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The First Geneva Convention (1864) is one of the earliest formulations of international law. Hello, Irondome. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: International law Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Coffee production in Cuba • Goods and services Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Request for assistance

Hello Irondome,

I'm new to Misplaced Pages editing so I hope I'm doing this the correct way. I feel like I'm being harassed/attacked by two people with respect to an article where I am trying to make what I consider to be a small addition (a one or two-paragraph sub-heading). The individuals involved don't seem to be interested in reaching consensus; they seem to be interested in shutting me down. They also repeatedly threaten to 'take action' against me for edit warring, whereas I believe that their constant and wholesale reversion of (literally) anything that I write is in itself an edit war.

You have many kudos for diplomacy and whereas I am certainly capable of being diplomatic (and in fact worked as a 'diplomat' in my nation's embassy for a time), I am considerably less so when I feel I'm being threatened. I would be happy to discuss the situation with those involved, but it appears that they have no interest in doing so and that their goal is to 'win'. I've also realized that they know very little about the subject in question - they recite 'facts' as to why their view should prevail, however their 'facts' are wrong. I feel very much put upon and the issue has become rather upsetting.

I do feel that the persons involved have some sort of connections and emotional, or possibly political, involvement with the subject as their reactions (to me) seem entirely out of proportion to issue involved. However I don't like being bullied, which is why I'm not willing to just walk away and say 'never mind'.

Anyway, I hope that you can help me get this straightened out. If you don't have time right now I understand, please try to let me know if that's the case. The reason I'm asking you rather than someone else is that your offer to volunteer was one of most recent (I believe third-newest) so I believe that you are more likely to be available than someone who wrote several years ago, you seem multi-faceted, and you don't appear to have any overt political or philosophical biases (even though I don't feel the instant matter is or should be controversial, the very strong dislike I feel coming from the other parties makes me believe that there's some underlying reason other than disliking the two brief paragraphs I added to the article).

The situation as brief as I can make it: The matter involves a Misplaced Pages article named "Newton Public Schools". It is about a school district in Newton, Massachusetts, U.S. The schools that comprise the district are state-supported (called 'public schools' in the U.S.; I believe however that term has a different meaning in the U.K).

Most of the article is standard and innocuous; however there is a section at the end called "Controversies" which is the source of the problem. There were three sub-headings to the "Controversies" section; I have been trying to add a fourth; I also made minor changes in one or two of the other sub-headings so that they accurate.

The headings are:

1. Textbook controversy - the issue as to whether supplemental material used by high school students in history courses is inaccurate, biased, or anti-Israel has been an ongoing controversy in the community for several years. It has been the subject of newspaper articles and a "Call for Action" by Jewish, community, and education groups and has been the subject of media reports in several U.S. states and in Israel. (I think there were three or four sentences in this section). Also, in an unusual move, the district removed a widely used supplemental text and also removed items from a list of recommended sources.

2. Superintendent Plagiarism - the district's superintendent was found to have plagiarized a speech he gave during a high school graduation ceremony and was fined. In another district where this happened, the superintendent was forced to resign. (I believe there were two sentences).

3. Violation of State Open Meeting Laws - in connection with the plagiarism, the state Attorney General (government prosecutor) found that the school district and Chair of the School Committee violated state law on eight separate occasions. (I think three sentences).

all of the above, plus the events in the fourth section below occurred within a few months of each other.

4. Last year, the state Department of Education found that the district and Chair of the School Committee had engaged in illegal retaliation against a student whose parent had been involved in the textbook issue. As far as can be ascertained, this is the first time in state history that a standing administrator has been found to have violated education law (in this case, student confidentiality law). A federal investigation is ongoing.

I have just realized that the other editors have deleted a post I made in the 'Talk' section of the article and also deleted the last six months of History for the article. This is beyond outrageous.

This is the last couple of posts (including mine) from the Talk section:

This week's article for improvement (week 50, 2015)

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Hey!

