article currently omits almost all coverage of that core purpose of the event. I was hoping to attract attention from watchers of many related pages across the spectrum. I expect the conversation will continue and turn into an RFC, and then I'll be posting RFC pointers at these same pages. Before I do so, perhaps you would be kind enough to explain the logical reasoning with which you applied the text of WP:SPAM to my attempt at bringing multiple viewpoints and more editors to formulate a stronger and better consensus on article improvement? Would you have time to do that please? I don't plan to RFC the topic for a couple of days at least. Thanks. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:31, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not interested in taking this further. Good luck. Valfontis (talk) 18:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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