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Amendment request: Genetically modified organisms

Initiated by DrChrissy at 23:57, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Case or decision affected

Genetically modified organisms arbitration case (t) (ev / t) (w / t) (pd / t)

Clauses to which an amendment is requested

1. DrChrissy topic banned (January 2016)

List of any users involved or directly affected, and confirmation that all are aware of the request

• DrChrissy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (initiator)

Information about amendment request

• DrChrissy topic banned (January 2016)

• Rescind the topic ban

Statement by DrChrissy

Over 12 months ago, I was topic banned from editing "...all pages relating to genetically modified organisms, commercially produced agricultural chemicals, and the companies that produce them, broadly interpreted". I am seeking this sanction be lifted.

Since the imposition of the topic ban, I have remained a highly productive editor here on Misplaced Pages - please see my user page where I have listed articles I have created and significantly edited. It is clear I have not simply "waited out" this sanction.

To the best of my memory, I have not violated this topic ban, nor have I been accused of skirting around the ban or testing it. The protection of these articles has been successful.

The reasons I wish to have this sanction lifted are two-fold:

• First, I wish to be able to directly edit GM animal articles. I have a vast experience of animal behaviour based on my real life university position. Many articles on GM animals could benefit from edits, some in my areas of expertise.
• Second, I often edit animal-related articles which contain interwoven GM related content. I would like to have lifted the pressure of having to be extremely careful what I write, where I write and looking over my shoulder.

In summary, topic bans are imposed to protect articles - I believe this has been achieved. DrChrissy 23:57, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Statement By Beyond My Ken

DrChrissy's statement neglects to mention some facts:

• 1. As a result of the Genetically modified organisms arbitratuion case, which closed on 12 December 2015, DrChrissy received this topic ban:

  DrChrissy is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to genetically modified plants and agricultural chemicals, broadly interpreted; appeals of this ban may be requested no earlier than twelve months since the date the case closed.

  DrChrissy's topic ban was less stringent that that received by other parties to the case. This was deliberate on the Committee's part, to allow him to edit about gentically modified animals. However, less than a month later, because of DrChrissy's continued problematic editing and testing of the boundaries of his topic ban, the ban was changed by motion to read:

  DrChrissy's topic ban which currently states that "DrChrissy is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to genetically modified plants and agricultural chemicals, broadly interpreted; appeals of this ban may be requested no earlier than twelve months since the date the case closed" is replaced with "DrChrissy is indefinitely topic-banned from all pages relating to genetically modified organisms, commercially produced agricultural chemicals, and the companies that produce them, broadly interpreted; appeals of this ban may be requested no earlier than twelve months since the date the case closed."

• 2. Prior to the GMO case, DrChrissy received editing sanctions from the community. On 16 May, he was

  indefinitely topic banned from editing any biomedical articles.

  This, too, had to be clarified. It was modified on 20 May to read

  User:DrChrissy is topic banned from alternative medicine, broadly construed. To be clear, this includes alternative medicine for humans and animals, so Veterinary acupuncture does fall under the scope of this ban. Animal biology, behavior, health, and normal veterinary medicine does not fall under the scope of this ban so long as it does not intersect with alternative medicine topics such as acupuncture, homeopathy, TCM, energy medicine, faith healing, etc. DrChrissy is also topic banned from human medical articles and WP:MEDRS related discussions (in accordance with the previous close, and to reduce the possibility of conflict with the same group of users). This modifies the close of Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive885#Topic ban for DrChrissy which imposed a topic ban from "biomedical articles". This ban may be appealed no sooner than 6 months from now, and will be logged at WP:RESTRICT.

  and had to be modified again on 3 September 2015 "to clarify 'broadly construed' for human medicine and MEDRS", to read

  User:DrChrissy is topic banned from alternative medicine, broadly construed. To be clear, this includes alternative medicine for humans and animals, so Veterinary acupuncture does fall under the scope of this ban. Animal biology, behavior, health, and normal veterinary medicine does not fall under the scope of this ban so long as it does not intersect with alternative medicine. DrChrissy is also topic banned from human health and medicine, and WP:MEDRS related discussions, broadly construed.

