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2016 Jerusalem shooting attack

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WP:NOTNEWS. There's been an unfortunate habit of creating an article for every news event involving violence, at least every event involving violence against Israelis, in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This should be merged to List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2016 unless some sustained coverage, which requires time, can be shown Nableezy 23:29, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Nableezy 23:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Nableezy 23:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

• Keep per WP:NOTNEWS, WP:NOTMEMORIAL, and WP:RECENTISM. Yes, I know that NOTNEWS and NOTMEMORIAL indicate the "article" should be deleted, but I also know that the "article" will almost certainly be kept regardless of policy. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 23:49, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

What sort of reason is that? Zero 00:14, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

The reason(ing) is this: Since the administrator who closes this discussion is almost certain to ignore all rules (and not in a WP:IAR sort of way, because that policy requires as a condition the improvement of Misplaced Pages) and close it as keep based on a nose-count, it doesn't matter that I cite policy that says this alleged article is a Wiki-abomination. I might as well vote with the majority. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 02:23, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

According to this logic we should delete half of the articles about events in Misplaced Pages.Many articles rely solely on contemporary news articles of those events.I don't mind the mind the cleanup but it should be uniform. Till that this article should stay--Shrike (talk) 07:48, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Umm no. If you dont get the logic feel free to ask, but try not to misrepresent it. K thnx. nableezy - 14:50, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

This was meant for Malik.I fixed the indent--Shrike (talk) 14:58, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

• Redirect per WP:NOTNEWS. No evidence that this event is of an enduring encyclopedic nature at this point. Redirect to List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2016 per nom. Safehaven86 (talk) 05:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
• Keep Per WP:GNG many WP:RS sources discuss this event not only as news but more thorough analysis for example ,--Shrike (talk) 07:48, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. North America 08:07, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. North America 08:07, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

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• Keep Per WP:GNG, plenty of sources.BabbaQ (talk) 19:49, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
• Keep as per WP:HEYMANN, I have expanded the article with sources and events that have taken place since the shooting. (I have not yet added the excellent sources brought by User:Shrike above). More remains to be added on details of the attack; political context, but article clearly passes WP:GNG. Note also that it is routine practice to add terror attacks when they occur.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:46, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

It is your routine. And please note, WP:NOT is a Misplaced Pages policy. WP:GNG is a guideline. A violation of WP:NOT cannot be addressed by an assertion that it satisfies a guideline. nableezy - 03:18, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

• Keep Now has plenty of reliable sources and coverage XyzSpaniel Talk Page 07:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Delete obviously. Apart from the ongoing defiance of policy, E. M. Gregory's attempt to turn Misplaced Pages into an ethnic exclusive version of Yad Vashem fails here, because all of the details in the new article are already comprehensively covered in the specialist article dedicated to this violence List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2016 (See October 9), which is maintained by myself and User:Bolter21, so both POVs are respected and both editors take pains to ensure the other side's story is duly covered. Thus this is sheer POV-pushing reduplication. Please note that in the latter article, all incidents of violence by both sides are set out in chronological context, not according to an ethnocentric bias according to which violence undertaken by Israel is insignificant on wikipedia whereas Palestinian violence must be given intensive coverage. Nishidani (talk) 07:51, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

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