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The lion constellation image

I emailed a Dr. of the Astronomy Department at Berkeley University California to review the Lion constellation image that I linked to. And he emailed me regarding the image: " lion looks much more interesting than the versions of Leo that are usually drawn." All stars below the visual magnitude of 6 have been deleted. This is a Dr. of Astronomy who confirmed that the image is interesting. He calls it "more interesting then the versions of Leo that are usually drawn". So as a Dr. of Astronomy he must know the H.A. Rey Lion which is as much as the image I linked to a possible connection of the stars in the Leo Constellation. A doctor of Astronomy calls my connection of the stars in Leo "more interesting then the other visualisations". And H.A. Rey with a less interesting connection of the stars in Leo is on Misplaced Pages. So why not the visualisation I link to. A Dr. of Astronomy at Berkely University Astronomy Department. What else can one bring to have you accept that it is a work of scientific worth. I think one can really trust the knowledge and overview over astromical topics of the Dr.'s of Berkeley University Astronomy Department. Please don't be so stubborn and withhold this knowledge from Misplaced Pages and Humanity. Please see that if a Dr. of Astronomy from a University with renown calls it the most interesting visualisatiion of the subject that he has seen then it is ok to give it out to the public. Since you protected the page please put my link back in. I want people to be able to see this. and I don't want you to withhold it for what I think are dubious reasons (Maybe that the topic of the website is on is spirituality. Spirituality has always been a science in my eyes. As finding ways of how to come to higher insights is one of the eldest theorie building in human culture). This is all I can put in to this discussion. A Dr. from Berkely University Astronomy Department calls it the most interesting visualization of the Lion Constellation he has ever seen. I think this is by far enough to appear on Misplaced Pages as long as visualisations are presented on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:CA:4BCD:1854:B852:1E36:8D07:B51E (talk) 16:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomenclature of fungi

Hey there. I recently stumbled across an issue of Nova Hedwigia Beheift titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? Circeus 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

That would be friggin' trés bién. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is Agaricus which was called Psalliota in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are Amanita muscaria, which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, Gyromitra esculenta as a future FA, Agaricus bisporus as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels – Amanita virosa, Amanita bisporiga and Amanita verna. Boletus edulis would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for Amanita). I'll look up Agaricus, Amanita (since A. muscaria's the current type) and Psalliota. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. Circeus 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool, keen to see what pops up. cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (Donk, M.A. (1962). "The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae". Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia. 5: 1–320. ISSN 0078-2238.) because I forgot about it until the last minute. Psalliota looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with Agaricus, and might be older. Circeus 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things Agaricus so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th–19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is a right mess. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN???

LOTS of "per" in citation here. See

On Agaricus

Etym.: Possibly "from Agarica of Sarmatica, a district of Russia" (!). Note also Greek ἀγαρικόν "a sort of tree fungus" (There's been an Agaricon Adans. genus, treated by Donk in Persoonia 1:180)

Donk says Linnaeus' name is devalidated (so that the proper author citation apparently is "L. per Fr., 1821") because Agaricus was not linked to Tournefort's name (Linnaeus places both Agaricus Dill. and Amanita Dill. in synonymy), but truely a replacement for Amanita Dill., which would require that A. quercinus, not A. campestris be the type. This question compounded by the fact that Fries himself used Agaricus roughly in Linnaeus' sense (which leads to issues with Amanita), and that A. campestris was eventually excluded from Agaricus by Karsten and was apparently in Lepiota at the time Donk wrote this, commenting that a type conservation might become necessary.

All proposals to conserve Agaricus against Psalliota or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous.

References

1. Letter is script and looks like a Russian и.

On Lepiota

Etym. Probably greek λεπις, "scale"

Basionym is Agaricus sect. Lepiota Pers. 1797, devalidated by later starting date, so the citation is (Pers.) per S.F.Gray. It was only described, without species, and covered an earlier mentioned, but unnamed group of ringed, non-volvate species, regardless of spore color. Fries restricted the genus to white-spored species, and made into a tribe, which was, like Amanita repeatedly raised to genus rank.

The type is unclear. L. procera is considered the type (by Earle, 1909). Agaricus columbrinus (L. clypeolarus) was also suggested (by Singer, 1946) to avoid the many combination involved otherwise in splitting Macrolepiota, which include L. procera. Since both species had been placed into different genera prior to their selection (in Leucocoprinus and Mastocephalus respectively), Donk observes that a conservation will probably be needed, expressing support for Singer's emendation.

On Psalliota

Etym.: ψάλιον, "ring"

Psalliota was first published by Fries (1821) as trib. Psalliota. The type is Agaricus campestris (widely accepted, except by Earle, who proposed A. cretaceus). Kummer (not Quélet, who merely excluded Stropharia) was the first to elevate the tribe to a genus. Basically, Psalliota was the tribe containing the type of Agaricus, so when separated, it should have caused the rest of the genus to be renamed, not what happened. It seems to be currently not considered valid, or a junior homotypic synonym, anyway the explanation is that it was raised by (in retrospect) erroneously maintaining the tribe name.

On Amanita

Etym.: Possibly from Amanon,a mountain in Cilicia.

A first incarnation from Tentamen dispositionis methodicae Fungorum 65. 1797 is cited as devalidated: "Introduced to cover three groups already previously distinguished by Persoon (in Tent. 18. 1797) under Agaricus L., but at that time not named. It is worth stressing that was not mentioned."

With Agaricus L. in use, Amanita was a nomen nudum per modern standard, so Persoon gave it a new life unrelated to its previous incarnations, and that is finally published after a starting date by Hooker (the citation is Pers. per Hook., 1821). He reuses Withering's 1801 definition (A botanical arrangement of British plants, 4th ed.). "The name Amnita has been considered validly published on different occasions, depending on various considerations." Proposed types include (given as Amanita. Sometimes they were selected as Agarici):

• A. livida Pers. (By Earle, in 1909). Had been excluded in Vaginata or Amanitopsis and could not be chosen.
• A. muscaria Pers. (By Clemens & Shear, 1931) for the genus (1801) from Synopsis fungorum, was generally transferred to the one from Hooker's Flora of Scotland, which is currently considered the valid publication of Amanita (or was in the 50s).
• A. phalloides (by Singer, 1936) for the 1801 genus.
• A.bulbosa (by Singer & Smith, 1946) for Gray's republication. This is incorrect as Gray's A. bulbosa is a synonym of A. citrina. Some authors consider Gray to be the first valid republisher.
• A. caeserea (by Gilbert, 1940). Troublesome because not known personally to Persoon or Fries.

Donk concludes the earliest valid type is A. muscaria, the species in Hooker, adding that he'd personally favor A. citrina.

The name has been republished three times in 1821: in Hooker, Roques and Gray (in that order). Roques maintained Persoon's circumscription, including Amanitopsis and Volvaria. Gray excluded Amanitopsis and Volvariella into Vaginata. Right after, Fries reset the name by reducing the genus to a tribe of Agaricus, minus pink-spored Volvariella. This tribe became a subgenus, than genus via various authors, Quélet, altough not the first, often being attributed the change. Sometimes it was used in a Persoonian sense (whether that is a correct use according to ICBN is not clear to me).

Homonyms of Amanita Pers. are Amanita adans. (1763, devalidated) and Amanita (Dill) Rafin. (1830)

On Boletus

Not including (Not in Agaricaceae, sorry).

Phew! Circeus 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. Circeus 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Pork

LOL, I love your sense of humour. Maimonedes is a good reference. The reality is that Islam takes food restrictions from Judaism; and Christianity doesn't have any restriction (courtesy of three references in the New Testament). The reason why pork should be restricted (along with many other things) is not given explicitly in the Hebrew Bible, hence Bible commentators have been offering guesses since ancient times. My own favourite, however, is Mary Douglas, wife of Louis Leakey, daughter of a Lutheran pastor. Her theory is excellent, based on her cultural anthropological observations, with a decent feel for how Biblical text works. It's rather an abstract theory though. Anyway, I'll see if I can manage a literature review of dietry restrictions in the ANE, especially if there's anything explicit about pork. Don't think I'll find a reference for "why" the pork taboo is in place, though, if it's documented, I'd have read about that in commentaries. Perhaps a clay tablet with the answer has been destroyed in only the last few years during the "troubles" in Iraq. :( Alastair Haines (talk) 21:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

This is the great thing about uncertainty. Lacking an answer, the reports of Maimonides, Mary Douglas and the other guy mentioned are fascinating.Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Scotish pork taboo is a remarkable article! Thanks for that, lol. Alastair Haines (talk) 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Spotted this. I'll look for a ref to the Maimonides comment. The normal teaching is that pork is no more or less offensive to Jews than any other forbidden meat (dog, horse etc) or forbidden part of kosher animal (blood, Gid Hanasheh etc). The pig (NB pig, not pork – an important distinction which is relevant for the Maimonides comment too, I note) is "singled out" because it alone of the animals that have one of the two "signs" (it has split hooves but doesn't chew the cud) lies down with its legs sticking out. Most quarapeds have their legs folded under them. There's a midrashic lesson to be learned there, apparently, that the pig is immodestly and falsely proclaiming its religious cleanliness, when it is not. Anyway, that said, I'll look into the M comment – he was quite ahead of his time in terms of medical knowledge (check his biog). And NB my OR/POV antennae buzzed when I read that little section. --Dweller (talk) 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone has tagged the Religious restrictions on the consumption of pork for OR, though the talk page seems to indicate it is for a different reason....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... makes me more dubious, but I'll check. btw... I'm not Alastair! --Dweller (talk) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Have found good stuff, including online version of Maimonides text. I'll dump it here for you to use as you wish.

I maintain that the food which is forbidden by the Law is unwholesome. There is nothing among the forbidden kinds of food whose injurious character is doubted, except pork (Lev. xi. 7), and fat (ibid. vii. 23). But also in these cases the doubt is not justified. For pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter. The principal reason why the Law forbids swine's flesh is to be found in the circumstance that its habits and its food are very dirty and loathsome. It has already been pointed out how emphatically the Law enjoins the removal of the sight of loathsome objects, even in the field and in the camp; how much more objectionable is such a sight in towns. But if it were allowed to eat swine's flesh, the streets and houses would be more dirty than any cesspool, as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks.

So, Maimonides argues "pork contains more moisture than necessary , and too much of superfluous matter", whatever that means! More importantly, the "principal reason" is that if you keep pigs, you end up with a dirty and unhealthy environment. Important note: Maimonides was writing from Islamic Egypt at the time, which is why he mentions "as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks." (ie France)

The comments about the pig's habit of lying with its legs outstretched come from Midrash Vayikra Rabba (ch 13) where it is mentioned as part of an elaborate metaphor, but not in connection with any reason for particularly abhorring the creature.

Hope that helps. --Dweller (talk) 09:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

References

1. Maimonides, Guide for the perplexed, Book III ch.48. Can be viewed online at http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/gfp184.htm

Alpha Centauri

I have unfortunately had to revert much of the changes you have made to the Alpha Centauri page – mainly to the structure revisions that you have done. While I agree it is best to standardise between bright star pages (i.e. Sirius), there is significant problems doing so to the Alpha Centauri page. The problem in previous edits is the confusion with Alpha Centauri the star and Alpha Centauri as a system. There was much about alpha centauri, especially its brightness compared to Arcturus as well as the relationship with Proxima Centauri. (See the Discussion with the associated page to this article.) It was thought best to avoid complexity by giving the basic information, and add complexity in sections so information could be understood at various levels of knowledge. Also as there is much interest in Alpha Centauri from children to amateur astronomers, it was best to give the introduction as brief as possible and explain the complexities as we go. As to modifications of articles as drastically as you have done to complex article, it might be better to do so with some discussion in the discussion section before doing so. Although I note that you have much experience in doing wiki edits, much better than me, it is better to make small changes in complex articles paragraph by paragraph than carte blanche changes. (I am very happy to discuss any issues on the article with you in the alpha centauri discussion to improve the article.)

