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This is a '''Request for Comment''' concerning how to indicate the scientific views on the safety of genetically modified crops for human consumption. | This is a '''Request for Comment''' concerning how to indicate the scientific views on the safety of genetically modified crops for human consumption. | ||
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Under the authority granted to me as an uninvolved Administrator and by the terms of the ], and ] as ], I hereby impose the following limits on debate: | Under the authority granted to me as an uninvolved Administrator and by the terms of the ], and ] as ], I hereby impose the following limits on debate: | ||
*All editors who participate in this RfC will receive a Discretionary Sanctions notice on their user talk page. This is purely procedural and not to indicate any wrongdoing; it is merely a notification that this topic area is subject to sanctions imposed by the Arbitration Committee. | *All editors who participate in this RfC will receive a Discretionary Sanctions notice on their user talk page. This is purely procedural and not intended to indicate any wrongdoing; it is merely a notification that this topic area is subject to sanctions imposed by the Arbitration Committee. | ||
*Nobody is required to participate in this RfC, and anybody may cease participation at any time for any reason. If you have received a notification about this RfC, it is because someone believes you may have something to contribute. However, it is in everyone's best interest that we solicit a wide range of opinions so that we may achieve a strong consensus. | *Nobody is required to participate in this RfC, and anybody may cease participation at any time for any reason. If you have received a notification about this RfC, it is because someone believes you may have something to contribute. However, it is in everyone's best interest that we solicit a wide range of opinions so that we may achieve a strong consensus. | ||
*If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is ], but instead a ''discussion'' among Misplaced Pages contributors. Misplaced Pages has ] regarding the encyclopedia's content, and ] (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes. | *If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is ], but instead a ''discussion'' among Misplaced Pages contributors. Misplaced Pages has ] regarding the encyclopedia's content, and ] (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes. | ||
*Editors will sometimes make mistakes, suffer occasional lapses of judgment, and ignore all rules from time to time in well-meaning furtherance of the project's goals. However, '''all editors are required to maintain a proper level of decorum'''. Unnecessary rudeness, hostility, casting aspersions, and battleground mentality '''will not be tolerated''' here, in the interest of arriving at a clear, fair-minded consensus. Inappropriate conduct may be met with warnings, blocks, or bans from further participation in this RfC as the administrator deems necessary. To foster a collaborative atmosphere, editors are encouraged not to bring statements made here to Arbitration Enforcement, but rather to leave it to the patrolling admins. | *Editors will sometimes make mistakes, suffer occasional lapses of judgment, and ] from time to time in well-meaning furtherance of the project's goals. However, '''all editors are required to maintain a proper level of decorum'''. Unnecessary rudeness, hostility, casting aspersions, and battleground mentality '''will not be tolerated''' here, in the interest of arriving at a clear, fair-minded consensus. Inappropriate conduct may be met with warnings, blocks, or bans from further participation in this RfC as the administrator deems necessary. To foster a collaborative atmosphere, editors are encouraged not to bring statements made here to Arbitration Enforcement, but rather to leave it to the patrolling admins. | ||
*The '''sole purpose''' of this RfC is to determine consensus about a specific question concerning article content. It is not a venue for personal opinions about GMOs in general, nor a place to relitigate past disputes. | *The '''sole purpose''' of this RfC is to determine consensus about a specific question concerning article content. It is not a venue for personal opinions about GMOs in general, nor a place to relitigate past disputes. | ||
*This RfC is strictly about article content, '''not about user conduct'''. ] was retired years ago. If it becomes about user conduct, Arbcom will likely get involved, and nobody wants that. If you believe that a user is violating policy or the rules set forth by Arbcom or by this page, and you cannot work it out between yourselves, please speak to an Enforcement admin. If you believe an admin is behaving inappropriately, their decisions may be appealed to ], ] or Arbcom directly. | *This RfC is strictly about article content, '''not about user conduct'''. ] was retired years ago. If it becomes about user conduct, Arbcom will likely get involved, and nobody wants that. If you believe that a user is violating policy or the rules set forth by Arbcom or by this page, and you cannot work it out between yourselves, please speak to an Enforcement admin. If you believe an admin is behaving inappropriately, their decisions may be appealed to ], ] or Arbcom directly. | ||
*Please '''do not make changes''' in proposals that have already been posted. '''Anyone is permitted to post additional proposals |
*Please '''do not make changes''' in proposals that have already been posted. '''Anyone is permitted to post additional proposals''', below the existing proposals. | ||
*'''Threaded discussion is prohibited on the RfC page'''. To comment in the RfC, you '''must''' create '''your own section''' within the ] section, placing your username in the section header. Within your own section, you may present your opinions on the proposals, and briefly pose questions to other editors or respond to questions from other editors. '''Do not make any edits in any other editor's section'''. A section may be edited '''only''' by the editor to whom it corresponds, and by enforcing administrators. Editors are encouraged to discuss and collaborate with one another on the RfC Talk page, where threaded discussion is permitted and there are no word limits. | |||
