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Internal link on Brian Peppers article

Thanks for the good explanation; I will revert. --Merovingian (T, C, @) 22:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:AN/I

I believe User:SPUI has something to tell you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#.7B.7Bvandal.7CElkman.7D.7D. I think I've officially crossed the line into being a vandal and a bad Wikipedian in general. Go ahead and apply the appropriate block; I've probably earned it. --Elkman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 22:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Rfa

Thanks for the notice. Tazmaniacs 12:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipediatrix

Tony, HELP! I do not know if you notice or not but Wikipediatrix has a very short fuse and seems to rub a lot of people the wrong way. We have articles on here that she has continually gotten involved in. When we have asked her to help us she became very confrontational and even claimed we were editing under different names. It got to the point that other editors were calling her down for her antics. I surely hope that this is not a regular problem that everyone has to deal with in thier dealings with her? She has tagged yet the same article on David L Cook for "cites" We went in and gave what we had. Such as a quote from Bob Hope. That comment was made at a banquet full of comedians and not recorded by television or radio. We have tried to explain these things and she still comes right back and tags everything again. I do not know if this is all she has to do all day but it certainly is very hard to deal with someone who has this kind of agenda. We are not Wiki savy and do not claim to be. We have gone in when we check these things to see if everything is done right and if not we try to fix them. I do not know how to cite the things she is talking about. Most of the things that are said between celebrities or at functions are not things that are citable in our opinion. Could you please help us? We need to get this woman off of our backs! She is very nasty. Thanks Daylon Ware IAMAS Corporation 9:14, 2006,25,07 (UTC)

She's doing a good job. Please see Verifiability and Reliable sources. If there is no reliable source for Bob Hope's opinion on David L. Cook, then we can't use it. --Tony Sidaway 13:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Deuterium/Bad edits

It looks more like a hit-list to me, and I don't appriciate being included on yet another one of these. I don't know if you noticed it, but Zeq has also expressed some concerns re being included on that list on the talkpage. -- Karl Meier 17:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Eluchil404's RfA

Thank you for taking the time to express an opinion in my recent request for adminship. I have withdrawn my self-nomination because there seemed little prospect for further productive discussion or the formation of a consensus to promote. Many commentators offered constructie critisism that I will use to improve myself as a user. Others suggested that the nomination was premature and that a re-nom in a few months would be more likely to gain consensus. I want to thank you in particular for pointing out specific areas where my contributions were deficient as that shows me where I should work to be a better editor. Eluchil404 19:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Mohit for speedy deletion

This article seems a purely imaginative narration by the author. This may look good in a story book, but not in an encyclopedia. BTW, I did a search on google to confirm my suspicions.--→Talk 12:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Three anonymous AOLers wrote on my talkpage.

One claimed to be Sceptre and two congratulated my on not snorting marijuana today. The history speaks for itself:

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— Ŭalabio‽ 00:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

BLESS YOU

Thank you for speedy deleting Jim Shapiro. I have been accused of sock-puppetry (I am not my husband and we are not one except in the eyes of the Church, and not even there since we are Jewish.) I have also been accused of calling my family 'consensus', although 11 different independent editors thought this article should be deleted. It is true that several attorneys weighed in on this, other than Gfwesq and me (who are both attorneys), for good reason. WIkipedia is not a vehicle to bash lawyers. I had not even heard of Jim Shapiro until I came across the 'article'. There is good reason why we haven't - this lawyer is 'famous' only in his own local area, and 'Overlawyerd' perhaps, since 'Overlawyered' sole aim is to disparage lawyers and they look for lawyers to criticize. Thank you again. You restored my faith in Misplaced Pages. jawesq 17:50, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Babur

Some IP is vandalizing the Babur page. I've reverted his changes two times, already. I do not want to violate the 3RR, so please have a look at the article. Thanks. Tājik 13:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Jim Shapiro

A second article James J. Shapiro was made with significant additions. I viewed the DRV on Jim Shapiro as being moot in this context, and unsalted Jim Shapiro for a redirect. I'd value your comments if you feel the new article is inappropriate. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 03:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