As to the introduction, much of the additions you have made are actually speculative, and are not necessary on fact. I.e. "This makes it a logical choice as "first port of call" in speculative fiction about interstellar travel, which assumes eventual human exploration, and even the discovery and colonization of imagined planetary systems. These themes are common to many video games and works of science fiction." has little to do with the basic facts on alpha centauri. I.e. Nearest star, third brightest star, binary star, etc. As for "Kinematics" as a title, this is irrelevant (Sirius article also has it wrong). (Also see Discussion page for Alpha Centauri with SpacePotato) Note: I have contributed much to this page – 713 edits according to the statistics. (27th April 2008 to today) Arianewiki1 18:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

O-kay...taken it to the talk page.Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Bract pattern

You know what I don't get? On page 245 of George (1981), and again on page 40 of Collins (2007), George gives a diagram showing the arrangement of unit inflorescences on a Banksia flower spike. Both diagrams clearly show a hexagonal layout; i.e. every common bract is surrounded by six equidistant common bracts, thus forming little hexagons. In support of this, George (1981) states "The unit inflorescences are so arranged on the axis that there are three pattern lines—vertical, and both dextral and sinistral spiral."

I haven't dissected an inflorescence, but in some species the pattern persists right through flowering and can be seen on the infructescence. You won't get a better example than this B. menziesii cone. Look at that pattern. There's no way you could call it hexagonal. It is a rectangular (or rather diamond, since the lines are diagonal) grid. Depending on how you define a neighbourhood, you could argue that each common bract has 4 or 8 neighbours, but there's no way you could argue for 6. Similarly, you could argue for two pattern lines (dextral and sinistral spiral) or four (dextral, sinistral, vertical and horizontal), but there is no way you could argue for 3, because there is no reason to include vertical whilst excluding horizontal). On top of that there is a beautiful symmetry in the way each common bract is surrounded by its own floral bracts and those of its neighbours. But George's diagrams destroy that symmetry.

I thought maybe B. menziesii was an exception to a general rule, but you can see the same diamond grid, though not as clearly, in File:Banksia serrata4.jpg, and I reckon (but am not certain) I can see it in my B. attenuata cone. And in File:Banksia prionotes mature cone.jpg too. What the heck is going on?

(I'm not just being a pretentious wanker here. I thought the diagram was interesting and informative enough for me to whip up an SVG version for Misplaced Pages. But since copying George's diagram isn't really on, and it is much better to go straight from nature if possible, I was basing my version on this B. menziesii cone. But it isn't going to work if the diagram shows a rectangular grid and the text has to say it is hexagonal.)

Hesperian 13:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me on this one – I think it was Alex (or Kevin??) who told me that every bract pattern was unique to a species and hence diagnostic, but as far as I know not much if anything has been published on this area. The similarity between archaeocarpa and attenuata was noted (the bract pattern remaining in the fossils). I seem to recall feeling bamboozled as well by the description when I read it some time ago. I will have to refresh myself with some bedtime reading....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Update: I had a look at the pages in question in the banksia book(s), there is a little bit more in the 1981 monograph but not much. I meant to ring Alex George about this and should do so in the next few days...I guess the photos look sort of like hexagons stretched vertically :P Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Dipsacus fullonum Just passing through. I am not an expert with flora but I do take photos now and again. Does this image from my personal collection help or hinder your discussion? I see diamonds --Senra (talk) 12:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Haha yeah. Not a bad comparison at all. a diamond pattern it is there as well. You sorta let your eyes go a little out of focus and see two diagonal lines....Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Question

I note that the last six images to be posted on your talk page were posted by me. I'm not sure whether to apologise....

What is going on in the lower image? Clearly this is an inflorescence in very early bud, but those furry white things are apparently not developing flower pairs. Are they some kind of protective bract or something?

Hesperian 01:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

You certainly see those thingies on the developing buds of alot of banksias. I'd be intrigued what the Nikulinsky book, which is essentially a series of plates of a developing menziesii inflorescence, says (not sure, I don't recall whether it had commentary...). Another thing to look up. Was about to look up the patterns just now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Now I have looked at the books and bract architecture, question is are they common bracts or are they something which falls off (don't think so but..). Something else to ask Alex. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:49, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Having found nothing in George, I've been reading Douglas's stuff on ontogeny of Proteaceae flowers, and found nothing there either.

If you snap a spike axis in half, they are just that brown colour, and essentially made of closely packed fuzz. I wonder if there is initially no gap in the axis for the flower to grow, so the developing flower literally has to shove some of the axis out in front of it as it extends. This would explain everything except for the white tip. Hesperian 10:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I have today taken a long lunch and gone bushwalking with Gnangarra. While he took happy-snaps, I did some OR on this question. My diagnosis is: these are peduncles that have developed common bracts, but have not yet developed floral bracts or flowers.

In very young spikes like the one pictured here, they are not yet very densely packed together, so they can be perceived as individual peduncles. Given time, they will continue to grow, and as they do so they will become more and more densely packed together, until eventually they are jammed together so tightly that their dense coverings of hairs form the fibrous brown material that comprises a typical flower spike, and the common bracts at their apex will form the bract pattern on the surface of the spike. At that point, they will no longer be distinguishable as individual peduncles, but will simply be part of the spike.

When the flowers start to develop, they get squeezed together even more. At this point, sometimes, a peduncle may break off the axis and be squeezed right out of the spike as the flowers around it develop. Thus you may see one or two of these furry things sitting at random positions on the surface of a developed flower spike.

As evidence for this hypothesis I offer the following observations:

1. Wherever one of those "furry things" is found loose on the surface of a spike, you will also find a gap in the bract pattern beneath it, where the common bract is absent;
2. "Furry things" may occasionally be found partly out of the spike, but partly in, in which cases the white tip is quite obviously the common bract. In such cases removal of the "furry thing" leaves behind a visible hole in the spike where a common bract ought to be.

Hesperian 05:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Interesting – Gah! Forgot to ring Alex – evening is a crazy time with little availability for me, but will see what I can do. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Not OR any more. Look at the picture of "Banksia flower bud seen in profile" here: clear evidence of the common and floral bracts forming one of those little furry upside-down pyramids, with the flower arising from it. Hesperian 03:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

On a tangential point, the first image would most likely pass FPC if it ever finds a home that is appropriate. Noodle snacks (talk) 06:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, okay, hopefully Hesperian will see this thread. :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Gosh, would it really?! I was quite proud of it but a bit unsure whether it had enough depth of field. But if I'll take anyone's word that it would probably pass, I'll take Noodle snacks. :-) Hesperian 23:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Banksia menziesii with persistent florets

While I was out a-walking in the bush one day last week, I spied a banksia with an unfamiliar jizz. Even on closer inspection I was bamboozled for half a minute until the pieces fell together and I realised I was looking at a B. menziesii with persistent florets. Not just a bit late to fall: there were old cones from previous seasons with the florets still bolted on. In fact, there wasn't a single bald cone on the whole tree. I've never seen anything like it. Have you? Hesperian 04:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm..interesting. I have not ever noticed a menziesii like this, but not to say it can't happen. Might it be a menziesii/prionotes hybrid – how far is the tree from you? I'd compare the newgrowth/leaf dimensions/trunk all for comparison. Did it have any new flowers? Some of these old cones have an aura of prionotes about them...Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

prionotes crossed my mind at first, but the bark is that of menziesii, and nothing like the distinctive prionotes bark. And the flower spikes lack the woolliness of old prionotes florets.

It's quite near my place; about ten minutes drive. Even closer to where Alex lives (assuming he still lives at the address he has been publishing under lately): only five minutes drive from there I would guess. If it's prionotes (which it isn't), then we've extended the known range of that species 10km south. Likewise, a hybrid means there's a prionotes population nearby, so it amounts to the same thing. Hesperian 05:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Banksiamyces again

I finally made it to the library and got a hold of the article you had asked about a couple of weeks ago. There's enough info there to make DYK-worthy stubs on the genus, and three of the species (macrocarpus, katerinae, toomanis), or, alternatively, maybe enough for a GA on the genus. What are the chances of images? Apparently these fungi make small but visible apothecia on the seed capsules. Berkeley and Broome first wrote about the fungus in 1887, so maybe there's a sketch from the protologue that's useable. Anyway, I'll start adding text in a day or two and maybe we can have the first Banksia/Fungi wikiproject collaboration? Sasata (talk) 14:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Berkeley & Broome (1887) is online at http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/13683 — see page 217. There is a picture at Plate 29 figure 18. Hesperian 02:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

That's a nice image on plate 29 there. They call it Tympanis toomanis on page 224 decription of plate. How do we capture that image and replicate it on commons? Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Like this. Hesperian 03:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

On page 222, they talk about finding it on a banksia cone near the Tooma River in southern NSW, which leaves me thinking it is a cone of Banksia marginata although they do not state this (OR alert ++++). Funny looking marginata cone but marginata is a hugely variable species....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Check your email; I've sent you a copy of Beaton (1982), where they do state that the cone is B. marginata. (You guys should have asked me first; I could have saved Sasata a walk to the library.) Hesperian 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

@Sasata – I'll leave it up to you whether a solid GA and one DYK for the whole shebang, or 4 species articles – you've got the material and I am happy either way. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Am working on the article behind-the-scenes now... that picture you uploaded is excellent, and thanks Hesp for finding the protologue. Too bad the scan resolution is so crappy; I can upload a screen capture/crop to Commons, but will first investigate to see if there's a copy of the original around here so I might rescan at higher resolution. Four DYKs and 1 GA doesn't sound unreasonable for the lot, but I'll see what I can come up with. Sasata (talk) 03:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

The resolution is good. I guess you were looking at it at 25%. Try zooming in. Hesperian 03:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it'll do the trick. I gave the article a good push towards GA. Hesp, do you have easy access to Beaton 1984, or maybe Fuhrer, B,; May, T. (1993). "Host specificity of disc-fungi in the genus Banksiamyces on Banksia." Victorian Naturalist (South Yarra) 110 (2):73–75? I think once those two are located and added, that'll be it from journals (but you may find stuff to add from your Banksia books?). I could start stubs for the species, but it would be a shame to have to leave out B. maccannii. Sasata (talk) 07:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I can probably get Vic Naturalist at UNSW Library next tuesday or friday (slim chance on weekend). Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

When you get to Victorian Naturalist, you'll also want to grab Sommerville, K.; May, T. (2006). "Some taxonomic and ecological observations on Banksiamyces". The Victorian Naturalist. 123: 366–375.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) Hesperian 08:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for finding that, wonder why it didn't show up in my database search. Cas, if it's too mush hassle for you to get these, let me know and I can order them, would take 1–2 weeks to get here.

I'll have easy access to Beaton (1984) on Monday. No access to Victorian Naturalist. Hesperian 08:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot again. I've just scanned it now. Cas: I'll forward shortly; if you have Sasata's email address, can you forward it on please? Otherwise, Sasata: send me an email so I know where to send this scan. Hesperian 04:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any email link on your user page... I can wait until Cas forward a copy. Thanks kindly Sasata (talk) 15:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I guess you've never noticed the "Email this user" link in the sidebar toolbox.... Hesperian 23:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

! Wouldya look at that... That's embarrassing! Now excuse me while I go give eyewitness testimony in a murder trial. Sasata (talk) 23:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Hang on a sec, will send. Also, will be near the library again for Vic Naturalist. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha. Fantastic. I just realised I never uplaoded a funny photo I took in WA a few years ago. I need to double check.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

As OZtrylia has a notoriously under described rang of and field of mycology study – any signs of further fungi or algae work is to be encouraged at all points SatuSuro 01:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Taking pity on poor Cas, whose Banksia books are still packed up in boxes:

From Collins, Collins and George (2008), page 47, first paragraph of a section entitled "Fungi and lichens":

"Many kinds of fungi are associated with Banksias. There is even a genus of fungi named for their association with these plants—Banksiamyces. The first species of these was recognised in the 1880s and placed in the genus Tympanis, then in the 1950s transferred to the genus Encoelia. Further collections and research led to the description of the genus Banksiamyces by Beaton and Weste in 1982, with two further species. Six taxa are now recognised, so far known from 13 species of Banksia (Sommerville & May, 2006). Commonly known as banksia discs, they have all been found on eastern Australian Banksias and one is also known in Western Australia. They are discomycete fungi, growing on the fruit and appearing as small, shallow dark cups on the follicles (Fuhrer, 2005). When dry they fold inwards and look like narrow slits. Their effect is unkown but it seems unlikely that they are responsible for degradation of the seeds."