Hey Simon. Haven't seen you around in a few days. I hope that's not because of me. Listen, my foray into self-hatred has mostly ended. I'm just going to edit where I don't have to interact with other human beings as much, particularly those who hate me. Basically I'm going to maintain a discrete editing presence. I'm not going to restore user page. People would use stuff on it against me, particularly my age. And probably my gender subconsciously. And of course my participation in wikproject:Jewish history would render me "biased". I'm awfully sorry if I've hurt you in any way.--Monochrome_Monitor 14:31, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi MM, hope you are good. More detailed reply later. Simon. Irondome (talk) 14:31, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

When is later?--Monochrome_Monitor 14:44, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Later is when I stop being massively pissed off by the pedia and the freaks that you barge into while wandering it's ill-lit corridors. I am more concerned about you MM. Drop me an email if you wanna unload. Irondome (talk) 21:41, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

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I would like to edit the 2006–07 A.C. Milan season by adding the Coppa Italia and the regular season matches, I would also like to know the duration of the mentorship, as I think it has ended long ago, it started on 14 July for a duration of 4 weeks, next Thursday will be 8 Week double the amount. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 00:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Ok Alexis, ended. You did very well and co-operated to the letter. I wish you well and remember I am always here to help out. Good luck mate :) Irondome (talk) 13:30, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for being a great mentor, yes I will remember this advice and be back here if any assistance I need. :) Alexis Ivanov (talk) 03:52, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

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Volatile edit

Just want to give a heads up, I restored Wahhabi sack of Karbala to it's stable version because of an ongoing discussion in talk page, that hasn't reached a consensus yet and one user using a hostile language. Your advice will be welcomed. Alexis Ivanov (talk)

I have it on my watch list now. Your edit seems very reasonable Alexis. It appears to be a volatile subject. Exercise caution. Irondome (talk) 16:57, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes sir. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 21:03, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Abuse from Alexis Ivanov

I understand that you are (or have been) acting as a mentor for Alexis Ivanov after his past abuse of editor's talk pages and other examples of incivility . He has been renewing his abusive habits, this time on my talk page , restoring content that I have deleted. It does appear that he has learned nothing ("like a bully who hasn't learned their lesson" to borrow an editor's earlier characterization of his behavior). Please stress to him the probable consequences if he ever repeats this activity, either on my page or on that of any editor's talk page. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 19:37, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Tiptoethrutheminefield a/ who is MHussein? b/ the edit hardly constitutes a major issue. I would suggest you stick to the talkpage to resolve the difference. Irondome (talk) 20:33, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

I am surprised that someone who considers themselves knowledgeable enough to mentor someone found guilty of talkpage abuse would not know that restoring deleted content from another user's talkpage is considered offensive behavior (and in this case the offense is compounded by its repetition even after the clear warning I gave here). Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:56, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

• First, do not attempt sarcasm with me. second, you appear to be provoking drama over a handful of minor edits. I have told you that this should be dealt with at the appropriate talkpage. I hope this is not an unseemly rush to the draama boards. Alexis Ivanov a template can be removed after the reader has taken the message on board. I am assuming tiptoethroughtheminefield is now aware of the point you were making. Irondome (talk) 22:09, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Tiptoethrutheminefield I can't change my past misdeeds, but what I can do now is walk in straight path and make Misplaced Pages vandal free. It is sad that Tiptoe is trying to open all wounds. I'm just going to go and let Simon deal with you. As of MMhussein is a user who contributed in the article and gave warning towards tiptoe's hostile behavior, in his own talk page. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 21:06, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Since the abusive behavior has continued despite the warning I gave, I am now going to raise the matter with the closing administrator. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:33, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