*In each comment section, each editor is '''strictly limited to 800 words'''. There will be no exceptions. Excessively long statements will be hatted until shortened. | |||
*This RfC will run for '''the full 30 days''', unless additional time is needed to judge consensus. Because this is such a contentious area, closing early as per ] is highly discouraged. | *This RfC will run for '''the full 30 days''', unless additional time is needed to judge consensus. Because this is such a contentious area, closing early as per ] is highly discouraged. | ||
*If we fail to achieve a consensus or at least move closer towards one, this topic area will likely end up at Arbcom again. Nobody wants that. '''The RfC will be closed by a panel of three uninvolved admins'''. Three shall be the number of administrators, and the number of the administrators shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Since I will be helping mediate here, I recuse myself from being a closing admin. <small>This should probably be revised after we have the 3 people, to simply name them.</small> | *If we fail to achieve a consensus or at least move closer towards one, this topic area will likely end up at Arbcom again. Nobody wants that. '''The RfC will be closed by a panel of three uninvolved admins'''. Three shall be the number of administrators, and the number of the administrators shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Since I will be helping mediate here, I recuse myself from being a closing admin. <small>This should probably be revised after we have the 3 people, to simply name them.</small> | ||
*The consensus reached (if any) '''will be imposed as a Discretionary Sanction''' on the topic area, broadly construed. It may be overturned only by another |
*The consensus reached (if any) '''will be imposed as a Discretionary Sanction''' on the topic area, broadly construed. It may be overturned only by another widely published full 30-day RfC, a consensus of administrators at ], or by decree of the Arbitration Committee or Jimbo Wales. | ||
*In the Statement area, editors are limited to 500 words. An additional 250 words shall be allotted for response to other editors. Excessively long statements will be hatted until shortened. Comments and !votes on the proposals listed are limited to 200 words. Editors are encouraged to discuss and collaborate with one another on the RfC Talk page, where there the above word limits are relaxed. | |||
*Finally, if you have issue with my own conduct or with these rules, I request that you please discuss with me on my own user talk page before escalating. I am always willing to listen to a reasonable argument. | *Finally, if you have issue with my own conduct or with these rules, I request that you please discuss with me on my own user talk page before escalating. I am always willing to listen to a reasonable argument. | ||
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Introduction
This is a Request for Comment concerning how to indicate the scientific views on the safety of genetically modified crops for human consumption.
Rules
Under the authority granted to me as an uninvolved Administrator and by the terms of the Arbitration Committee GMO case, and Standard Discretionary Sanctions as authorized by that case, I hereby impose the following limits on debate:
- All editors who participate in this RfC will receive a Discretionary Sanctions notice on their user talk page. This is purely procedural and not intended to indicate any wrongdoing; it is merely a notification that this topic area is subject to sanctions imposed by the Arbitration Committee.
- Nobody is required to participate in this RfC, and anybody may cease participation at any time for any reason. If you have received a notification about this RfC, it is because someone believes you may have something to contribute. However, it is in everyone's best interest that we solicit a wide range of opinions so that we may achieve a strong consensus.
- If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is not a majority vote, but instead a discussion among Misplaced Pages contributors. Misplaced Pages has policies and guidelines regarding the encyclopedia's content, and consensus (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes.
- Editors will sometimes make mistakes, suffer occasional lapses of judgment, and ignore all rules from time to time in well-meaning furtherance of the project's goals. However, all editors are required to maintain a proper level of decorum. Unnecessary rudeness, hostility, casting aspersions, and battleground mentality will not be tolerated here, in the interest of arriving at a clear, fair-minded consensus. Inappropriate conduct may be met with warnings, blocks, or bans from further participation in this RfC as the administrator deems necessary. To foster a collaborative atmosphere, editors are encouraged not to bring statements made here to Arbitration Enforcement, but rather to leave it to the patrolling admins.
- The sole purpose of this RfC is to determine consensus about a specific question concerning article content. It is not a venue for personal opinions about GMOs in general, nor a place to relitigate past disputes.
- This RfC is strictly about article content, not about user conduct. WP:RFC/U was retired years ago. If it becomes about user conduct, Arbcom will likely get involved, and nobody wants that. If you believe that a user is violating policy or the rules set forth by Arbcom or by this page, and you cannot work it out between yourselves, please speak to an Enforcement admin. If you believe an admin is behaving inappropriately, their decisions may be appealed to WP:ANI, WP:AE or Arbcom directly.
- Please do not make changes in proposals that have already been posted. Anyone is permitted to post additional proposals, below the existing proposals.
- Threaded discussion is prohibited on the RfC page. To comment in the RfC, you must create your own section within the Comments section, placing your username in the section header. Within your own section, you may present your opinions on the proposals, and briefly pose questions to other editors or respond to questions from other editors. Do not make any edits in any other editor's section. A section may be edited only by the editor to whom it corresponds, and by enforcing administrators. Editors are encouraged to discuss and collaborate with one another on the RfC Talk page, where threaded discussion is permitted and there are no word limits.