At the bottom of the page there is a photo of Banksiamyces on B. lemanniana. They look like little light grey maggots on the follicles. Based on the photo and textual description, I would suggest that the B. violacea photo doesn't show this genus. Hesperian 11:17, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, that's what I initially thought when I read the description and sketches in Beaton 1982, but after seeing B&B's 1872 sketches, I was pretty sure Cas's pic was a Banksiamyces. I guess I should reserve judgment until I get more info. Sasata (talk) 17:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

From the abstract of Somerville and May 2006: "Apothecia of these crops are of different macroscopic appearance, with lighter apothecia being mostly immature, and darker apothecia producing spores." ... so who knows? Sasata (talk) 17:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Anything else to add to this article? Shall we put it up for GAN? Sasata (talk) 17:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah put it up, there might be some bits and pieces. I'll take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Any Banksia experts you're chums with that might be able to give a confirmation on your putative Banksiamyces photo? Sasata (talk) 05:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

damn, I meant to contact Tom May about it (who has been helpful before). Will dig up his email and see what he says. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

More bedtime reading

—the most recent phylogeny and dating of Proteaceae. Easy to miss with such an obscure title. Hesperian 12:08, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Abraham Halpern

You may want to have a look there as well. Appears to have been improved by a Szasz fan. I've read diagonally this article, but even that doesn't seem to support the light in which the Halpern-Szasz issue is presented in Misplaced Pages. Tijfo098 (talk) 13:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Just go back from a weekend break with no innernet..now where was I.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Figs

Okay, I'm giving my impression on F. maxima, since I'm not clear what you are actually asking. The description, I must say, is a particularly lacking part of the article under any evaluation criterion. Even as one who appreciates the topic, I'm finding the taxonomy section very confusing. As in Entoloma sinuatum, I'll gladly have a look into rewriting it if you want me to. The huge list of synonym suggest there is significant variation in the plant, possibly infraspecific taxa? I agree the Reproduction section is possibly too detailed. It can probably be reduced to a 2-paragraph primer and merged into "Ecology", though I have a hard time identifying what is species (or could be!) species-specific and what is not, as I have no familiarity with the plants in question (not to mention I am not an actual plant scientist even compared to you).

One of the greater-scale problem I see, which you might want to work on if you're going to take aim at several of these articles, is that information on the peculiar reproduction suystem in figs as a whole is spread across multiple articles (the genus article, Common fig and other species, syconium) and poorly focused, leaving no good article to aim {{main}} links at. I suspect using syconium as he main article and linking to it from others (including Ficus) might be, in the long run, the best course of action. Circéus (talk) 02:56, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. Don't worry about rewriting anything yet. I was looking at overall meta-article structure WRT reproduction, which you've given me a good idea to work with. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:21, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

FYI

All of the following species are worth 2x points; let me know if you'd be interested in collaborating in one or more for bonus points in a later round. Sasata (talk) 06:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Agaricus bisporus
• Agaricus campestris
• Amanita caesarea
• Amanita citrina
• Amanita pantherina
• Amanita rubescens
• Amanita virosa
• Armillaria mellea
• Coprinus comatus
• Shiitake
• Clitocybe nuda
• Macrolepiota procera
• Marasmius oreades
• Pleurotus ostreatus
• Phallus impudicus
• Russula emetica
• Suillus luteus
• Hydnum repandum

Hahaha – thank heavens for European mushrooms :))) – yeah, I'd like to buff Clitocybe nuda (which was one of the yummiest mushrooms I've eaten), and we really should be improving the other mass-eaten edibles. Also I buffed the sickener for DYK so would be good to finish the job....Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'll move Clitocybe nuda and Russula emetica closer to the top of "the list". I agree the popular edibles would be good to do as well, but they're hard ... we'll see how free time & motivation plays out over the next few months. Sasata (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Constellation task force assessment

Certainly Assessment boxes like the one for the cardiology task force are made by User:WP 1.0 bot. Just post to talk there and it can make your box easily. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that! I've not used bots in my time here. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Aboriginal Astronomy

Hi Casliber – thanks for your note. Yes there's quite a bit more out there which Duane Hamacher and I are slowly trying to get written up. You can find some more stuff on www.emudreaming.com and you may find some papers you havent come across on http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rnorris/papers/papers.htm

Have fun! RayNorris (talk) 03:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Great! I'll have a look and if I find anything specific to nag you on...I will :) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Gene migration research, India --> Australia_Australia-2013-01-22T09:24:00.000Z">

This http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21569688-genetic-evidence-suggests-four-millennia-ago-group-adventurous-indians points to a gene study you may be interested in.... Likely people from the Indian sub-continent mixed with Australian aboriginies 4xxxx years ago. An maybe brought dingos. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 09:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)_Australia"> _Australia">

Will read anon. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:59, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Glasser's choice theory

Could use some work if you're interested. Someone not using his real name (talk) 09:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

ok – will take a look soonish....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:14, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Orange-bellied Parrot

Neophema99 (talk) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Hi. I would like to open for discussion the format of the entry for 'Orange-bellied Parrot'. As news occurs in the recovery program for this species, the limitations of the current format of the Misplaced Pages entry become more obvious. The heading, 'Conservation Status' should, I believe, be reserved for the actual conservation status in Australia, and in the three states, SA, Tasmania and Victoria. What follows after that, but still under that heading, at present, is a running commentary of events since about 2010. This is not acceptable. I propose another heading be inserted, 'Recovery Program' or similar. In it, a short history of the OBP recovery program could be given – since 1980 or so – and then, new events could be smoothly inserted as they happen. What do others think? The Misplaced Pages entry is an important first port of call for many people interested in this bird. We owe it to them, and to history, to provide a better entry.

Neophema99 (talk) 07:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Will take a look. sounds good – helps with seamless updating and no doubt there is a lot of info that could be added. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Obsolete Constellations

I just found an amazing source for articles on them: John Hill's Urania Adam Cuerden 22:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Cool! I was judt giving some feedback to core contest and will look at stub. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:00, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Urania's Mirror has gotten a wee bit less stubby. Adam Cuerden

got any advice for writing a constellation FA?

Thinking of diversifying and trying Corona B. Double sharp (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

It's easier than stars as there is less hardcore physics involved, but trickier as you have to make the material not "listy", which it sort of is by very nature. Smaller constellations are easier as there is less material to list generally. Star guide books, alot of which are on google, are good for general overview, how to find things, what's next to what etc. but alot of their factual info (distance/luminosity) is outdated. I have even suspected this in newer reprints/editions where new material is coming out. SIMBAD is a godsend and makes finding other material easy. I was using it as a ref itself but probably better to use the refs it cites. Overall I find astronomy articles more challenging than biology ones – trickeir to make engaging. We can collaborate on CrB if you like as I did plan on taking it All the Way at some point and then having it as a double mainpage with CrA. Collaborating is good as it makes for less work in some ways – each of us can copyeidt the other etc. 20:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Just popping in during some of the rare free time I have at the moment to say that the hardest part of the constellation articles is figuring out exactly what objects to write about, since there is generally quite a bit of discretion in whether or not something should be in the article. I generally try to write about all stars brighter than magnitude 5.0, and the most-studied astronomical objects within the constellation, as well as a few other things such as extremes (e.g. R136a1) and unusual objects. One tip to find notable stars, I've found, is this SIMBAD query, which lists all Bayer, Flamsteed, and variable stars in each constellation by number of refs. Of course further research is necessary for other stars without said designations, but it's a good start. I would help, but I don't anticipate having much free time at all until at least December. StringTheory11 (t • c) 21:18, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

StringTheory11 Wow! Great idea/find! That really helps. Agree with what you've said. I think it is good to get these in order as it also highlights what other articles are underdone or incorrect etc. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Yup the small size was part of the reason I chose CrB (it's not the only reason though :-P). I'm cool with a collaboration. ST11's suggestions, as always, make a lot of sense. Going to read through some constellation FAs to get an idea of what to write – not least CrA... Double sharp (talk) 02:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Double sharp, I have started buffing with this one. Just arting with the brighter stars – SIMBAD is best place to start and then chasing refs. Not sure how much you know about them (figuring distance from parallax etc...) so just ask away..or start on deep sky objects and I'll continue with stars (??) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Carcinoma in situ

The carcinoma in situ page has been updated and it explains the different views that sometimes carcinoma in situ is seen as a cancer and sometimes it is not. You will probably remember earlier this year that you supported changing my use of the term "invasive cancer" to "cancer". The expression "invasive cancer" is used frequently in books particularly when talking about cancer of the cervix and in my opinion using the term "invasive cancer" can improve clarity. What do you think of the explanations in the carcinoma in situ article? Snowman (talk) 13:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

As it reads right now, which ones are you thinking should have invasive added to them? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Whoops, I have phrased it badly above, but you seem to have understood me. I should have said that you did not support my use of "invasive cancer" and you preferred the use of "cancer" instead. Actually, to me, it is not as simple as just inserting the word "invasive". Back then, I saw a better phrase in a reference and I thought about using it, because I thought that it would be accurate, readable, and I hoped keep everyone happy; however, the situation become unnecessarily tense and I felt like I was walking on eggs (and you know what that means). I did not get around to developing the article any further nor mentioning the "magical" phrase. I will see if I can find the phrase again. I recall that the solution was to use a short phrase in the place of cancer or invasive cancer in the introduction. I am talking in riddles at the present time, because I want to make sure that I can find that phrase again, and that will mean thinking about the introduction again. Snowman (talk) 20:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Okay, let me know what you are thinking of once you get it clear. It is an intriguing question. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

I would recommend the amendment belew, because the demarcation between non-cancer and cancer varies according to the literature, as we have seen, and this is made more difficult by a simplified language and vocabulary used to communicate the complex situation to patients. A definition of cancer that includes in-situ cancer is well established, but perhaps the world of the cytologist or histopathologist is a small world, where to say "invasive cancer" is not unusual. This is the current line in the introduction; "Cervical cytology tests can often detect precursors of cervical cancer and enable early successful treatment.". I think that it would be more accurate if it said something like; "The main aim of cervical cytology screening is to detect precursors of cancer and early cervical cancer to enable early successful treatment.". In this new line a full spectrum from viral changes to dysplasia to carcinoma-in-situ to early invasive cancer is included, so the controversy over where to put the non-cancer/cancer line disappears, and the meaning is clear no matter where the reader puts the line in his or her own mind-map. Snowman (talk) 13:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I reworded it like this to make it flow better yet be inclusive and cover all interpretations. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

After some deep thought, I think that your edit is good enough. Snowman (talk) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

• What do you think about making a joint nomination with me to take the cervix article to FA review sometime? I would not be planning to edit much of the "History" and "Other animals" sections, because I do not know much about those topics. I am not usually on the nominator's side of the fence, but I would be willing to step into that role here, partly to test the water. Snowman (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea – the prerequisites for being a nominator are being reasonably familar with the article and having the ability to address issues raised at FAC. Do you see anything else that needs fixing before listing it at FAC? 02:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh good. I would like to have a long look at the article before FA nomination, and I expect that I will not feel happy with the article as a potential FA nomination for several weeks. There is some content and page organization in the article (as it is now) that I would like to reflect on. The peer review is also worth re-visiting to see what was not achieved there. I will probably attempt to start a few discussions on the article talk page where relevant. Do you have any time frame in mind or any particular schedule of your own to work around? Of course, I would ask you to constructively criticize my work whenever you think that anything can be improved, and I will try to focus on the issue and answer honestly and objectively trying not to be fractious nor stubborn, with a view to learning from my errors. It think that it will work better like that, than keeping quite or not speaking up when you do not agree with your co-nominator. I am saying that because I guessed that you have not felt easy about not supporting your co-nominator in FA reviews previously. Also, as before, please be alert to my writing style, which can sometimes need re-phrasing owing to clumsy grammar, although the content is often unambiguous (to me at least). Apart from that, it could be challenging writing for general readers and even more challenging writing for specialist readers that are unfamiliar with the small world of histopathology. Snowman (talk) 12:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Snowmanradio I have no time scale on this so it sorta takes as long as it takes. The refs need fixing for page numbers. The material is pretty good – only thing from PR left is double checking lymphatic drainage really I thought. Anyway. Posting things step by step on talk page is good. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:39, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

• I would have though that the "Function" heading would be about normal function. Surly, putting a barrier in front of the cx is not a normal function of the cervix. Also, oc pills are more about pharmacology and modified functioning of the cervix. Should the "Contraception" heading have its own level-2 heading? This has been discussed before, but it is worth starting another discussion on the talk page about this? Snowman (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

I think that the human altering of function is fine there. I think it is fine as a level 3 heading underneath function Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

When medicines affect function, it is called pharmacology. Snowman (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

• In the introduction; "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in shape". Change to: ?

