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Umm... Help

I have not logged on nor edited articles in a while however, I just recieved a message saying that my Ip (70.50.199.91 (talk · contribs)) has been vandilising articles and will be banned if i don't stop. Umm... what the hell, I have not vandilized any articles nor know of anyone else in my household who even goes on wikipedia. It could be because we have a wireless interet conection and someone is stealing it or something and i have no idea what else to do or where else to complain. So could you help me out and give me some sugestions, seriously, this is pissing me off. --Gilimonster 18:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

where did you recieve this message? --Dak 19:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

A fe minutes before posting this. --Gilimonster 19:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

yes, but where? i can't see a vandalism warning on your userpage, or your ip's userpage? --Dak 12:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

If it's your wireless, you should secure it. Someone could do a lot worse than vandalize WP from you IP, and if they're vandalising, they might not be the sorts of people you want sharing your bandwidth anyway. ----SB_Johnny||_books 20:01, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

CVUtan

Just to show that I want everyone to suffer: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Geni (talk • contribs) .

/me applauds! — xaosflux 12:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Not bad. :) Me likey. I'd prefer her with a mop though since people will call us military because she is holding riot gear... --Cat out 14:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

so will that be a gateling mop or a howitzer mop?Geni 14:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Gently cleaning/holding (just like how a maid would do). A new wiki-tan image might be drawn for it. :) --Cat out 14:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I can see why a mop would be appropriate, but I think she'd look very cute with a feather duster, and maybe a little frilly maid's cap. Her costume already looks a bit like a french maid outfit. -- Vary | Talk 16:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm would think that would be more sutiple of the various syntax repair people. Unless you are tlaking about a RPFD with a tandem warhead.Geni 18:46, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I would advise a mop as the mop represents admins, something we aren't. American Patriot 1776 19:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

AAAHHHHHHH *dumps alcohol in eyes* --Chris (talk) 20:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Is this some sort of bad joke? Did I just die and go to hell? What the hell is that... that... thing over there -> ?--digital_me 21:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

It an attempt to blackmail the foundation.Geni 21:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I certainly think that it will accomplish that ;) --digital_me 21:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Geni, that is brilliant. Best laugh I've had all week. +sj + 21:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

OMG that is OUTSTANDING I feel out of my chair I was laughing so hard. Æon _EA! 03:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

All chuckles aside, this little "joke" is evidence - obviously intended to belittle and insult a group of Users within the Misplaced Pages organization, those devoted to actively cleaning up vandalism. At this point we need a mature independent Administrator, who is not a stakeholder in the argument whether the CVU should or should not be allowed to exist, to look at intervening on the behalf of some Users, who are clearly under attack as a group for whatever reason. --T-dot 14:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Being POV (PRO-CVU) I think this logo is great, and am in NO way insulted by it, not think it should be seen in any way as a personal attack by . — xaosflux 15:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

the logo is not an attack on the CVU. While I would not describe myself as being pro CVU (I hate being pro things people expect you to get involved and stuff) I'm yet to see what I think logicaly sound argument against their existance. The image is mostly a joke (I have a very strange sense of humor) but not one aimed at the CVU (if anything it contains a slight dig at the foundations policy on the use of their logos).Geni 16:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Attack on the CVU or not, you guys plagiarized the WikiProject Anime and manga's logo and I thought you guys didn't vandalise other people's work, considering yourselves part of an anti-vandal organization. What i'm trying to say is...you guys vandalized the logo of WikiProject Anime and manga! I thought you guys were supposed to PREVENT vandalism, not PROMOTE it! Is the CVU trying to have a good laugh before it dissolves by its own MfD? 74.225.117.237 18:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

credit is given to the two works it is derived from. That covers both plagiarism and copyright. One of the side effects of the GFDL is that people can create derivative works.Geni 18:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Exactly, and this is one of the potential project mascots for all of wikipediak meta:Wikipedia_mascot#Wikipe-tan. Vandalism would be if the production copy was chaged, forking is NOT vandalism. — xaosflux 18:39, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

even if it weren't licenced under GFDL, the fact remains that plagarism/copyvio != vandalism. --DakAD 19:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Nice job, CVU. I, at least, find the juxtaposition of girl+riot gear hilarious. --tjstrf 18:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Abso-freaking-lutely hilarious. EVula 18:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

To above I didn't think of it as a Personal Attack. I think the image is cute and funny! Æon _EA! 00:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

