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| <nowiki><ref name=MirrorPetl>"Pilsudski's quote: "Independent Poland first of all, and then we will see to its size". Quoted from:<br>{{ru icon}}/{{uk icon}}"A Belated Idealist," '']'' (Mirror Weekly), May 22-28, 2004. Available online and .</ref></nowiki> | <nowiki><ref name=MirrorPetl>"Pilsudski's quote: "Independent Poland first of all, and then we will see to its size". Quoted from:<br>{{ru icon}}/{{uk icon}}"A Belated Idealist," '']'' (Mirror Weekly), May 22-28, 2004. Available online and .</ref></nowiki> | ||
| == Disgusting Polish Chauvinist POV== | |||
| All this talk about "Polish Partitions" is a myth concocted by Polish chauvinists in a desperate attempt to portray the oppressive Polish landlords as "helpless victims". During the so-called Polish Partitions, Russia '''took back''' land from Poland-Lithuania which had previously been stolen from Kievan Rus which was the first Russian state that existed from 880-1240. In 1349-52, the Polish landlords stole Halicz and Volyn which had Ukrainian population. Meanwhile, the Lithuanians stole Polotsk, Turov-Pinsk, Chernaia Rus, and Vokovysk. In mid 1300s, Minsk, eastern Volyn, Podolia, and Kiev were stolen by Lithuania. Vytatus annexed lands Deniepr and Dnester as far as the Black Sea as well as Smolensk, Viazma and the area around the upper course of Oka River in the east. Therefore, "Polish partitions" as far as Russia is concerned resulted in White Russian and Little Russian (Ukrainian) territory being liberated from the Polish thieves. ] | |||
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Piłsudski's quote
"Independent Poland first of all, and then we will see to its size". No Google hits other then Misplaced Pages. No Google Print nor Scholar hits. While Zerkalo Nedeli doesn't seem like a very POVed publication, it is classified as a newspaper, not an academic publication, and the current reference does not quote the author. We should try to find a primary source for that - the Zerkalo Nedeli article must surely be based on *something*. English academic source would be preferable, non-English but academic would also be good.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I did some copyedit of the article and the quote is really pointless. I have never heard that Piłsudski's was assigned a task of recreating PLC, and the quote actually contradicts the sentence, showing that Piłsudski didn't care about the size or borders. I decided to move it here for dicussion. I also removed this quote from PSW article, where it served no purpose. I have no objections to adding this quote to Wikiquote, if anybody thinks it is valuable enough.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Piłsudski's first task was to expand the control of the newly created state to as much of the territories formerly controlled by Poland as feasable.
<ref name=MirrorPetl>"Pilsudski's quote: "Independent Poland first of all, and then we will see to its size". Quoted from:<br>{{ru icon}}/{{uk icon}}"A Belated Idealist," '']'' (Mirror Weekly), May 22-28, 2004. Available online and .</ref>
Disgusting Polish Chauvinist POV
All this talk about "Polish Partitions" is a myth concocted by Polish chauvinists in a desperate attempt to portray the oppressive Polish landlords as "helpless victims". During the so-called Polish Partitions, Russia took back land from Poland-Lithuania which had previously been stolen from Kievan Rus which was the first Russian state that existed from 880-1240. In 1349-52, the Polish landlords stole Halicz and Volyn which had Ukrainian population. Meanwhile, the Lithuanians stole Polotsk, Turov-Pinsk, Chernaia Rus, and Vokovysk. In mid 1300s, Minsk, eastern Volyn, Podolia, and Kiev were stolen by Lithuania. Vytatus annexed lands Deniepr and Dnester as far as the Black Sea as well as Smolensk, Viazma and the area around the upper course of Oka River in the east. Therefore, "Polish partitions" as far as Russia is concerned resulted in White Russian and Little Russian (Ukrainian) territory being liberated from the Polish thieves. Jacob Peters