1. "... the cervix is cylindrically shaped usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in cross section".

2. "... the cervix is usually between 2 and 3 cm long and roughly round in in cross section" Snowman (talk) 17:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

I think the first one or something like it – will take a look now. I wonder if the fact it is roughly cylindrical makes saying it's round in cross-section redundant. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Your amendment looks find to me. Snowman (talk) 11:32, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

• Should there be more consistency in using {{main| under more of the headings where there is an obvious main article else where? Snowman (talk) 11:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Snowmanradio Yes that sounds like a good idea. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, I expect that I will add some when I do some editing there. Snowman (talk) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

• Re Vaginal portion of cervix. Have you got any ideas on what to do with this article on the portio (or ectocervix)? I do not know why WP Anatomy has so many articles on sub-parts. If relevant, I expect that a formal discussion would be needed to consider a merge. Snowman (talk) 20:47, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I think it should be merged. Will post something. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I plan to watch for a while and express an opinion, if needed. Snowman (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

It is off to a good start over there. I think that there is nothing on the unreferenced portio page that can be copied over to the cervix page. We could start planing how to present the portio (and its various names) on the cervix page. Snowman (talk) 12:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

• In have found what to me looks like a 2003 copyrighted version of File:Cervix dilation sequence.svg, so I have started a deletion discussion on Commons. Commons administrators will now have a look at it. Initially, I left an message with the uploader on Commons to ask a technical question about the image, and I noticed that he is currently blocked for three months, so I did a search for other copies of the cervix dilation image. The image should show the babies head moving down the birth canal as the cervix dilates, but the head looks stuck. The image is on about a dozen or more Wikis, so they might all be removed by a bot in due course. I am not sure if the image needs removing from the Cervix page at this juncture or not, so I wonder what you think about removal from the en Wiki. Snowman (talk) 09:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh dear – I suspect it will have to be removed, though maybe hold for a moment and see if an explanation is forthcoming. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I recently found a photograph of a rare parrot with the wrong copyright and it was deleted from Commons one week after I started the deletion discussion. Snowman (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

That sounds in keeping with deletion discussions elsehwere – around 1 week. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Update: Image was deleted this yesterday. Snowman (talk) 13:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

• The Cervical cancer article has had a lot of work on it since about June, and it is well worth looking at. I expect that we could shorten (or otherwise amend) the section on cervical cancer in the "cervix" article, because the "cervical cancer" article offers a good readable account. Snowman (talk) 12:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

@Snowmanradio: I will take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

• Re HPV vaccines. Sometimes, I like to tidy up the linked pages. This article was moved from the singular to the pleural in March 2014. I am aware that there is more than one HPV vaccine, but I would expect this to be on the singular name, unless there something controversial about it that I have missed. Snowman (talk) 12:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

@Snowmanradio: yes that is unusual and I think I prefer it at singular. I think it is worth discussing on the talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

• The "Anatomical abnormalities" section looks like a mixture of acquired and congenital diseases. Could this be organized differently? I nearly did a reorganization, but a little re-organization does not change much, and I suspect that it would be easier to do a bit of a re-write. Also, it may be possible to expand the section with a little about the developmental abnormalities of the female genital tract seen in Cryptophthalmos syndrome, Johanson-Blizzard syndrome, Rokitansky Anomalod, and as less commonly seen in Roberts syndrome and Trisomy 18 syndrome. These diseases are not at the front of my mind, however these are in the index of my rather old second-hand book on human malformation. This is not a small change, so I welcome your opinion. Snowman (talk) 13:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

@Snowmanradio: let me take a look. I don't recall it right now and I thought I was happy with it before but will look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I have become unexpectedly busy in real life, so I have not had much time for editing the Wiki. I hope that I will be able to contribute with more editing and work on the cervix article again after about two or three months . Snowman (talk) 10:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

@Snowmanradio: no worries. I found that I have lost interest in it. My free time (of which I have little) has to be enjoyable and thus something I have real enthusiasm for. I found I did get a bit enthusiastic about this one but comes and goes. More interested in frigatebird and brachychiton rupestris now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Also orange-bellied parrot – very interesting story. I find writing about extinct species makes me sad (I leave them to FunkMonk) but rare ones are ok. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Apart from manual editing, I was hoping to write a few scripts for fun to do scanning and mass editing tasks on the Wiki this Autumn and Winter, but can not participate in a meaningful way at the present time. I plan to return when I can and I will look to see what you and User FunkMonk are doing then. Incidentally, have you any thoughts on why discussions about anatomy topics tend to be rather brittle? I might ask that question on the WP Anatomy talk page. Snowman (talk) 10:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean by 'brittle'? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I will ask open-ended questions instead. Do you have any observations about discussions on anatomy topics? Snowman (talk) 12:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the starboxes

They really look spiffy now! :D Benkenobi18 (talk) 16:36, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

They can be a bit fiddly....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:54, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

The elusive Sydney meetup

I am keen to attend and you suggested you would pick a time and date........ on that basis I changed the time to RSN. Should we just say next Thursday at 6PM and I will at least buy you a drink? Regards, Ariconte (talk) 07:07, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

OK, it is on for you and me at least :-) . Do you know how to spam the invite list??? I don't immediately know how but could research. Ariconte (talk) 23:18, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

I see ... you can do it! WP:MMS. Thanks, Ariconte (talk) 01:09, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

I have requested at Wikipedia_talk:Mass_message_senders#Request_for_mass_message_delivery:_September_10.2C_2016. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 06:16, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I gave up.... the bureaucracy got me down. Ariconte (talk) 09:49, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I'll do some pinging. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:12, 10 September 2016 (UTC

Thanks for being the organizer! I have plugged for 17 October repeat which will hopefully fit Tony and others... see the meetup page. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 00:32, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Eega/archive2

I have opened this FAC on September 1. I don't expect a major turnout in the near future. If interested, can you please do a source review? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

GA Cup Barnstar

		The Minor Barnstar
		On behalf of all the GA Cup judges, thank you for participating in the 2016 GA Cup! Although you didn't end up making the top 16, you decided to sign up therefore contributing and we thank you for that. MrWooHoo (T • C) 20:36, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Sydney Meetup next Thursday evening

You are invited to the Sydney Meetup!

• Thursday 15 September at 6PM at Petersham Bowling Club.

  (a) accessible by train - Petersham station

  (b) has some nice draught beers

  (c) has some nice food

  (d) has some quiet areas outside and inside...so people can chat without getting a hoarse voice by shouting over 100 decibels of muzak etc.

  (e) accessible by car with straightforward parking nearby

This message was delivered to the invitation list - to opt out of future invitations please remove your name from the list. 04:04, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 37, 2016)

Adarsha School Narayanganj in Dhaka, Bangladesh Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Education in Bangladesh Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Wedding ring • Holy Spirit Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 02:17, 12 September 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

DYK note

Hi, Casliber. I noticed that you recently moved from Prep to Queue 1 a DYK hook with which I was involved. Please note that the nominator has listed me at Template:Did you know nominations/Madison Street Bridge (Portland, Oregon) as co-creator, as I carried out a major expansion when the article was brand-new. Thanks. SJ Morg (talk) 11:12, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Ok, credit added now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:21, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. SJ Morg (talk) 11:31, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello!

Hey Cas! I've noticed you've made several large contributions to anything featured-related on Misplaced Pages, and was wondering if you could help me out. I recently nominated Gwen Stefani's "Make Me Like You" as a featured article candidate, and it seems to be going quite well so far. One reviewer in particular stated that the article has "prose" issues", and I spent a couple of days going through the article and re-reading it, to which I believe it cleared up nicely. If you could check it out for me and perhaps leave some comments and your opinion, it would be very much appreciated. However, only do so if you have the time, I don't want to inconvenience you! Regards, Carbrera (talk) 18:36, 18 September 2016 (UTC).

Am a bit busy today, but will try to take a look - in the meantime, I strongly suggest looking at User:Tony1/How_to_improve_your_writing and see what you think. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:15, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Contests and improvement drives

Hello. I noticed you running things like the Misplaced Pages:Stub Contest and the Misplaced Pages:The Core Contest, and I was wondering how much work it is to organize and run those and where the prizes come from. I have an idea for clearing out some of the maintenance backlogs. See this diff where I mention it. ~ ONUnicornproblem solving 14:24, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Aah @ONUnicorn: you mean something like another thing I was planning - see User:Casliber/Golden Gnome - though more than happy if someone else does something like this. What happens is that WMUK has microgrants (see here). I put up proposals at here, here and here. Happy to help you create a contest, it's pretty easy and fun. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

The Voice season 11

Hi I would like a request to protect the page The Voice (U.S. season 11) from unauthorized users to avoid disruptive editing thank u! ;) Chanels4ever (talk) 23:36, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:32, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2016)

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GA Cup Announcement

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup Greetings, all! We would like to announce the start of the 4th GA Cup, a competition that seeks to encourage the reviewing of Good article nominations! Thus far, there have been three GA Cups, which were successful in reaching our goals of significantly reducing the traditionally long queue at GAN, so we're doing it again. Currently, there are over 400 nominations listed. We hope that we can again make an impact this time. The 4th GA Cup will begin on November 1, 2016. Four rounds are currently scheduled (which will bring the competition to a close on February 28, 2017), but this may change based on participant numbers. We may take a break in December for the holidays, depending on the results of a poll of our participants taken shortly after the competition begins. The sign-up and submissions process will remain the same, as will the scoring. Sign-ups for the upcoming competition are currently open and will close on October 31, 2016. Everyone is welcome to join; new and old editors, so sign-up now! If you have any questions, take a look at the FAQ page and/or contact one of the judges. Cheers from 3family6, Figureskatingfan, Jaguar, MrWooHoo, and Zwerg Nase. To subscribe or unsubscribe to future GA Cup newsletters, please add or remove your name to our mailing list. If you are a participant, you will be on the mailing list no matter what as this is the easiest way to communicate between all participants.