With the help of ja:利用者:Kasuga, I created a new logo. Its released with a free license and does not use any wikipedia/wikimedia logos. Enjoy. --Cat out 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Current Deletion Discussions

1. THE COUNTER-VANDALISM UNIT IS NOW BEING CONSIDERED FOR DELETION AT Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit (third nomination). Please feel free to vote there. --Cat out 16:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
2. Category:Counter-Vandalism_Unit_members is up for renaming at Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_September_1#Counter-Vandalism_Unit_members, please discuss it there. — xaosflux 03:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Huh. Checkuser shows that Dr Chatterjee = Bobby Boulders = WoW. Looks like that funny stuff in my eyes was just wool after all! Well, back to vandal thumping... --SB_Johnny | 20:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

No suprise there... Really... --Cat out 23:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

New logo avalible under a free license

New logo, will certainly slience the copyright complaits. The previous logo will undergo a board review. --Cat out 21:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The "Wikimedia Foundation" text still needs to be removed. —Centrx→talk • 21:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Why? In anycase asuming we have to do that, can someone mirror the top text to the bottom? My photoshop doesnt go that far... --Cat out 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if it is a legal necessity, but this page/project/group is not a affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation; having "Wikimedia" or "Misplaced Pages" might be fine, but "Wikimedia Foundation" is the non-profit organization in its official capacity. —Centrx→talk • 22:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

We are affiliated in a volunteer sense in no war are we official. I think the logo should have some connection to the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects and since I cant use the logos, this is the only thing that comes to my mind. "Misplaced Pages", "Wikimedia", and "Wikimedia Foundation" are equaly problematic on the image (or not problematic at all).

I'll wait for what the board/trademark commitee has to say. If they complain I'll react accordingly... If they dont, there really isnt a problem anyways.

--Cat out 22:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind, someone was eager to censor it already. --Cat out 22:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it is the foundation you will have to worry about but all the people complaining you are trying to appear official. You will find a foundation free copy of the logo in the history on commons. oh And I can't find a way to mirror the top text on the bottem without creating it from scratch. What is the font?Geni 22:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't circular logos where the text goes around the entire image usually go upside down on the lower half? In that case, all you'd need to do would be copy-paste and rotate the upper text to the bottom. (Example: I thought I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...) --tjstrf 22:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I tried that it sucked.Geni 23:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I didnt add the text as my photoshop skills suck. User:Silsor chose that font and I doubt he'll remembers it. --Cat out 23:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Win, very win. I liked the old Wikipe-tan one to start with, and since this doesn't have that supposedly negative police force connotation, the new one is less controversial. Good job. --tjstrf 21:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't she have a paint roller instead :)? --SB_Johnny||_books 23:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Why paint roller? --tjstrf 23:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Well cleaning vandalism up sound more approporate, and paint roler wouldnt fit the maid outfit. --Cat out 23:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I like! Æon _EA! 23:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The array of userboxes has been updated, and is on display at Misplaced Pages:Counter-Vandalism Unit. — xaosflux 02:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

That's humiliating. Oh well, it's worth it if it keeps the CVU alive. --Chodorkovskiy 05:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

What's humiliating? That you now have the best logo ever? --tjstrf 05:34, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh I have no probelm with Wiki-Tan. It's the house-wife-with-a-mop that gets to me. We are not sysops. Also, did you see the expression? She looks hardly successful, even though the CVU is meeting its objectives quite nicely. --Chodorkovskiy 06:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not a housewife, it's a maid. You may have a point with the sysop thing. Her expression is a happy/determined one, not sad or anything. You must not have zoomed in on the image. --tjstrf 06:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I still don't like it. Maybe if her legs weren't like that... and she was smiling... Yeah, like the Russian oar girl. But still, the mop... What was wrong with riot gear anyway? --Chodorkovskiy 08:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

You mean asside from the image not scaleing down to well? andyway you can use Template:User CVU3-en if you want.Geni 15:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I am. I even substituted it so my user page doesn't change every time PC is in. I just offered my opinion about the official CVU logo.--Chodorkovskiy 15:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

could use both but it isn't really my place to make any judgments.Geni 16:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

What's with the new logos with anime? Can't we have more designs like the blue logo. The wierd anime girl logo is wierd/  Demonblade  11:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I've remade the blue logo, smoothing out some of the rough spots and making the seal round again (it was cut off at the edges). I also added a new version with "CVU" in the center, which should be beneficial to the userboxes, etc. I may come out with a new design soon. As you may know, the logos are based on CTU. --TinMan 12:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

The anime logo is necesary because people are complaining that we are some sort of millitary organization strictly based on the logo. Since no millitary has an anime charater as their logo, that slicences that. Also, she is cute. :P --Cat out 20:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. All she needs now is some sort of a battlemech with the letters VP engraved on it...--Chodorkovskiy 20:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

remove deletion at the top?

