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Hello, JaberEl-Hour, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions have removed content without an explanation. If you'd like to experiment with the wiki's syntax, please do so in the sandbox rather than in articles.

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April 2016

Hello. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Flag of Syria without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. —C.Fred (talk) 04:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, JaberEl-Hour. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the article Flag of Syria, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, please:

• avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your circle, your organization, its competitors, projects or products;
• instead propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
• when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
• avoid linking to the Misplaced Pages article or website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
• exercise great caution so that you do not violate Misplaced Pages's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 00:03, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 02:39, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Conflict of interest in Misplaced Pages

JaberEl-Hour. Hello. On your User page, you write: "I hope I participate well in the wiki".

I work on conflict of interest issues here in Misplaced Pages, along with my regular editing, and my attention was called to your editing by the post at COIN linked above.

In my view, you are not participating well. As an opposition politician, you have a very, very clear conflict of interest on Syrian politics, and your editing is not neutral. It is very, very far from neutral. And this comment to C. Fred is completely unacceptable in Misplaced Pages.

What we ask of editors who have a conflict of interest, are two things. First, declare your COI on your userpage. You should post the information you told to C. Fred on your Userpage. Second, we ask editors with a COI not to edit articles, but rather to propose changes on the Talk page. Would you please agree to do those two things? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 09:33, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

@Jytdog Excuse me, but first let me notify you to lower the tune you are speaking with me in. You should understand that you are talking to a well-known politician, not some random guy who uses the internet. So please, Be respectful. Second, I don't take orders from anyone. I am working peacefully. If I want to edit war I can. If I want to start to say bad words I can. Third, I am not one of your children to tell me that this is acceptable and this is not. Please understand your limits when you talk with someone that has a higher level than you. Thank you.JaberEl-Hour (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

With all due respect, Jytdog is speaking to you as a peer because, on Misplaced Pages, you are his peer. Nobody's edits carry any more weight, nor does anybody outrank anybody, based on their outside positions. Even as an administrator, I don't outrank anybody else on Misplaced Pages because of that status. I have an extra set of tools I've been entrusted with, but also with the responsibility to use those tools properly. In many cases, other editors will defer to an administrator's opinion because of experience with the rules, policies, and tools on Misplaced Pages, but if I'm actively editing an article, my edits carry the same weight as any other contributor.

Also, you may not edit war, whether you want to or not. Edit warring is specifically disallowed, and any editor who edit wars—or who violates the three revert rule, may be blocked. This is an established policy of the community, and if you want to be part of the community, you must abide by it. —C.Fred (talk) 23:31, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

@C.Fred Thanks for your "respect". JaberEl-Hour (talk) 23:47, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Jaber, Misplaced Pages is not a "wild west" - we do have a kind of "rule of law" here. You are breaking that "law". There are consequences for that - you can be blocked from editing. The "rule of law" is defined by the policies and guidelines, and if you consistently violate them - and you have already established a pattern of breaking them - you will lose your editing privileges. I am happy to help you get oriented here, but you need to try to work with us. As a first step, will you please acknowledge that you have a conflict of interest with regard to Syrian topics here in Misplaced Pages? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 21:34, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

كلا ولست خائفا مما ستفعلونه يا غرب يا حثالة. @Jytdog`JaberEl-Hour (talk) 07:08, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Okay... I was passing by here and decided to pop that into Google Translate. Something about not being scared and "Western scum." Tone it down. (Also, if you absolutely must insult people, please do it in a language they can understand.Hobbes Novakoff (talk) 03:55, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't take orders from you.JaberEl-Hour (talk) 00:25, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks is a policy that applies to all editors on Misplaced Pages. As part of that policy, editors are expected to remain civil during discussions on Misplaced Pages, including comments on user talk pages. —C.Fred (talk) 00:28, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, but I didn't attack anybody.JaberEl-Hour (talk) 00:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

A comment addressed to a specific user that includes a phrase that translates as "Western scum" is reasonably interpreted as an attack. —C.Fred (talk) 00:39, 28 April 2016 (UTC)\

First, you don't trust google translate. Second, I wasn't attacking him, I was belittiling the West.JaberEl-Hour (talk) 00:41, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I don't trust Google Translate. However, remember that the vast majority of users of the English Misplaced Pages do not speak Arabic and will go to machine translation services to figure out what you wrote, when you write in another language. Also, given your editing history, it would not be a leap of logic to feel that a general comment about the West was really a veiled comment toward Western editors. —C.Fred (talk) 00:44, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@C.Fred I don't have time to start fights. I am a busy man. You got something useful to say you are welcome. You got nothing go play somewhere else.JaberEl-Hour (talk) 01:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

No, he will not "play somewhere else". This is a concern. Also, considering the vast majority of Wikipedians live in Europe or North America, it is not a good idea to say something like that, as it is offensive. This is the English Misplaced Pages, for people to speak in ENGLISH. You are involved in COI editing ( see WP:COI), you are not being neutral and have an obvious affiliation with the topic. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 16:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

@ThePlatypusofDoom No one invited you to the topic. So I can say It's not your bussiness. And I don't care about your feelings too, so it doesn't matter for me if it is offensive for you. Stop wasting my time WESTERN.JaberEl-Hour (talk) 23:15, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

First, I was invited here because I patrol WP:COIN, so I'm perfectly within Misplaced Pages rules to be here. Also, You are violating WP:NPA, so it is my problem. WP:NOTCENSORED doesn't apply here, due to this being an insult. You are not WP:HERE. Read over the rules. If you keep this up an admin will block you, possibly your IP as well. If you hate westerners, you probably shouldn't edit the English Misplaced Pages. Edit the Arabic Misplaced Pages. If I am wasting your time, you are wasting the time of many admins who are trying to actually improve the encyclopedia. Note that the westerners in this conversation are not trying to hurt the encyclopedia, unlike you. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 14:28, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL

Hi! I would urge you to please read WP:CIVIL. This edit doesn't seem very civil to me and it would be good if you remove it. Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a collaborative atmosphere where everyone can participate without insulting people on the basis of race/ethnicity/nationality/region etc. Thank you. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)