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DYK for Spotted pardalote

On 29 September 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Spotted pardalote, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the spotted pardalote has been called the headache bird on account of its repetitive call? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Spotted pardalote. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Spotted pardalote), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The Rambling Man arbitration proposed decision posted

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This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2016)

Tetragnatha montana

Start? really? After you classed it as such I checked out some other C Class spider articles. I think this is a C Class but I don't assess my own articles. Thanks for your edits by the way.Quetzal1964 20:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)‎

On auto. You are right. will rerate. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:23, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Quetzal1964 07:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

FAC reviewing barnstar

		The Reviewer Barnstar
		FAC can't function without people like you contributing reviews. Thank you for the six FAC reviews and four image/source reviews you did during September. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:53, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Belgium national football team FAC2

Hi, the article Belgium national football team is under review as FAC again. At the first FA review you raised a couple of general issues and provided a "Support" after I coped with them. I thank you and the other FA reviewers for this critical input as it helped to get the article forward. You are warmly invited to have a second look now. Regards, Kareldorado (talk) 15:59, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon

Hi, Anthere has requested a central notice here. Is it possible you could see to it yourself that something is put up announcing this? Anthere has also requested some experienced editors to help with the current Nigerian Wiki Loves Women contest, I don't know if you'd be interested in offering some advice or guidance on that. It's a very good cause and I've contributed myself at least a dozen articles but I'm not sure exactly what they're looking for in judging it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:23, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: I got the ping, went to your page...and got sidetracked by the AfD..."Mary from DoDS!! no way!!" Will take a look now...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:59, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Casliber. Indeed, as pointed out by @Dr. Blofeld:, your help would be welcome on the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Wiki Loves Women /Team Nigeria/Contests. Shola is looking for some support to set up the jury (and perhaps help in setting criteria ?). As far as I understood, User:Rosiestep will also help (since she volunteered to coach the Nigeria team) (but I suspect she might be completely under water with the m:WikiConference North America. Thanks Anthere (talk)

@Anthere: ok I will take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:42, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

@Anthere: - You're right. It's WikiConference North America Day1 and it has my full attention. I don't recall volunteering to coach the Nigeria team as I recognized I was maxed out with conference planning, followed by a geographic move at the end of the month. I apologize for my current unavailability, but when my calendar stabilizes, it would be my pleasure to mentor the team. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

@Rosiestep:, oh. Shola mentioned your name in an email to me as being a help on this, but we might have misunderstood one another. In any cases, I remember you said last summer that the conference would be your autumn energy drainer :) Anthere (talk)

This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2016)

A spelling bee at Jhenidah Cadet College in Bangladesh Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Spelling bee Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Math rock • List of German painters Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 04:02, 10 October 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

DYK for Cape Wickham Links

On 15 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cape Wickham Links, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that golfers share the 18-hole Cape Wickham Links on King Island with short-tailed shearwaters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cape Wickham Links. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cape Wickham Links), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

May I interest you

...in this? - FrB.TG (talk) 10:41, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

I'll take a look soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:59, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2016)

NASA researchers at Glenn Research Center conducting tests on aircraft engine noise in 1967 Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Noise Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Spelling bee • Math rock Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:07, 17 October 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Wiki Loves Women- Monthly Contest

Hi Calisber, trust you are fine.We appreciate great work that you are doing on Misplaced Pages. We therefore seek your expertise as a jury in our monthly writing contest to Promote Nigerian women. Please add your name here Cc:@Anthere:. Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 06:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

@Olaniyan Olushola: I am not clear on whether this is a standalone contest or part of one of the broader contests....? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:57, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi, it depends on you and your availability. Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 09:15, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

The link doesn't work - I can help judge but I think that a contest that only concentrates on such a narrow category is doomed to failure. All other contests are broad in outlook. I don't understand how my participation influences how broad or narrow it is...? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:30, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for accepting to be one of the judge in our contest.As per case of depth of the contest. Kindly note that it is a monthly contest and each month will be tagged with unique title. The month of October, will be tagged Women in Politics. Please let me know how you feel.Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 20:49, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Calisber kindly meet User:Gereon K. one of the Jury in the contest.Olaniyan Olushola (talk) 21:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Just sending this because you've done the majority of edits on her page...

The link on https://en.wikipedia.org/Lisa-Ann_Gershwin is dead now. Not sure if there is any other evidence or publication related to the claim.

beroe (talk) 20:33, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Redirect help

Hello Cas, could you help me with a redirect for a bird Family page? It is not a straight-forward one and I don't want to mess it up and lose the edit history of the pages.

1. The Pachycephalidae page should be renamed/moved to "Whistler (bird)". This would be in order to change to the common name from the scientific name. But to do this, we would need to address: 2. The "Whistler (bird)" page already exists however, serving as the redirect page to the subfamily Pachycephalinae. 3. The Pachycephalidae page could then be a redirect page to "Whistler (bird)". 4. Also, the Whistlers redirect page would have to change to a disambiguation page to allow the reader to choose between "Whistler (bird)" and "Whistler (radio)"

Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 03:32, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Loopy30: We've had this dilemma before with other families and genera - if you look on IOC, the family Pachycephalidae is called "whistlers and allies". "Whistler (bird)" is most equivalent to the genus Pachycephala (which is where the term should redirect to). Even the subfamily contains birds not known as whistlers. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:52, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Casliber: Hmmm, I'm not sure a page title of "Whistlers and allies" would be any better than "Pachycephalidae". I think I shall leave it like it is for the time being. I see that other family pages also are not always named iaw IOC. "Monarchidae" points to "Monarch flycatcher", instead of "Monarch (bird)" even though not all species have monarch in their common name. Thanks for the quick reply! Loopy30 (talk) 13:05, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

wanna review an element everyone's heard of?

Iodine is up at GAN. Double sharp (talk) 16:42, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Double sharp:, BTW Apus is at GAN - if you wanna still write a constellation then looking at or even reviewing another might be prudent. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:58, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm not really so keen on writing one now, but I might take on the review in a few days once I've looked at a few others. Double sharp (talk) 11:47, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Clematis glycinoides

On 23 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clematis glycinoides, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the intense fumes emitted by the crushed leaves of the so-called headache vine (pictured) cause one to feel like his head is "exploding" ... making him forget all about his headache? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clematis glycinoides. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Clematis glycinoides), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Queue 3

Hi, I just made a few corrections to Prep 3 a few minutes before you promoted it, but the corrections don't appear in Queue 3...? Yoninah (talk) 09:56, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, there they are when I cleared my browser. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 09:57, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

I saw - and added. those pesky purges....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:58, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2016)

The attic at a factory Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Attic Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Noise • Spelling bee Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:07, 24 October 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

The Voice season 11

Greetings! please protect The Voice (U.S. season 11) for authorized users again to avoid vandalism. Thank you! :) Chanels4ever (talk) 01:33, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

@Chanels4ever: wow that's alot of IP editing since semiprotection was lifted - how much is vandalism and how much is legit editing? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:19, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

WLW writing contest Nigeria September 2016

Hi Casliber, fellow judge of the contest, I made a list of all eligible articles written for the contest. You can find it at User:Gereon K./WLW Nigeria September 2016. I suggest to discuss the process of judging by e-mail. Best regards, --Gereon K. (talk) 09:27, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. Sorry have been a bit under the weather the last few days. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:11, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

I hope that you get well soon. Please answer my e-mail. Without your e-mail-adress I cannot adress both you and Sydney at the same time. :) --Gereon K. (talk) 13:46, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:14, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Bratton Downs

On 26 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bratton Downs, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a Duke of Burgundy has been spotted on Bratton Downs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bratton Downs. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bratton Downs), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

DYK for Tetragnatha montana

On 27 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tetragnatha montana, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that in a Polish study, the silver stretch spider ate an average of 3.7 mosquitoes per day in early June? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tetragnatha montana. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Incomplete DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Olearia tomentosa at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 14:14, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Edits needed to Queue 2

Casliber, I wasn't sure whether you'd seen the WT:DYK#Pull needed from Queue 2 post. Even aside from the issue of whether one hook needs to be pulled (Nikkimaria is usually spot on when articles duplicate text), there are a large number of DYKmake templates that don't have a subpage parameter but definitely need one. I've explained there how to figure out which ones do need the parameter (it's for at least two multi-article hooks), and if no one has done it by the time you see this, it would be great if you did, since you were the one who did the prep to queue promotion. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:02, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I would like to add to this that each of the actor's articles has now been tagged for lacking inline citations for one or (many) more unreferenced appearances. Also, the Wonut article now has a couple of tags for unreferenced claims of names. The latter is not such a big deal as I guess you could remove those claimed names, but the Ariel nomination needs to be kicked to the kerb/curb. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok, just having coffee. Umm....right, let's look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:36, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Wikiquote

Hi, I would like to invite you to contribute to our sister project Wikiquote. Some articles there that may use more informative quotes include:

• q:Zoo: Needs more quotes on Charismatic megafauna (example a quote which explicitly states their names, i.e. fills in the gap between "aardvark to zebra" (I added this quote) and their depiction on movies (example the Kung Fu Panda franchise for Giant panda).
• q:Species: Needs a short succinct quote which explains nicely the discrepancy between the non-existence of Charismatic megafauna in invertebrates (including: insects, corals, mollusca, arachnids, crustaceans) and the comparatively larger ~1.3 million number of species compared to vertebrates.

Do let me know if you are interested in this. If you are uninterested can you consider pinging some folks in the reply message who can be potential contributors to Wikiquote. Solomon7968 13:38, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Bit busy at the moment. Will take a look later Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:18, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

how to make DYK hooks actually interesting

The saving-people-at-Auschwitz thing for cerium was quite impressive and I've nominated that for DYK, but for the life of me I cannot think of something cool in the iodine article that I would like to say on the main page. The closest I can think of are "iodine was discovered during the Napoleonic Wars" and "contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as an iodine allergy"...but that's not about the element itself. Or am I thinking too hard? Double sharp (talk) 15:11, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

P.S. bromine is now at GAN. Maybe I can try to polish off the halogens and rare earths before the year is out?!? Only seven (Cl; Pr, Nd, Gd, Tb, Ho, Er) more to go!!! Double sharp (talk) 15:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Interesting. Let me digest...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:18, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

SR

Can you do source reviews for the noms requested here? 2A02:8108:1BF:AB8C:B4F8:189E:2510:3E98 (talk) 15:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Fairy gerygone

Hello! Your submission of Fairy gerygone at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Mary Kitson Clark DYK

Hi Casliber! I am confused. I have received a DYK on my talk page a few moments ago and yet the DYK its self is worded very differently to the ones that were given the okay during the reviewing process. Am I right in thinking that you were the one who changed the wording? There's a big between "a key text" and "a basic guide". Is there anyway this could be changed? Or is it now stuck in its watered down wording because it is on the main page? Thanks, Gaia Octavia Agrippa 00:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Scrap that. You are not to blame but I have found the post-promoted discussion about this hook else where. I shall take my complaint there. Gaia Octavia Agrippa 00:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Just sitting down for a sec between setting up for a Halloween party...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:48, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. Enjoy your party! Gaia Octavia Agrippa 01:06, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 44, 2016)

Street food vendors at a roadside market just outside of Hua Hin District, Thailand Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Street food Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Attic • Noise Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:08, 31 October 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Fornax

You do excellent job expanding the constellation articles, promoting many of them to good article and few even to featured article statuses. There are still constellation articles you didn't expand, including Fornax the furnace especially since I just got a new furnace in my home. PlanetStar 04:22, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

I know. I had an idea to go alphabetical....but maybe not. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:40, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/November 27, 2016

Hi Cas, I should get this one done today or tomorrow. - Dank (push to talk) 21:55, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

ok cool. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:47, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

What's your favorite synonym for "occurring"? I'm not a fan of the word. - Dank (push to talk) 18:25, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

WikiCup 2016 November newsletter: Final results

The final round of the 2016 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2016 WikiCup top three finalists:

• First Place - Cas Liber (submissions)
• Second Place - MPJ-DK (submissions)
• Third Place - Adam Cuerden (submissions)

In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:

• Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a three-way tie with themselves for two FAs in each of R2, R3, and R5).
• Good Article – MPJ-DK had 14 GAs promoted in R3.
• Featured List – Calvin999 (submissions) produced 2 FLs in R2
• Featured Pictures – Adam Cuerden restored 18 images to FP status in R4.
• Featured Portal – SSTflyer (submissions) produced the only FPO of the Cup in R2.
• Featured Topic – Cyclonebiskit (submissions) and Calvin were each responsible for one FT in R3 and R2, respectively.
• Good Topic – MPJ-DK created a GT with 9 GAs in R5.
• Did You Know – MPJ-DK put 53 DYKs on the main page in R4.
• In The News – Dharmadhyaksha (submissions) and Muboshgu (submissions), each with 5 ITN, both in R4.
• Good Article Review – MPJ-DK completed 61 GARs in R2.

Over the course of the 2016 WikiCup the following content was added to Misplaced Pages (only reporting on fixed value categories): 17 Featured Articles, 183 Good Articles, 8 Featured Lists, 87 Featured Pictures, 40 In The News, and 321 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Misplaced Pages.--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:52, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

We will open up a discussion for comments on process and scoring in a few days. The 2017 WikiCup is just around the corner! Many thanks from all the judges. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs · email), and Godot13 (talk · contribs · email)

Congratulations on your 2016 WikiCup victory!