I do not think that would be a wise move frankly, and at this stage. Irondome (talk) 21:36, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Alexis Ivanov, do not template the regulars please, and refrain from editing this article for now. I want to see some self- control from you in the face of provocation. Irondome (talk) 22:18, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Of course, I'm doing other edits as we speak. I'm no longer interested in entering battleground and poking the bear. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Good. Then by any sane measurement this subject is closed. Templating was not wise, so do not do it again, restoring it was dumb. If you have anything to say regarding civility, drop a post, using rigid self-control in wording. Do you copy? Irondome (talk) 22:25, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes I copy Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:37, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

By templating you mean restoring the warning in his talk page. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:38, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

By doing it in the first place and restoring it Alexis, yes. Templating except in extreme circumstances is crap. If you have anything to say, drop a post using your own words. At all times keep great control over the words you use also. Irondome (talk) 22:42, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Got it, I am very careful with my words, I didn't like how this user was hostile towards Mhhossein, a long time contributor and respectable member of the community. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:48, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

I am sure Mhh can look after themselves Alex :) Do not get drawn into things and keep control at all times. Irondome (talk) 22:56, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Dully noted Alexis Ivanov (talk) 23:02, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Alexis Ivanov: Per my previous experience with such users, they nearly always find their ropes through a natural process! However, thanks for being concerned regarding his attack toward me. --Mhhossein 06:20, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

As a result of the above, and advice from Ymblanter, I will be opening an ANI case concerning Alexis Ivanov. If Irondome contributes to it I will also be mentioning the apparent encouragement of Alexis Ivanov from Irondome: his obvious failure in mentoring Alexis Ivanov, his apparent ignorance regarding guidance on talk pages, his lack of a backup warning to Alexis Ivanov about his behavior after my warning given here to him to not repeat the action and my request to Irondome to give an additional warning (this is likely to have led to Alexis Ivanov assuming that there was nothing wrong in his actions), and also his very troubling language here. Irondome states "in the face of provocation" - does Irondome actually consider that the removal of harassment posts made on personal talkpages and warning the harasser (an individual with past serious offenses related to talk page abuses) not to repeat his action is "provocation" against the harasser? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 14:08, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

I can only assume this violent assault on you was AI putting a civility template on your T/P after you making a specific personal attack on another colleague. The re-insertion of the template was incorrect and has been fully dealt with above In which I clearly warn AI against any such further behaviour. The order in which I deal with issues on my T/P is my own prerogative. I note that you have been sanctioned before for making personal attacks. Beware of the drama boards if your own closets have a few bones in them. Just a word to the wise. Irondome (talk) 14:52, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

There are at least more bones in his closet than mine, but he finds it interesting to mention mines. If I mention his, the discussion will be less valuable and waste of time. Mhhossein you are welcome, will do anything for you Alexis Ivanov (talk) 16:45, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

I would just suggest that the drama notice be withdrawn, and that everybody goes about their business, which is to build an encylopedia. Alexis, I would like to continue mentoring you for another month, just to be on the safe side. Irondome (talk) 17:03, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Of course. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 20:39, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Have you seen this yet?

User:Antandrus/observations on Misplaced Pages behavior. If you haven't, it's well worth the time it takes to read it. - BilCat (talk) 23:52, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Hiya BC :) Oh yes, I often peruse it. At the moment, 39, 54 and 56 seem particularly apt. However, it is full of timeless wisdom re: surviving in this nuthouse. Hope all is well with you b.t.w. brother BilCat! Si. Irondome (talk) 00:08, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I just re-read the list myself. I saw your comments above, and thought it worth sharing in case you hadn't seen it. I'm doing well, thanks. - BilCat (talk) 00:18, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

The less said about that, the better. I will not even dignify it by commenting on it further, either here or at the Music hall, I think you guys called it Vaudeville Theater ;) Irondome (talk) 00:26, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