On the Table

Hi, me again. I noticed you haven't answered my email, even though I thought it was pretty reasonable. I would like to ask you something, and I swear I won't berate you for your answer, argue with you, or ask for an explanation or reply in any way or complain on any medium; you can delete my comments if I do. What I want to ask is, do you consider me a part of these "ED trolls" you've occassionally referenced or not? Obviously, I'm aware of my own good faith or lack thereof, but since the perception of my edits is seems to count more than anything, it will be helpful in the future to know if my actions are going to be seen as trolling or not, and since you seem at least more rational than other editors I've encountered, your opinion would be appreciated. You can reply here, at my talk page, by email, whatever. Thanks, Karwynn (talk) 15:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

User page versions of deleted (or otherwise) articles

Greetings Tony Sidaway, What's your view about main user pages becoming defacto articles? I can understand when a user has a copy of a deleted article (or working copy) say at User:Someuser/deleted (or worrking copy) article but when I see user pages such as User:Supplements I'm hard pressed to not see them as attempts to get around deletion policies. Thanks. Netscott 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

More Terryeo stuff

Please take a look at this: Image_talk:Superpowerbldg.jpg --Fahrenheit451 14:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Userbox

Hi Tony,

You'll get no argument from me on that one, as keeping the thing red seems almost impossible, but I doubt you'll convince everybody of that... Good luck! Best wishes, Xoloz 15:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Note

Please see this edit. Please don't expect a response while I am on a break. If you need a sysop, see this list. --Tony Sidaway 18:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

User logs

Hi Tony, could you please have a look at this breach of the copyright policy User Expatkiwi logs. -- Szvest 16:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Template:fact

Hi! Based on your contributions to the TfD for template:fact, I thought you might be interested in a proposal I have made to change the recommended use of {{fact}} prescribed in WP:Cite. dryguy 22:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Iloveminun

Just to let you know, the arbitration at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Iloveminun has closed. Check the link for details. -- Drini 03:02, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Moby Dick

Just to let you know, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Moby Dick case was just closed. You may want to check the link for the details. -- Drini 22:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Recusal

You're a man of integrity, Tony. Haukur 12:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Ready for archiving. --Tony Sidaway 12:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Trolling

It's getting old. Take it up with an RfC or RfAR if you feel strongly about it. Otherwise, stop with the name-calling. Karwynn (talk) 21:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

No, we'll just gather evidence and take action if necessary. If you're not here to cause problems, we'll have nothing and Misplaced Pages will have another active editor. If you make more problems, your past behavior will be taken into consideration. --Tony Sidaway 22:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

But you've already got enough evidence to call me a troll right? Unless you're superceding "assume good faith", and you wouldn't do that. So why not either stop calling me a troll or take it to RfAr? Karwynn (talk) 22:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't have blocked you if you hadn't trolled over that attack on MONGO. --Tony Sidaway 22:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Sure, why not. What about now? You didn't say in that comment that I have trolled, you said I am a troll. If I'm still a troll, take it to ArbCom please so we can get this cleared up. Karwynn (talk) 23:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

This is weak stuff. Just stay out of trouble and you'll be okay. --Tony Sidaway 23:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, by all means stay out of trouble (like this, for instance). -- User:RyanFreisling @ 23:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

That looks pretty disruptive and the link on his userpage in which he finds vandalism to article space funny is bothersome as well.--MONGO 23:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, laughing at vandalism is pretty disruptive and should not be allowed. --Karwynn (talk) 16:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

E.D. again

Talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica is active. Netscott 03:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks like Nandesuka got to the ball before me! :) --Tony Sidaway 10:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of Encyclopedia Dramatica you might like to have a look at Misplaced Pages:Embrace weasel words (notice the E.D. link at the bottom). (→Netscott) 10:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:TEA from MrDolomite

First off, my apologies for my edit in response to your edit of my comment. I clearly did so to make a WP:POINT, and to express that we should have taken this to our talk pages instead of the RfC. My orginal comment was an immediate pop culture reference train of thought as I read the thread. I'm a fan of A Few Good Men, as shown on my wikiquote user page. It was intended as an example to you specifically, and to the group as a whole (myself included), how the RfC has, and continues to be an example of how not to discuss issues. I'm having visions of all of us ending up using such sibling backseat logic as "Did not," "Did so," "I'm telling," "Stop touching me," and "You're on my side." Anyway, I have replaced the three edits above with this final one, which I hope conveys a disagreement between editors in better tone. I appreciate that you did not add to or re-remove the 3rd edit. That definitely would have fed my inner troll and not resulted in any productive discussions of the case at hand. So, in the spirit of assuming good faith and as an apology, I give you this WP:TEA. — MrDolomite | Talk 16:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Whatever. --Tony Sidaway 22:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