Hi Casliber- I wanted to congratulate you on winning this year's WikiCup. You will get a trophy, but I am working with a graphics design friend to update and personalize the design, so (if all goes well) please give me until early December.--Godot13 (talk) 02:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Ok cool! thanks for running the competition! cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:33, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Woohoo congrats, my friend. This is an impressive achievement. Vanamonde (talk) 05:34, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup Greetings, all! We would like to announce the start of the 4th GA Cup, a competition that seeks to encourage the reviewing of Good article nominations! Thus far, there have been three GA Cups, which were successful in reaching our goals of significantly reducing the traditionally long queue at GAN, so we're doing it again. Currently, there are over 400 nominations listed. We hope that we can again make an impact this time. The 4th GA Cup will begin on November 1, 2016. Four rounds are currently scheduled (which will bring the competition to a close on February 28, 2017), but this may change based on participant numbers. We may take a break in December for the holidays, depending on the results of a poll of our participants taken shortly after the competition begins. The sign-up and submissions process will remain the same, as will the scoring. Sign-ups for the upcoming competition are currently open and will close on November 14, 2016. Everyone is welcome to join; new and old editors, so sign-up now! If you have any questions, take a look at the FAQ page and/or contact one of the judges. Cheers from 3family6, Figureskatingfan, Jaguar, MrWooHoo, and Zwerg Nase. We apologize for the delay in sending out this message until after the competition has started. Thank you to Krishna Chaitanya Velaga for aiding in getting this message out. To subscribe or unsubscribe to future GA Cup newsletters, please add or remove your name to our mailing list. If you are a participant, you will be on the mailing list no matter what as this is the easiest way to communicate between all participants.

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WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup Greetings, all! We would like to announce the start of the 4th GA Cup, a competition that seeks to encourage the reviewing of Good article nominations! Thus far, there have been three GA Cups, which were successful in reaching our goals of significantly reducing the traditionally long queue at GAN, so we're doing it again. Currently, there are over 400 nominations listed. We hope that we can again make an impact this time. The 4th GA Cup will begin on November 1, 2016. Four rounds are currently scheduled (which will bring the competition to a close on February 28, 2017), but this may change based on participant numbers. We may take a break in December for the holidays, depending on the results of a poll of our participants taken shortly after the competition begins. The sign-up and submissions process will remain the same, as will the scoring. Sign-ups for the upcoming competition are currently open and will close on November 14, 2016. Everyone is welcome to join; new and old editors, so sign-up now! If you have any questions, take a look at the FAQ page and/or contact one of the judges. Cheers from 3family6, Figureskatingfan, Jaguar, MrWooHoo, and Zwerg Nase. We apologize for the delay in sending out this message until after the competition has started. Thank you to Krishna Chaitanya Velaga for aiding in getting this message out. To subscribe or unsubscribe to future GA Cup newsletters, please add or remove your name to our mailing list. If you are a participant, you will be on the mailing list no matter what as this is the easiest way to communicate between all participants.

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Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Newsroom/Wikicup

By my count, you had eight FAs this competition. Does that agree with your count? Adam Cuerden 02:42, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

I didn't keep count. Sounds about right I guess...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:50, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 45, 2016)

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Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/Tamannaah filmography/archive1

Interested in doing a image and source review? Let me know. :) Regards, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:02, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Ping me once you get 3 supports and I'll take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Today, i've got the third support. Are you interested to take up? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 11:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Black grasswren

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Casliber, I'm confused about your November 1 approval of this one, because it's placed up among the original hooks and ALTs, not in the body of the article, where a new ALT4 had been placed just the day before. Where it's placed, it's actually superseded by earlier hooks; the DYKHousekeepingBot won't include this in the # Verified column of its table because of that. (It also looks like you're approving ALT3, though that isn't clear.)

If you meant to approve ALT4, can you please move your approval down below its proposal and comment, and also please strike all the hooks that haven't been approved? And if you meant to approve ALT3, can you still please move your approval down the bottom so it's in chronological order, and make clear which hook it's far and strike the ones you don't approve? (If it is ALT3 you've approved, can you please also check ALT4, since it has been proposed, and give it a thumbs up or down?) Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:56, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Tick down at bottom - see page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

White-winged fairy wren for TFA

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DYK nomination of Brown-necked parrot

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more element GANs

We now have strontium added to the list (the other ones are bromine, seaborgium, and bohrium – the last two are several months old by now). I was going to do chlorine next, which is on hold. The logical next step would be Ca and Mg. Double sharp (talk) 14:40, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

I addressed your comments on the GAN page for Sr. Double sharp (talk) 06:28, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

And now chlorine is at GAN! Double sharp (talk) 12:54, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Amanita ocreata for TFA

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Trouted

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DYK for Olearia tomentosa

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DYK for Olearia decurrens

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Hydrus for TFA

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Cool Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

* Thank you for another banksia, and the comment "this one I see as complete to the best of my ability..and the others aren't" ;)

* A date-releated article was nominated for that day, yes, too late, and I don't want to interfer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

WP:AE

Hey, you need to fix your question on AE. That's not a good ping. Bishonen | talk 13:46, 26 November 2016 (UTC).

aah yes. fixed now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:51, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

It looks ok on the page now, but the ping actually still won't work. You need to start a new line and sign again, see WP:PING, for it to do that. But I expect Doc will probably see it anyway. Bishonen | talk 15:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC).

(wakes up/rubs eyes) aaah. ok, I need a coffee....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:47, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Under the Bridge for TFA

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  • And speaking of TFA and hidden TFA pages ... if you're interested, see the top of User:Dank/Links, above the first link bar, for all the links I know of that are relevant to scheduling TFAs. - Dank (push to talk) 14:06, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
    • Wow! Thanks for that! More new stuff....after a decade.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:41, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 48, 2016)

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DYK for Rosy-throated longclaw

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DYK for Brachychiton megaphyllus

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Hydrus again

Does this work for you? I eyeballed this from star charts ... if it's not right, then 13° would probably work. - Dank (push to talk) 14:38, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Looks fine Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:13, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

FAC reviewing barnstar

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This week's article for improvement (week 49, 2016)

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Talk:Musca

Might want to check this: I found another Bayer misspelling, which kind of slighly contradicts the wording. Adam Cuerden 04:27, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

DYK for TV Corvi

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DYK for Brown-necked parrot

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Ficus rubiginosa for TFA

• Hi Cas. This is just a friendly note to let you know that the Ficus rubiginosa article has been scheduled as today's featured article for December 27, 2016. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/December 27, 2016. Thanks! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:56, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Heh, you beat me to it. I was going to nominate that soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:23, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Good to see it today. I don't want to load your talk with more Christmas greetings, look here for "sing peace" which doesn't expire ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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PR request

Hi, I'm planning to take 2003 Cricket World Cup Final to FAC. Sarastro1 has suggested me to invite a few non-cricket specialists to have a look at the article. Since, I'm working on this kind of an article for the first time, I'm quite lost. Any feedback would be much appreciated. TIA, —Vensatry _(talk) 12:54, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

ok I'll take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

No hurries, but just a reminder! —Vensatry _(talk) 12:58, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2016)

World plate tectonics (click on map for more details) Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Tectonics Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Helena Bergström • Hoax Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Template:Miss Julie

Can you userfy the old Template:Miss Julie.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Ok done. Moved to User:TonyTheTiger/Miss Julie. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:54, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

You don't know how nice that sounds...very humid here and we're heading into a few days above 40C in a row...sigh...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:00, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Peer review request for Joe Warbrick

Good evening Cas Liber. Hopefully you're enjoying a nice warm Australian summer. I initiated a PR for Joe Warbrick and was hoping you'd have some time to take a look. The Bot is down (since November!) so the request isn't even listed at WP:PR. The review can be found at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Joe Warbrick/archive1. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Shudde 10:53, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Ok, will take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:56, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Contests

Since you are interested in one or many of the contests and competitions that are hosted on Misplaced Pages (and since you host many of these yourself), I am here to share an idea to promote these. I have started refabricating the Misplaced Pages:Contests page to make it a common place to reach all the contests and challenges and then wish to push it ahead to be displayed on main page under "Other areas of Misplaced Pages". Another advantage of this would be to attract newbies as I have observed that quite a large number newbies signup in our various contests like WikiCup or 10000 Challenge series. Its another story that they don't continue or even actually participate; but maybe we will keep the Editor Retention out of it for now and focus on the advantage of newer editors coming in.
I know that Wikimedia Commons gave a permanent place to "Photo challenge" on their main page on top right and although I do not know who useful it has been, I think it should be given a try on en wiki too. I would need opinions and help of editors interested in this (you and your talk page stalkers are welcome). Please feel free to spread the word. Thanks. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:37, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

A little favour

This FAC has been open for a long time now, but is being held up for want of a source spot check. The article is Forensic chemistry, and I wondered if you could oblige? If you wanted to cast your eye over the whole article, I'm sure that a last pair of eyes wouldn't go amiss either. If not, no problem. Sarastro1 (talk) 11:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:40, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Red wattlebird

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Red wattlebird you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- J Milburn (talk) 22:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

4th GA Cup - Round 2

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup Greetings, GA Cup competitors! December 29th marked the end of the first round, after it was extended from its previously scheduled conclusion at the end of November. Because of the smaller pool of contestants this year, it was decided to keep sign-ups open throughout the month of December. This extension proved to be very helpful as we saw that more users signed up and completed many reviews. Krishna Chaitanya Velaga earned an impressive 402 points, followed by Cartoon network freak with a close 338 points. Shearonink who signed up after our extension was in third with 170 points. We had a rule clarification in Round 1 which was that many articles were being passed with blatant copyright violations and plagarism occurring in the articles. Thus, the judges have concluded that if an article is passed even if it has a copyright violation/plagarism, we will not provide points for that article as it wouldn't be considered a "complete review" under the scoring rules. In the end, 94 articles were reviewed by 14 users who will all advance to Round 2. The judges had planned on having 16 contestants advance but since only 14 did, we are changing the pools in this round. We will be having 2 pools of 3 and 2 pools of 4 in Round 2, with the top 2 in each pool advancing to Round 3 as well as the top participant ("9th place") of all remaining competitors. Round 2 will begin on January 1 at 00:00:00 UTC and will end on January 29 at 23:59:59 UTC. Information about Round 2 and the pools can be found here. Cheers from 3family6, Figureskatingfan, Jaguar, MrWooHoo, and Zwerg Nase! To subscribe or unsubscribe to future GA Cup newsletters, please add or remove your name to our mailing list. If you are a participant, you will be on the mailing list no matter what as this is the easiest way to communicate between all participants.

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This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2017)

Some of the Aeolian Islands Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Aeolian Islands Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Tectonics • Helena Bergström Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Happy New Year, Casliber!

Casliber,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.
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Agaricus brunneofibrillosus and Agaricus amicosus

Not sure if you're still working on fungi articles, but just making you aware of what I've been working on recently in case you have any additions:

Agaricus fuscofibrillosus is now a deprecated name for both the European and California populations, I've moved that article over to Agaricus brunneofibrillosus (since the article was largely about the California species) and rewrote it appropriately. I also ended up starting an article stub for Agaricus amicosus, an A. brunneofibrillosus relative found in the Rocky Mountains. If you have any contributions to either article, it's always welcome.