To be clear, I was referring to your comment about "ill-lit corridors", not the immediately preceding section. :) - BilCat (talk) 00:50, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Copy that BC. There does seem to be a slight outbreak of odd behaviour at the moment however, 'pedia wide. I put it down to the new moon coinciding with the approaching northern hemisphere autumn equinox. Now I will have the fringe science brigade on my back :) Sometimes, yer just can't win ;) Si Irondome (talk) 00:57, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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Rare footage

of a Misplaced Pages:Civility dispute. . Irondome (talk) 18:06, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Evans

Have you read the marvelous Evans Report? One of my favorite historical works of all time. GAB 02:51, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi GAB, appreciate the link lots. I've read it before, but having an accessable link on my t/p is very handy. Ta :). It is one of the best shaftings of neo-nazi reasoning on record. I shall treat it as an early birthday present. Simon. Irondome (talk) 14:45, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Anytime. Equally interesting is the University of Canterbury's Report on the Joel Hayward controversy. GAB 00:02, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, just noticed this while leaving a message. Is that the report where the university ratted on him rather than stand up to blackmail?Keith-264 (talk) 14:31, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Battle of France redux

FYI Battle of France and terminological inexactitude on the milhist page might be of interest. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 14:17, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

seljuk empire leaders

hello irondome please complained Kouhi.enmity-chauvanism-vandalism-racism doing. Please see the changes that have been made. Please contact the authorized person.

i am Osman bey and iam not sockpuppet. Please apply justice. kouhi vandalizm https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Kouhi https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Kouhi

seljuk empire leaders Turk Leader and Turkish society you have to add the name to the Turkish interests.--88.243.161.109 (talk) 20:04, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

I will deal with it, I told you. Also try contacting an administrator to help out your registration as a Misplaced Pages editor, you can't be creating multiple accounts. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:29, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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Question about wikipolicies

Hello Simondome. As you probably wish you never knew, all the articles related to the I/P conflict have a 1RR. This really fucks up WP:BRD. An example would be something that just happened in Gaza Strip (Article, not the territory). Someone made an edit I saw as problematic and so I reverted. He reverted my edit (as opposed to what would be expected from you according to WP:BRD, demanding a discussion. From this point, I can't do anything for 24 hours, he can be as stubborn as he wants and I could not do anything becuase of the 1RR. So I want to ask the Arbitration Committee (I think this is what I am searching for) to see if there is a way to prevent a clash between WP:BRD and 1RR. Do you know where do I do it? (and if it is actually the ARBCOM I need to ask?)--Bolter21 (talk to me) 22:11, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi bolter, everything is doing my head in on here at the moment. But I know of a sane, calm voice who can answer the question better than my stressed floundering, and was the drafting arb behind the last ARBPIA. (I think was was ARBPIA3 :/). Seraphimblade, would you be kind enough to take a minute to assist our colleague Bolter21 here? It would be much appreciated. Simon. Irondome (talk) 22:27, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@Bolter21: Of course, Irondome pings me while I'm stuck on a high-severity issue at work. But while what he said is correct, what I say carries no particular weight or authority, apart from the opinion of someone who's been around the block a time or two. (And yes, it was ARBPIA3, and I sure hope there's never a 4.)

That being said, I don't think I see 1RR as the issue here. If that weren't present, each of you could revert two more times before running up against the "hard wall", but the end result would look the same, and we'd have more disruption and reverting going on to the article to get there. The primary thing you need to do is to, rather than relying on reverts, get the dispute to the talk page. It's not the end of the world which version stays in place during the discussion, unless the material is actively harmful like a BLP violation. Otherwise, it will get set according to consensus in the end, or maybe during the discussion you can come to a version different from both of the originals that everyone can at least live with.

The other thing people often forget is, any edit that undoes something or repeats an edit undertaken in the past is a revert. So if, for example, an editor removed three paragraphs of text, or changes a sentence back to something it said in the past, that undoes previously done work and is a revert. If someone then in turn reverts them, that editor would be violating 1RR to re-revert. On the other hand, if the editor adds a paragraph, and it's never been added before, that is not a revert, since their edit broke new ground. Changes to existing content is in more of a grey area, but generally speaking, if the changes don't include large removals and aren't extremely similar to something that's been done before, that's probably not a revert either.