• 3.The clear conclusion to be drawn from this is that DrChrissy cannot be trusted to edit responsibly in this topic area. Even when he received very specific topic bans, his editing required that the bans be modified a number of times to prevent his editing around their edges. It seems obvious that if his ArbCom ban is lifted, he will return to precisely the same kind of editing that got him banned in the first place. This is because DrChrissy is the epitome of a civil point of view pusher. He has a specific agenda, and his edits are designed to promote that agenda and skew our articles.

• 4.The evidence DrCrissy provides for the sanction to be lifted is "To the best of my memory, I have not violated this topic ban". This is not a reason that a ban should be lifted, it is the minimum requirement of an editor under a topic ban. The articles have been "protected" because DrChrissy is forbidden to edit them. To say that a reasonable response to that is to lift the topic ban is simply illogical and flies in the face of DrCrissy's editing history.

• 5.I urge the Committee to reject this appeal to lift DrChrissy's topic ban. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:12, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Statement by Kingofaces43

It's pretty clear DrChrissy has continued the same behavior that got them topic banned in GMOs in other topics, so the topic ban is still needed. They also neglect to mention with their not skirting their sanctions comment that they actually did skirt their topic ban, which resulted in it being broadened. They also violated the concurrent interaction ban handed to them from the same ArbCom case. Unfortunately, there is a recurrent trend of DrChrissy engaging in battleground behavior, pursuing that in vexatious requests on admin boards, and moving on to other topics once they get topic banned. After all that, they file an appeal immediately after they are able to only to have that appeal rejected because the community sees even more battleground behavior that went on in other topics after the ban. Here's a snapshot of what's been going on in the last year:

Leading up to GMO ArbCom

• Before ArbCom, topic banned from alt-med topics as part of a boomerang for their battleground behavior directed at other editors.
• Alt-med ban appeal fails due to continued battleground behavior. (third paragraph of close gives a good summary of the recurring issues with DrChrissy that need to be addressed to successfully appeal a topic ban)
• Topic ban and interaction ban due to behavior in GMO topics.

Since ArbCom (within the last year)

• Warned for violating topic ban.
• Topic ban expanded by Arbs after original ArbCom ban due to behavior they found to be disruptive.
• Blocked for violating I-ban by delving into editor interactions in GMO topics and vexatious use of AE noticeboard
• Tries to comment on AE case directly relating to a GMO topic.
• Alt-med topic ban extended due to continued battleground behavior.
• Warned for more battleground behavior where a proposal gained some traction to ban DrChrissy from admin boards due to more vexatious filings.

That's just after a quick search of summary level discussions, bans, etc. without getting into DrChrissy's actual comments (I'd run out of room relitigating everything within the last year). It's obvious they are not keeping their nose clean or acting on why they got banned in the first place. We're finally getting peace in the GMO topics (and nearly a whole month without a related AE case). The topic ban is still preventing further disruption as evidenced by DrChrissy's continued behavior documented in their other topic ban appeal denials. That's especially since it's clear they've been hanging around the periphery of GMO-related meta issues on editors' general behavior that have just been sanctioned in the topic.

I'd urge Arbs to continue preventing this disruption in the GMO topic as it's already been made clear DrChrissy cannot handle nuanced topic bans as they are requesting. That's especially with DrChrissy's pre-case actions being the straw that broke the camel's back (for eventual better or worse) that led to the opening of the original GMO case. If they have since not been able to appeal their other (and earlier) topic ban due to the same battleground behavior, that's also a good indication the more recent GMO ban should remain. Kingofaces43 (talk) 04:21, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Statement by {other-editor}

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• Cleaned. For the future, please use this link to file requests for amendment. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:30, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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