I only just found out about Sasata leaving. :-( I'm sure the above would have been just his thing. Peter G Werner (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

ok cool. yeah it is sad about Sasata, but I guess he had/has his priorities. Misplaced Pages don't pay the bills nor put food on the table...01:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

FAC reviewing barnstar

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Your GA nomination of Red wattlebird

The article Red wattlebird you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Red wattlebird for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- J Milburn (talk) 00:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Red wattlebird

Hi Cas, As you've included my name as a co-nominator, I cannot formerly provide my support. This is just to let you know that I think you've done a great job in improving the article. It reads well and seems very complete. I notice that it combines birds and flowers which are both areas in which you like to contribute. When you want to tackle another bird article, the iconic laughing kookaburra deserves attention. Do you also see them in your garden? - Aa77zz (talk) 10:48, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Kookaburras are pretty common though I don't see them in my new garden. I had a tall date palm in my old garden round the corner and some bird had chiseled out a hole at the top. Over about five years or so, rainbow lorikeets and kookaburras both nested there. Kookburra nestlings are really noisy and squawk at all times of day and night! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:58, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Corvus (constellation)

On 13 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Corvus (constellation), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the constellation Corvus was depicted as a raven as early as 1100 BCE in Babylonia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Corvus (constellation). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Corvus (constellation)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Arab Jews

Hi, I am writing regarding you putting ECP on Arab Jews. Firstly, I am not sure if protection was warranted at all, it just seems a content dispute and Jonney was trying to gain the upper hand by prohibiting an IP to edit. The IP was using the talk page, providing sources for his edits. Regardless of all that, you should have used regular/semi protection. I do not see a reason to apply ARBPIA to the whole article. Not every article about Jews needs to be added to the dispute and looking at the edits from the IP in question, I don't think they were ARBPIA related anyway. Sir Joseph 00:23, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

(Copied from Bishonen's talk page) "Upon further reading, it appears Jonney2000 is the disruptive one. The IP was adding valuable additions to the article and you erroneously claimed that Arab Jews only applies to modern Jews and not Jews from Arab lands. If you would read the article, you would see that is incorrect. The article itself mentions Arab Jews as being from Arabia and mentions that it's not modern. It does seem that you are pushing an agenda for some reason." I ask you to read the article and the talk page. There was no reason to protect this page to settle a content dispute. ECP is reserved for vandalism when all else fails, not as a first resort in dispute resolution. Sir Joseph 00:38, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Palestine-Israel_articles#Palestine-Israel_articles:_Arbitrator_views_and_discussion for some guidance. Sir Joseph 00:56, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok I will drop a note on the talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:35, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

That is not the proper procedure. As you saw from the Jews article, this article is not subject to ARBPIA and it's especially not subject to that just to win a dispute. Sir Joseph 03:57, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for White-plumed honeyeater

On 14 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article White-plumed honeyeater, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the white-plumed honeyeater has become more common in urban Sydney and Newcastle? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/White-plumed honeyeater. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2017)

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Crescent honeyeater scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Crescent honeyeater article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 30 January 2017. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/January 30, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Another good one, thank you! - We miss your conom, then, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Nanny Goat Hill

see Commons:File talk:Ozothamnus diosmifolius in bud.jpgSmiley.toerist (talk) 23:32, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK prep to queue move?

Casliber, none of the queues are filled, and the next one needs to be promoted in under eight hours. If you're around before then and the queues are still empty, a promotion of a prep or two would be very useful. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:12, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok on it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:45, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:57, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

western raven

In Australian raven article - corvus coronoides - there is acknowledgement of the western raven variation - perplexus - and I am about to upload some images of what I am sure are the perplexing sort on commons. I am hoping either you or one of your very well experienced biota driven talk page watchers might peruse an attempt at id'ing some western ravens (as I thought they had been called many years ago) - but hey its a busy world, we might all be in .. a day or so

my problem is that I might have been in perth (perplexus territory), canberra or hobart (ok I dont keep details to hand easily) and I need to clarify the slightest diff I know the perplexus has - and if there is any other clue (I am trying to contact a friend I would have been staying with in canberra, If I had been) as there seems so little apart from hackles... visually - according to the article - any thoughts ( like - 5 years ago? I am not 100% sure...) JarrahTree 15:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

the vegetation/ leaves and fruit suggests monterey cyprus - or something similar JarrahTree 15:41, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to have bothered - eastern variety - https://en.wikiversity.org/University_of_Canberra/RCC2011 solved... JarrahTree 15:45, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Damn...that would have been good...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:46, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

If we were sitting next to a few coffees in vienna, tea in perth, or beer in sydney, and had an hour or three you could have a retrospective overview of what involvement with wmau and wmf in five years has turned out to be... :) - all wishful unlikely possibilities in my current financial nothingness (locations that is, except for Perth) JarrahTree 01:03, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I sympathise about being geographically stuck at the present time....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Similar username

Were you aware of CapLiber? Cheers, Samsara (talk) 18:08, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

(a) no (b) thanks for the heads up. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Lemon-bellied flyrobin

On 22 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lemon-bellied flyrobin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the lemon-bellied flyrobin occasionally catches and eats insects that are one-sixth of its length? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lemon-bellied flyrobin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lemon-bellied flyrobin), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

DYK

There is a problem over at DYK in connection with the desert plant Catananche lutea which was created by User:Dwergenpaartje and nominated for DYK by me. The reviewer found some problems with the DYK nomination and the creator became upset, and deleted the article from Misplaced Pages. It was a good article which I think should be reinstated, whether or not it goes through DYK. Can you help? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:31, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 4, 2017)

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Thanks!

Hi Cas: Thanks so much for stepping in to sort out some of the nitpicks for the red-throated loon article. I suppose I really shouldn't have offered it up right before leaving for Guyana, but I was hoping it would be a relatively straightforward nomination. I have nearly a week before the second tour starts, so should have some time to concentrate on finishing my comments for red wattlebird. We had a great week here: a nearly-fledged Harpy Eagle chick, my first-ever Hoary-throated Spinetail, some knockout tanagers, dancing Guianan Cocks-of-the-Rock and much, much more (Giant Anteater! West Indian Manatee!) were among the treats on the first tour. Yahoo! MeegsC (talk) 02:02, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Wow, sounds great! Take any photos? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Yup. And managed to mistakenly delete most of them this evening. :/ I have lots I've been meaning to upload for months though. One of my new year's resolutions! MeegsC (talk) 04:49, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Sigh. Ah well. Wanna buff either of your other GAs now? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:50, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I've been working on chimney swift. Got a little more to do, but I think it's getting close. The other two GAs are pretty sparse, due to lack of available information; neither has been particularly well studied! MeegsC (talk) 12:39, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

C???!!!***

C Class? Why is this only a C; I spent a great deal of time and trouble on that page. America is hardly falling over itself trying to dodge good architecture. I woudl have thought at least a B; and it's not a stub either. Giano (talk) 18:27, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay then, I am certainly no expert on architecture and I knew it was more than a 'start' and given you've indicated it's pretty worked up I agree and have regarded it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:00, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

That's much better thank you. I thought you would see my way of thinking. Architecturally it could be better, but it's quite a pleasant grouping so that is some compensation. Giano (talk) 22:20, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Your RfC

Hi Cas Liber... Regarding the RfC you have started at Misplaced Pages talk:Conflict of interest#Investigating_COI policy, I think is an issue which necessarily precedes the questions you have posed, and that is the definition of "paid editor" / "COI editor". As the ArbCom statement recognises, the WMF essay allows for a very broad definition, dangerously broad in my view, and that influences what actions are reasonable in response. To me, the broader the definition taken, the stronger the protections needed for protecting editors from malicious attack. Let's suppose that a Scientologist (chosen solely as there is a relevant ArbCom case, as you know) suspects that Arbitrator X holds religious beliefs, and thus decides that X has edited WP with a COI by participating in that case, and so decides to identify and out X to prove the religious beliefs and thus the alleged COI. Such a situation is already imaginable, sadly, arbitrators having volunteered for positions which attract a lot of not nice people throwing excrement and seeing what sticks. (I'm not suggesting that is ok, nor that outing is justified, just recognising that you are targets.) With a definition of paid / COI editing broad enough to cover (even arguably) such a situation, the on-wiki restrictions needed to obviate the risk of misuse would need to be absolute prohibitions on most potentially-identifying posts. I wonder if you might want to add a preface to your RfC outlining the definitions on which the options are predicated, or to add a separate discussion to establish community consensus on the definitions (Wow, is that one an optimistic suggestion on something easy to achieve!)? EdChem (talk) 12:28, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Good point(s), from that perspective a narrower is better than broader definition, especially when one considers that the vast majority (if not all) editors will have some minor NPOV focus, depending on who they vote for, where they live/work/play. So it might be good to really narrow it down. I didn't know the best place to start talking but felt that we just needed to start somewhere to bring folks together and nut this out. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:59, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Magpie-larks in Melbourne

I spent several weeks in Melbourne over Christmas 2015-16 in my first and only visit to Australia. I was very struck by the number of large loud birds - very different from the skulking LBJs in the UK. A pair of magpie-larks patrolled a traffic roundabout very near to my home (in Albert Pk). -Aa77zz (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

My father in law would feed one and it would come inside the house. It would come and get his attention to be fed. Not sure who trained who...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:28, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Source review for Prince Romerson

Hello I was wondering if you have the time to do a quick source review for Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Prince Romerson/archive1 a relatively short article? Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:47, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

ok, if I get a chance today. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok. Whenever you find the time. Thanks! --KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2017)

DYK queues are empty again

Cas Liber, the queues are empty again, and the next promotion to the main page is set for 09:52 UTC; the next set also has a special occasion hook in it. I'm not sure when you will see this—by that time, Prep 6 may well have been promoted to Queue 6—but if not, it would be greatly appreciated if you could do the honors. (At this time, only Prep 6 is full, so even if Prep 1 does get filled before you see this, it would probably be a good idea to leave it for several hours so it can be scrutinized.) Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:29, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Nice job on the grey jay! Hopefully it can pass FAC! RileyBugz | Edits 23:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! ...yeah so do I....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Blue-winged parrot

On 1 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Blue-winged parrot, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the blue-winged parrot (pictured) is one of three species of parrot that make regular yearly migrations over a sea or ocean? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Blue-winged parrot. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Blue-winged parrot), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Administrators' newsletter - February 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Misplaced Pages talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
• Misplaced Pages:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
• Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.

Technical news

• When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
• Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Misplaced Pages, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
• The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries

• JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Misplaced Pages seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

4th GA Cup - Round 3

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016 GA Cup - Round 3 Hello, GA Cup competitors! Sunday saw the end of Round 2. Shearonink took out Round 2 with an amazing score of 499. In second place, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga earned an astounding 236 points, and in third place, Cartoon network freak received 136 points. Originally, we had plans for one wild card for 9th place, however it appears that both Chris troutman and J Milburn were tied for 9th place. Therefore, we have decided to have both advance to Round 3. In Round 2, 91 reviews were completed! At the beginning of this GA Cup, the longest wait was over 7 months; at the end of Round 2, the longest wait had decreased to a little over 6 months. It's clear that we continue to make a difference at GAN and throughout Misplaced Pages, something we should all be proud of. Thanks to all our competitors for helping to make the GA Cup a continued success, and for your part in helping other editors improve articles. We hope to see all remaining users fighting it out in Round 3 so we can keep decreasing the backlog. To qualify for the third round, contestants had to earn the two highest scores in each of the four pools in Round 2; plus, one wildcard. For Round 3, users were placed in 3 random pools of 3. To qualify for the Final of the 3rd Annual GA Cup, the top user in each pool will progress, and there will also be one wildcard. This means that the participant who comes in 4th place (all pools combined) will also move on. Round 3 has already started and will end on February 26 at 23:59:59 UTC. Information about Round 3 and the pools can be found here. Also, we'd like to announce the departure of judge Zwerg Nase. We thank him for all his hardwork and hope to see him back in the future. Good luck and have fun! Cheers from Figureskatingfan, 3family6, Jaguar, and MrWooHoo. To subscribe or unsubscribe to future GA Cup newsletter, please add or remove your name to our mailing list. If you are a participant still competing, you will be on the mailing list no matter what as this is the easiest way to communicate between all participants.

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Featured article mentoring

Hello, I found you on Mentoring for FAC and was wondering if you would be willing to give me some advice on how to bring the article Kelli Presley to FA-status. King regards, PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:27, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

I'll look later and jot some notes at the peer review. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:45, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate that. :D PanagiotisZois (talk) 15:39, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK queues empty again

Cas Liber, if you could promote the next prep, that would be great. It needs to be done by about 12:00 for it not to be late, but assuming no one has done it before you see this, whenever you can get to it is the key. Thanks as always. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:10, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

We still have about five hours, but if you happen to see this, Prep 6 hasn't yet been promoted to Queue 6, and it's approaching 12:00 UTC, it would be great if you could do the promotion. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:54, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

ok Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK nom of The Vinh Wiretap.

Hello,

I have returned to WP after an extended absence, and have fallen afoul of new requirements for DYK nominations. I have attempted to list The Vinh wiretap, to no avail. Help from an experienced editor is needed, and I am begging you (though not quite on bended knee)(yet).