But the idea of 1RR isn't that someone should be counting down until the next revert is due up. That can still be considered and sanctioned as edit warring, even if both editors obey the letter of 1RR. Rather, it's to more quickly reach the point where no one is allowed to revert any more, and it comes time to sit down and use the talk page. If you come to an impasse on talk, there are quite a few other dispute resolution mechanisms. One to consider, if only two editors are involved, is a third opinion. Far too few editors are familiar with that, and it's actually kind of a cool concept—if two people come to a point where they're going in circles, they can get a quick, informal opinion from a previously uninvolved third party that might help break the logjam. And that suggestion might not even be complete agreement with one party or the other, but rather a suggestion for compromise or an alternate way of doing things.

If the dispute's more complex, there's always a request for comments. That's a lot more formal than 3O, and will take longer to put together and run, but generally will get a lot more eyes on the matter. And a lot of those eyes won't be partisans on either side of the issue, so again, that might help in coming to a decent solution that everyone can at least live with, if not fall in love with. But don't hesitate to discuss first, and then use those processes if need be. Resorting to sanctions should be a last resort for people behaving disruptively. Other than that, content disputes should be hashed out through the normal processes, and if the discussion hits a wall, don't hesitate to use those mechanisms to get the eyes of some uninvolved editors on the issue. They do take time, and they can be damnably frustrating, but if you stay calm and are willing to work with it, they do generally find a way to work themselves out. Seraphimblade 04:57, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Grumbles

Someone reported me. *dramatic eyeroll* There really needs to be some sort of sanction against those who consistently bring bunk cases to the ARB.--Monochrome_Monitor 00:52, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

I have left a message on you T/P before I saw this. Notifications are taking an oddly long time to appear so I have only just picked this up 15 minutes after you posted. We need to talk via email, as I am concerned that a mass of perceptions, (gender, feelings that you are hated which is crap) are getting to you. I was going to contact you but I have had my own stresses in the past week and I have what appears to be a dental abcess which has erupted in the past couple of hours which is not helping my mood. Simon Irondome (talk) 01:12, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

You don't get it, do you MM? These people will continue to do so, with impunity, until something sticks. The people active at Arbitration Enforcement are just as bad as they are. Epson Salts (talk) 01:07, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

ES, I would be grateful if you did not add any further emotional burdens to a colleague who is under some stress. Lines like "these people" do not help, and you are making claims to an eternal WP:BATTLEGROUND atmosphere which is not helping my mentoree to lower their stress level. I am sure you understand my position here. Irondome (talk) 01:22, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

I though you withdrew from that mentorship - did you change your mind? Anyway, I will stop posting here if that is what you want , but I don't think you are helping MM defend herself against a bad-faith AE report brought against her by a vindictive POV-pusher, and if that state of affairs continues, she'll eventually be blocked. Epson Salts (talk) 02:16, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, basically. Although MM prefers to call the arrangement "guardian" which is amusing. We have a complex relationship ES which the community seems to tolerate, Thank G-d, as they follow its tortuous twists and turns. You are welcome to post here anytime, and the complaint appears not have gained traction with uninvolved admins. A good result for everyones reputation and sanity. I only intervene in extreme circumstances on the drama boards, and prefer to use "soft power" with all parties in any dispute, urging dialogue and other avenues. I dispise the drama boards unless they are used for cases of extreme provocation, such as explicit racism, nazi sentiment, extreme vexatious editing and obvious WP:IDHT and I am easily irritated by their use as place of first resort in most other cases. I only asked you to be more gentle in your language B.T.W. Simon. Irondome (talk) 02:21, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Not too volatile

I added an information about a vice-captain in the article Manchester City F.C. that it was lacking, their captain is injured at the moment, and user is trying to convince me it is irrelevant. Mind blowing to be honest, featured articles of football teams like Barcelona have vice-captains not only that they have 3rd captain and sometimes 4th captain, important information for the Misplaced Pages reader to better understand the leaders of the first team. I can't see any rule in Misplaced Pages that states "Vice-captains should not be recorded" your advice will be appreciated.