See, I knew you wouldn't be a WP:DOCK about my comment, but instead, take it in the ] it was intended. — MrDolomite | Talk 01:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Inexperienced editors

Can I ask what you consider you to be a threshold at which someone is no longer an inexperienced editor? rootology (T) 19:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

There isn't a hard threshold, but if for instance you look at the first ten editors endorsing Aeon's outside view you see:

1. Aeon1006 (talk · contribs) Very few edits before April.
2. MrDolomite (talk · contribs) No edits before March. Few edits overall.
3. Remember (talk · contribs) Very few edits before March.
4. Mecu (talk · contribs) No edits before June.
5. Attic_Owl (talk · contribs) No edits before three weeks ago. Blocked as a sock of Karmafist.
6. Dknights411 (talk · contribs) Obviously an experienced editor.
7. Herostratus (talk · contribs) Obviously an experienced editor. Administrator.
8. Z4ns4tsu (talk · contribs) No edits before March.
9. Kwh (talk · contribs) Obviously an experienced editor.
10. Masonpatriot (talk · contribs) Obviously an experienced editor.

So six out of the ten are very new. One is apparently a sock puppet and has been blocked. Just one of them seems to be an administrator (but I didn't check that too closely). This contrasts strongly with those who endorsed Kelly's response. --Tony Sidaway 19:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. Curious: would you consider me experienced, with my 2,800 odd? rootology (T) 19:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Nearly all very recent edits indeed. --Tony Sidaway 20:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Check out

this. rootology (T) 22:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Already responded. :) --Tony Sidaway 22:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Tony, didn't intend spam

I didn't intend that to be spam. I remembered your name from when the article-which-I-won't-link was very active and thought you might be interested in what appears to be the denoument of that story. My apologies for inadvertently spamming. — Saxifrage ✎ 21:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I just make a habit of ignoring solicitations. --Tony Sidaway 22:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

FYI

Another Kurdish related AfD, which seems disruptive IMHO: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kurdish celebration of Newroz. Bertilvidet 06:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I do of course accept if you find my inquiry groundless. I would however appreciate to know if it has been addressed. Bertilvidet 13:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Hagiographer

I have had problems with this user before. Thanks fort getting him to stop altering my user page in unpleasant ways. he has here altered my signature to that of another user, User:Pura Paja, please can you discourage him from doing so, SqueakBox 03:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Alienus

This arbitration case has closed and the final decision is published at the link above.

Sam Korn 15:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Sheldon Brown (bicycle mechanic)

Don't let the modest title confuse you: Sheldon is a bicycle god. I noinated him for an award from the UK's largest cycling club in 2004, and sent the certificate to him myself with the greatest of pleasure and at my own expense. This is not a criticism: the article did not make much of a case. Just zis Guy you know? 23:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. Always happy to be set right on fact. --Tony Sidaway 23:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Never mind the sollogs

Hi. As you had a clear opinion on its predecessor, I thought you might also have one on this. (Though of course you're away right now....) -- Hoary 04:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Moby Dick is back on hos harrasment parole

Moby Dick is back. Please see the ANB/I case. --Cat out 11:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Boston, Ontario

Completely inappropriate yet again. You must stop doing this. WP:SNOW cannot be invoked, and you are completely out of process in closing things early. STOP. There was not a single completed AfD in this case, and a major process issue to boot. --Badlydrawnjeff 18:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Fuck process, or at least process for its own sake. The deletion review was obviously going to end in an overwhelming endorsement for SynergeticMaggot's close, so no harm done. --Tony Sidaway 18:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

A redirect you might get some use out of ....

WP:FUCKPROCESS --Cyde Weys 18:56, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Might I suggest not tossing cans of oil on a fire? I think he knows where WP:SNOW is. :) SynergeticMaggot 19:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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