- In each comment section, each editor is strictly limited to 800 words. There will be no exceptions. Excessively long statements will be hatted until shortened.
- This RfC will run for the full 30 days, unless additional time is needed to judge consensus. Because this is such a contentious area, closing early as per WP:SNOW is highly discouraged.
- If we fail to achieve a consensus or at least move closer towards one, this topic area will likely end up at Arbcom again. Nobody wants that. The RfC will be closed by a panel of three uninvolved admins. Three shall be the number of administrators, and the number of the administrators shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Since I will be helping mediate here, I recuse myself from being a closing admin. This should probably be revised after we have the 3 people, to simply name them.
- The consensus reached (if any) will be imposed as a Discretionary Sanction on the topic area, broadly construed. It may be overturned only by another widely published full 30-day RfC, a consensus of administrators at WP:AE, or by decree of the Arbitration Committee or Jimbo Wales.
- Finally, if you have issue with my own conduct or with these rules, I request that you please discuss with me on my own user talk page before escalating. I am always willing to listen to a reasonable argument.
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Locus of the dispute
The following pages are affected by this RfC:
- Genetically modified food controversies (lead and health section)
- Genetically modified crops (lead and controversy section)
- Genetically modified food (lead and health and safety section)
- Genetically modified organism (controversy section)
- Genetically modified maize (controversy section)
- March Against Monsanto (background section)
- The Non-GMO Project (mission section)
- Regulation of the release of genetically modified organisms (lead)
Each of these pages has language similar to: There is general scientific agreement that food on the market derived from GM crops poses no greater risk to human health than conventional food, but should be tested on a case-by-case basis.
Editors are generally dissatisfied with this wording, but disagree about how to revise it. This RfC presents options for content to replace that wording, and is intended to determine community consensus about that.
Previous attempts at resolution
- Talk:Genetically modified food/Archive 10#RfC - "The scientific consensus holds that currently marketed GM food poses no greater risk than conventional food."
- Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms
- Talk:Genetically modified crops#General agreement sentence, continued
- Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Amendment request: Genetically modified organisms
Policies, guidelines and essays to keep in mind
- Discretionary Sanctions
- Civility
- BLP
- Verifiability
- NPOV
- Fringe theories
- Pseudoscience
- Undue weight
- Scientific consensus
- Reliable sources (human health)
Proposals
Proposal 1
There is a scientific consensus that currently available food derived from GM crops poses no greater risk to human health than conventional food, but that each GM food needs to be tested on a case-by-case basis before introduction. Nonetheless, members of the public are much less likely than scientists to perceive GM foods as safe. The legal and regulatory status of GM foods varies by country, with some nations banning or restricting them, and others permitting them with widely differing degrees of regulation.
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Proposal 2
The safety assessment of GM food is based on the science of substantial equivalence, which compares GM foods with similar traditional foods that have proven safe to eat over time. In countries with GM food regulations, approval by national regulatory agencies means that a GM food is considered to be as safe to eat as a comparable conventional food. In addition, there is no evidence to date of harm caused by eating GM food; for instance, a 2013 review of 1,783 scientific papers on GE crop safety concluded that "research conducted so far has not detected any significant hazard directly connected with the use of GM crops." Nonetheless, there is significant public mistrust of GM food and the science supporting it.
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Proposal 3
The science community holds a variety of opinions on GMOs.
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Proposal 4
A number of major American scientific organizations (American Medical Association, AAAS, National Research Council) and other international scientific organizations have embraced GMOs and assert that they are as safe for human consumption as food derived from conventional breeding, and hence should not require special testing or labeling if they are substantially equivalent to the conventional product. But other major scientific organizations disagree (e.g. British Medical Association, Royal Society of Canada, Public Health Australia), stating that GMOs need medium and long term studies or that current safety regulatory assessments are insufficient. Scientific review articles on GM food safety are divided between those following the American approach of assuming GMOs are Generally Recognized as Safe and those that are more skeptical. Numerous countries such as those in the E.U. use a different approach from U.S., following the Precautionary Principle by requiring additional testing and/or labeling under the Cartagena Protocol on Biosafety. Some countries ban GM food imports and/or production entirely. International organizations (WHO and the U.N.'s FAO) state that GM food that has been approved is safe to eat and no significant health hazards have arisen from GM food. (See also .)
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Proposal 5
There is a scientific consensus that currently available food derived from GM crops poses no greater risk to human health than conventional food. There are benefits to farmers, the environment, and consumers, and evidence of harm caused by delays in adoption of genetically modified crops. However, scientists also say that it may be difficult to evaluate possible unintended effects, and that each GM food needs to be tested on a case-by-case basis before introduction. Nonetheless, members of the public are much less likely than scientists to perceive GM foods as safe. The legal and regulatory status of GM foods varies by country, with some nations banning or restricting them, and others permitting them with widely differing degrees of regulation.
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Proposal 6
Add new proposals below.
Comments
Comments by Editor
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