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:::Hey Bhadani if you look at Tipu sultan's talk page, you might see the diff I provided. His comment was racist and ] and united both Marathi and Kannada (I hope this is the right word) users (the ones that fight over ], ], etc) in their hatred of this kind of rant that sound more ] than ]. I would say the block on vgowda, while "warranted" (I think it was totally unfair, but I'm willing to go with consensus), was probably harsh, judging by the circumstances. Lostintherush seemed to echo my sentiments.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 22:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey Bhadani if you look at Tipu sultan's talk page, you might see the diff I provided. His comment was racist and ] and united both Marathi and Kannada (I hope this is the right word) users (the ones that fight over ], ], etc) in their hatred of this kind of rant that sound more ] than ]. I would say the block on vgowda, while "warranted" (I think it was totally unfair, but I'm willing to go with consensus), was probably harsh, judging by the circumstances. Lostintherush seemed to echo my sentiments.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 22:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Good morning Bakasuprman. I appreciate your feelings. I know of most of the things you are referring to ... however, in my opinion, each one is capable of improving. Sometimes, persons say something, which they do not mean: though saying such things are really bad. While I do firmly believe in civility in real as well as in digital life, I do also believe that the wikipedia community must allow each one a reasonable chance to reform and display a more considerate and correct view of the affairs here. I am aware of your concerns in this particular matter. At the same time, I am also aware of the desire on the part of one of us (Tipu Hero) to be more considerate in future. Even then, if you wish not to give any chance to the person despite he having apologized over his behaviour, I do think that we may be digressing from our main mission. I also understand that you and all others are entitled to your individual opinions. Regards. --] 23:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I request the admin to take cognizance of this. Also if we compare this and this, I dont see how Tipu Hero doesnt deserve to be blocked too. I hope VGowda wasnt blocked just because Tipu happened to complain first. Sarvagnya17:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
If you want to go on a "unreferenced" spree, feel free to include pages of non-Pakistanis, so I have to at least go to your page before discovering you're an Indian. ;) Afinebalance05:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I am sure that you shall help in providing references to those pages. I will also try. I think that you talked only once in six months, and that too with me. Your interest in wikipedia is really remarkable. I would suggest you to contribute more, depending on your time and inclination. Thanks. --Bhadani15:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Referenced one more page: Ahmed Tasnim. And, please note that your oblique reference imputing "motives" was in a bad taste. We are here as wikipedians, which constitute a virtual community transgressing nationalities and national borders. Referencing makes the contents reliable, and it has nothing to deal with your premise and presumption. I think that you understand the meaning. --Bhadani17:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Explain further? Why did you add a explanatory HTML comment about the interlanguage links? Have you seen people be confused as to what those are? It seems like a waste of space... JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
In case, it would confuse, I shall stop. I thought it would induce editors interested in translations to translate the page in other languages. I had seen some bots adding similar links sometimes, and thought to work like a bot. (smiles). --Bhadani15:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
bottom line
dear Bhadani, I appreciate your comments re the Giano/KM matter, and looking at the bigger picture I certainly recognize you as an honorable Wikipedian. I admit that your complaint to my talkpage has played on an already very taut string, so that my reaction towards you was much more rude and annoyed than your comment alone would have justified, and for this I apologize, hoping that we will not have to ignore each other completely in unrelated Misplaced Pages matters because of this unhappy incident. best regards, you are of course free to ignore this message, dab(ᛏ)08:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Apologies
Hi, my apologies for uncivil behaviour. I was angry because Tipu was a great secular king and these people paint him as a communalist. It is bad. They target minorities. When I am a nationalist Indian, why is my loyalty suspect ? I don't like this. I feel like crying. But I won't use that language again. Tipu Hero17:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I myself admire Tipu Sultan. I have studied (many books on him) very well. He was one of the greatest Indians. Imprisonment of his sons at the Vellore fort had ignited a mutiny fifty years before Indian rebellion of 1857 of 1857-58, and it is named as the Vellore Mutiny. Frankly speaking, I do not believe in segmentation of human race into religions and creeds. Yes, we all should be proud to be Indians irrespective of regional and religious affiliations, and all others should be proud of their nationalities (including Pakistanis); but here we are wikipedians, and we have joined hands to write an encyclopedia. I do appreciate your repentence at your bad words, and trust that you shall be more careful in future. --Bhadani17:55, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey Bhadani if you look at Tipu sultan's talk page, you might see the diff I provided. His comment was racist and anti-Hindu and united both Marathi and Kannada (I hope this is the right word) users (the ones that fight over Belgaum, Vande Mataram, etc) in their hatred of this kind of rant that sound more Lashkar-e-Taiba than A.P.J. Abdul Kalam. I would say the block on vgowda, while "warranted" (I think it was totally unfair, but I'm willing to go with consensus), was probably harsh, judging by the circumstances. Lostintherush seemed to echo my sentiments.BakamanBakatalk22:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Good morning Bakasuprman. I appreciate your feelings. I know of most of the things you are referring to ... however, in my opinion, each one is capable of improving. Sometimes, persons say something, which they do not mean: though saying such things are really bad. While I do firmly believe in civility in real as well as in digital life, I do also believe that the wikipedia community must allow each one a reasonable chance to reform and display a more considerate and correct view of the affairs here. I am aware of your concerns in this particular matter. At the same time, I am also aware of the desire on the part of one of us (Tipu Hero) to be more considerate in future. Even then, if you wish not to give any chance to the person despite he having apologized over his behaviour, I do think that we may be digressing from our main mission. I also understand that you and all others are entitled to your individual opinions. Regards. --Bhadani23:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