Here are some examples of football team articles Arsenal F.C., Manchester United F.C. and FC Barcelona, you be the judge. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 03:38, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Alexis Ivanov Alexis. I'm afraid i'm shit at football esp playing it, so I don't watch the articles. But I will W/L them. As always keep cool, because I don't want you being given a red card ha :) Simon. Irondome (talk) 22:07, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

HHAHAHA good one :) Alexis Ivanov (talk)

NPP & AfC

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This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2016)

Albrecht Dürer, famous German painter of the German Renaissance. Hello, Irondome. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: List of German painters Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Brain damage • Education in Bangladesh Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Thank you

for kindly fixing my typo :), I tend to type fast and it would seem my keyboard just can't even keep up with me anymore ... It's nothing to do with me pressing both keys at once or anything , Anyway thanks for fixing it for me, Have a great day and Happy editing. –Davey2010 23:12, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

No worries Davey :) I always feel a bit of a prat when I correct typos, and I only do it with colleagues I trust are not going to go weird on me and take me to arbcom or some place of execution. My typos are many and varied. Some a bit Freudian. Ho hum..Fix any you see lol. See you around bro! Simon Irondome (talk) 23:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Oh man I'm taking you to AN, ANI, Arbcom, AIV, The Edit Warring noticeboard because sod it why not lol, Na I don't think you're a prat - I think you're extremely helpful and you make me less of an idiot lol, Haha will do :), See you around mate, Happy editing, –Davey2010 00:29, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2016)

Alexis Ivanov

Hi, I saw you have been mentoring Alexis Ivanov. Now he has been abusive and disruptive at my talkpage and Mohamed Elneny (article and talkpage). Could you have a look and see if it is enough for a new ANI discussion? Qed237 (talk) 10:51, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

That was a long time ago. A.I. does not have air cover any more. Blocked. See what I mean? Irondome (talk) 20:39, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

I am having a nice cup of tea in a minute.

I am having a nice cup of tea in a minute. Irondome (talk) 20:32, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Have a productive year full of barnstars and reliable sources--Bolter21 (talk to me) 23:35, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

A good 5777 to you and your family and friends Bolter21. The Days of Awe are upon us, and I need to cast my crap away in the river tomorrow. Got to build a few human bridges I've let go into disrepair, and generally clean up my act. Maybe I can improve on my D- report in the book of life this year coming. Hope all goes well for you too brother :) Si. Irondome (talk) 23:48, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Without a doubt

Simon,
In response to your last comment at ANI ("TheStrayDog"). Feel absolutely free to ping/message me whenever needed. I'll try my best aiding you there where you need/want it. Bests and take care - LouisAragon (talk) 02:15, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

TheStrayDog This is our safe space to talk about your mentoring

I want to help you and keep you on here. First task for you after reading the essay, see the star to the right of VIEW HISTORY on the toolbar above. Click it. It will turn blue. This will be the place where we discuss important things, so I want it on your watchlist. I will ping you also when we need to talk. Follow my guidance my friend, with a good heart, and be open to change and all will be well. I'm an old man, and made mistakes, so I will teach you, as you are a young fellow. There is no shame in that. Now I will tell you what I want you to do here.

• First step. Please remove the association link on your user page and the symbol. Please do that for me in the next 24 hours, as I need to know you will follow my guidance. You must do it, please, so I have confidence in your wish to change. Other instructions will follow, and we will together work out the problems which annoy the community. Your friend Simon. Irondome (talk) 02:18, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I did. then? The Stray Dog Talk Page 02:23, 6 October 2016 (UTC)