It's five days should the deletion tag be removed?---Scott3 _{Talk Contributions Count: 950+} 00:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

MFD runs for 8 days, but it has now been closed. — xaosflux 01:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

???

Why did the CVU logo go through so many changes? Toronto fille 01:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

In a nutshell, there were copyright issues with the derrvited images, out of a nutsehll:see above. — xaosflux 06:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Name to suit our logo?

Why not change our name to suit the logo? Sailor Moon is under trademark no doubt, unless someone wants to claim fair-use. What about "Anime Maids of Misplaced Pages" or "Wikipe-tan Janitors Association"? I'm sorry... The logo just makes me want to drop on the floor laughing every time I see it. But seriously is the logo staying? And what about choosing a new name?--Konstable 03:46, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

"Maids of Misplaced Pages" and "Janitors association" make me want to drop on the floor and die. CVU is perfectly good as it is.--Chodorkovskiy 06:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, about the matching uniforms: you can always get the ones as pictured on this page... Titoxd 06:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Now that's a logo I can live with. --Chodorkovskiy 06:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we can use that one to replace the {{test4}} hand hrm.--Konstable 06:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Agree with Chodorkovskiy above, leave it be, especially now that we just got done with rounds and rounds of deletion disucssions. — xaosflux 06:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I like "CVU" to be honest. --TinMan 18:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

"Anime Maids of Misplaced Pages" is too long. How about "Animaids of Misplaced Pages"? Factitious 20:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Lets leave the name alone. but I do like the french maid. Just picture it a vandal sitting there vandaising a way and the message pops up with a french maid saying this is your last warning, I would die laughing if that happened to me. Æon _EA! 05:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

While I like the idea, the image in question is copyrighted. --Chodorkovskiy 08:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

MfD messageboxes

I'd like to see a message box at the top of this page that says something like "All prior nominations of this page for deletion have been made in bad faith by known vandals. Nominators of this page for deletion should provide evidence substantiating their reasons for nomination". Just a hurdle, the wording can change -- Clappingsimon talk 09:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Those boxes are being transcluded from Misplaced Pages talk:Counter-Vandalism Unit/oldmfds, although they may have been started that way, the third nomination was full of content/context based discussion as well (non-consensus, closer to keep then delete it felt like though). — xaosflux 21:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Why not just mention that they (the first two) were "bad-faith nominations"? --tjstrf 17:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Watching the FAs

How about putting the following suggestion into the "detection" part of the project page: "temporarily put the daily featured article on your watchlist, as it is bound to become a target for vandals". Or something of the sort, you get my point. --Chodorkovskiy 15:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

A good idea. I generally try to do it if I have the time, and I've caught a lot of vandalism like that (even if I did have to sully my contribution list with a Pokemon character...). EVula 16:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Gay, Russia

Please watch out for vandalism at Gay, Russia due to its obious atractiveness. Our glorious RCP'ers missed this today. - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

It lasted a full 20 minutes. How fucking horrible. I'm going home. --Chodorkovskiy 18:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Oy vey... Some articles seem made for vandalism... added to watchlist. EVula 18:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I know it lasted 20 minutes, but I had a notion that someone had an eye on RCP at all times, more or less, and an IP edit to Gay, Russia must be on of the most suspicious recent changes ever!! :) - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I use Lupin's tool, which singles out that kind of vandalism really well. (Of course, I wasn't using it this morning...) --Ginkgo100 20:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Will Misplaced Pages:Voting is evil become a guideline?

The conversion of Misplaced Pages:Voting is evil from an essay to a guideline is presently being discussed here. Note that a disregard for what most editors want, the principle underlying Misplaced Pages:Voting is evil, was used to justify the out-of-process speedy deletion of the Counter-Vandalism Unit against the wishes of most established editors commenting on the issue. John254 21:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)