Georgejdorner (talk) 20:26, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:43, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

The Vinh Wiretap nomination was approved for April Fool's Day, but is not scheduled to run, and I can't locate it. What happened?Georgejdorner (talk) 16:03, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't know, as I have been busy and had very limited time recently. Ask at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#April_Fool.27s_Day_type_of_humor Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:43, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

RfC on "No paid editing for Admins" at WT:COI

I've relisted an RfC that was run at WT:Admin in Sept. 2015. It is at Misplaced Pages talk:Conflict of interest#Concrete proposal 3 as there are a number of similar proposals going on at the same place. Better to keep them together. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 04:27, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Sigh. Yep, I started this one prematurely.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:31, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2017)

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DYK for Emotional lability

On 7 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Emotional lability, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that emotional lability can be seen in conditions such as personality disorder, bipolar disorder, ADHD, and alcohol intoxication, or after a stroke? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Emotional lability. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Emotional lability), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Siege of Arrah

Thanks for the source spot check on this FAC. However, I'd had a quick look before you did your spot-check (looking at different parts to you), and found quite a few issues early in the article. I've opposed for the moment, but as I said at the FAC, this is probably fixable as your checks were fine. (It's also possible I'm being stupid.) Sarastro1 (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

@Sarastro1: I think it is worth looking into. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:44, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

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Banksia attenuata scheduled for TFA

Hi Cas, this is to let you know that your Banksia attenuata article has been scheduled as today's featured article for February 28, 2017. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/February 28, 2017, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:23, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

FAC

May I interest you in this FAC of a long biography? – FrB.TG (talk) 13:26, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

@FrB.TG: I will take a look later today. I also have one that is attracting little interest (Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Corvus (constellation)/archive1) and it would be good if someone unfamiliar with astronomy looks at it for accessibility etc. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Lagden's bushshrike

I added a comment which might be of interest/concern. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

FA

I saw your UP. Very good work on biological articles! --OJJ (talk) 14:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Request for peer review

of Miley Cyrus please.--Shane Cyrus (talk) 06:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Frederici Honores

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Possible DYK prep to queue promotion?

Cas Liber, I just noticed you posting at WT:DYK, so I was wondering whether you might have time to do a prep to queue promotion. We're fewer than nine hours away from the next one, and the queues are all empty. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:52, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:55, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

latest

my edit - needs a block playing with warnings like... JarrahTree 13:16, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

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History of NCFC

You are a wonder. Thank you. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Now we just have to renominate for TFA....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:01, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

White-throated honeyeater DYK

Per a suggestion in this DYK nom, I moved this to April Fool's holding. If it's not ok, I can change it back. HalfGig talk 03:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

HalfGig that looks great. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/White-throated honeyeater

Cas Liber, this nomination has just been moved (or copied) to the April Fool's Day page. If you don't want this to be an April Fool's hook, you should probably post same to the nomination and delete it from the AF page. I thought you'd want to know. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:36, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Oops. Hadn't noticed the above. Never mind. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:37, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Gigantonycteris nosferatu

Hi Cas: Here's another hoax species article created by the same editor: Gigantonycteris nosferatu. Again, nothing at all on the internet except Misplaced Pages and mirror sites. This one's been around almost a month. MeegsC (talk) 13:18, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

There isn't a single hit on the genus Gigantonycteris in JSTOR. HalfGig talk 13:25, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Geggel, Laura Senior Writer (June 19, 2015). "Giant 'Walking Bat' Once Prowled Rainforest Floors". Live Science. Just sayin FWIW. I was not finding much at all, and I looked at both Google and Bing. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:30, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I see no mention of a genus of this name there? FunkMonk (talk) 13:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

No there isn't. In fact it says the binomial is Mystacina miocenalis HalfGig talk 13:45, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

"Miocene Fossils Reveal Ancient Roots for New Zealand's Endemic Mystacina (Chiroptera) and Its Rainforest Habitat". PLoS ONE. 10 (6): e0128871. 2015. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0128871. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link) A more scholarly journal.

I hope our malefactor got his just reward? Fraudulent articles are unpardonable. IMO. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:30, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Please move Erythranthe aurantiacus

Erythranthe aurantiacus needs moved to Diplacus aurantiacus. @Sminthopsis84: updated some of the text but we can't move it because a redirect is in place. Can someone move this and overwrite the redirect? We can finish fixing up the article. The reason for this is a taxonomy change that occurred in 2012 per DNA studies. We've been working on genus Erythranthe for a few weeks now. Thank you. HalfGig talk 23:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Cas, you inadvertently moved it to "Diplacus aurantiacus.". I've moved it again to the correct Diplacus aurantiacus and corrected the 'fixes' to double redirects made by bots. So could you now delete Diplacus aurantiacus. please? Peter coxhead (talk) 10:06, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks all. Same problem with Erythranthe aridus. Sorry I didn't see this one earlier. HalfGig talk 11:24, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:46, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much. A few last things,

• • I was a dummy and created Diplacus aridus.. Can you whack that one too?
  • And I found a third: Erythranthe clevelandii needs to go to Diplacus clevelandii. I found that one by looking at the Diplacus category and it does seem to be the last one there.
  • Then I checked the Erythranthe category and found these...
  • Erythranthe mohavensis needs to go back to Mimulus mohavensis
  • Erythranthe angustatus needs to go back to Mimulus angustatus
  • Erythranthe bolanderi needs to go back to Mimulus bolanderi
    • There appears to be about 10 more fixes in the Category:Erythranthe. I hate to ask you to fix them all. This all started with a major restructuring of Mimulus by botanists and there has been much debate in the botanical community about what to do with Diplacus. This all was exacerbated by the fact that I misread a journal article on this and then moved some articles when I shouldn't have. For that I am truly sorry and deeply apologize. I'd fix these moves myself but I can't. Again, I deeply apologize. HalfGig talk 13:36, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

All moved. Go for your life. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:08, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, kindness, and understanding. I feel horrible about goofing and causing others extra work. FYI, I created the new article Erythranthe and am using the fairly recent article listing here: Erythranthe#Species_alphabetically as my guide to sort this all out. If anyone cares to double check things, feel free. I have to go somewhere right now but should get back to this soon. Thank you again. HalfGig talk 14:20, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

I hope this is the last set:

• • Erythranthe congdonii needs to go back to Mimulus congdonii
  • Erythranthe cusickii needs to go back to Mimulus cusickii
  • Erythranthe douglasii needs to go back to Mimulus douglasii
  • Erythranthe evanescens needs to go back to Mimulus evanescens
  • Erythranthe nudatus needs to go back to Mimulus nudatus
  • Erythranthe pictus needs to go back to Mimulus pictus
  • Erythranthe pygmaeus needs to go back to Mimulus pygmaeus
  • Erythranthe rattanii needs to go back to Mimulus rattanii
  • Erythranthe rupicola needs to go back to Diplacus rupicola
  • Erythranthe torreyi needs to go back to Mimulus torreyi
  • Erythranthe viscidus needs to go back to Mimulus viscidus

Thank you. HalfGig talk 21:09, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

That should do it for now. Yea!! Rupicola and a few others are D., but it let me do those myself. This is as good as we can make it with current taxo. In fact, right now wiki is more up to date that many online sources. Thanks again to you and Sminthopsis84 ! HalfGig talk 22:53, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Precious five years!

Precious

Five years!

PumpkinSky said so, and I was the messager, as now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for today's Banksia attenuata! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Btw, I have a FAC open that might profit from fresh eyes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Relief: that one was promoted yesterday. - Today: five years precious from me, - took me a few days longer in 2012, and I liked to read our conversation again. Music on the Main page to celebrate ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

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Cas Liber, I wasn't sure whether you'd seen that Gerda Arendt had responded to your DYK review here. Have the issues you were concerned about been addressed? BlueMoonset (talk) 17:11, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Striated thornbill

On 21 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Striated thornbill, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the striated thornbill (pictured) often hangs upside-down while foraging? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Striated thornbill. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Striated thornbill), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Could you close ...

Hello Casliber,

May I ask you to close Wikipedia_talk:Conflict_of_interest#Concrete_proposal_1? This is part of the discussion you started about WMF legal's essay of about a month ago. Given that you were looking for community input, and that the input is clear (!votes 26 in favor (81%), 6 against) and that 3 weeks have passed, I think it would do a lot to bring us back together if you would close it. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:27, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Smallbones, it's a pretty big change and one would want to make sure consensus is clear from a broad range of folks. If it were closed now, someone could (rightly) complain it wasn't open for a month. Furthermore only 29 people have voted, which others might argue is a small sample. I've been pretty busy - can you please try to drum up some more circulation over the next seven days by posting some neutrally-worded alerts here and there to see if we get some more voices? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Grey jay

On 22 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Grey jay, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the grey jay builds its nests in late winter, while the forest is still deep in snow? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grey jay. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Grey jay), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Eta Carinae for TFA

Hi Cas. This is just a friendly note to let you know that the Eta Carinae article, which you nominated at FAC, has been scheduled as today's featured article for March 12, 2017. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/March 12, 2017. Thanks! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Well done. I did notice you'd nominated this a while back, but didn't realise it would be up so soon. Lithopsian (talk) 14:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Lithopsian the March date was too good to pass up....and there are a lack of astronomy articles on the mainpage. Do you feel like really buffing another star? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

I've pimped up a few star articles to B or C level, but I nothing big has really grabbed me. Eta Carinae was a one-off I think, one of the most heavily-studied objects in the sky and one that I was interested in, but it barely had a stub of an article. I have greatly expanded Wolf-Rayet star but was never quite happy with it and didn't know what else it needed. Lithopsian (talk) 14:57, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I find it interesting how some articles just 'come' together okay and others just don't. Certainly WR star is a good brad article to work on. I am interested so will read and leave some notes on the talkpage to see if it can be 'unblocked' Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Lagden's bushshrike

On 24 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lagden's bushshrike, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the call of Lagden's bushshrike has been likened to hoop hoop or toot toot? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lagden's bushshrike. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lagden's bushshrike), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

FAC

Hello! I just wanted to know, what articles do you plan to take next to FAC after your current one is over? It's just so I can help out a bit with some copyediting and possibly other things. Thanks! RileyBugz | _Edits 23:40, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

I have a bunch of HANZAB notes on scarlet myzomela, which is the one that lives in my neighbourhood. I have also buffed Carnaby's black cockatoo quite a bit....I find that some just come together and some don't. I was doing orange-bellied parrot but got a bit blocked on it. Black-breasted buttonquail, Pied butcherbird, Gilbert's honeyeater and Banded stilt I have the HANZAB notes on as well. I feel a bit hot and cold on all of them.

I have also been looking at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Birds/Showcase as I like the idea of pushing more of those over the FA finish line (especially if the orginal editor as retired). I have been pretty busy IRL so these ones often take less time to buff to FA standard if I am pressed for time. Why not have a look across all these and let me know which one you think is closest to FA standard and has 'come together' nicely. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Looking at what you put out in the first paragraph, I think that the Carnaby's black cockatoo is probably the closest; it really just needs some reorganization and maybe a few other things. The next closest is probably the orange-bellied parrot. After that, it gets to where you will probably add whole sections. As for the showcase, I haven't looked over it. I will do some copyediting on the two that I mentioned, and I can do some on any others. RileyBugz | _Edits 03:10, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Alright then, Carnaby's black cockatoo will be next. Years ago I buffed yellow-tailed black cockatoo (which I see flying over my place a lot, but they are very shy) and red-tailed black cockatoo for FA-hood, so there is a srot of template there. I have a feeling there is more material for orange-bellied parrot to add. black honeyeater looks in good shape too. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:13, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Got it, I am already starting to do some reorganizing and such. Let's do this! RileyBugz | _Edits 03:30, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Are you going to be using Oxford commas in the article? Just so we can coordinate this. RileyBugz | _Edits 17:49, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Err...sure, let's do Oxford commas...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:18, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

@RileyBugz: do you wanna be a co-nom on this, or are you happy just to tinker a bit and offer comments at FAC? Either is fine by me. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:41, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I think that it would be best if I was a co-nom—more articles would be able to be nominated that way. Collaboration might be another way to keep production at its current level. Basically, yeah, I would like to be a co-nom. RileyBugz | _Edits 17:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Since you have done some work on the golden swallow, do you want to try and go for FA on it with me? RileyBugz | _Edits 15:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@RileyBugz: Alrighty. I'll take another look today. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:42, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Is it ok if I put it up at FAC with you as a co-nom? RileyBugz | _Edits 22:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I just wanted to do one last look-over. Give me 24 hours but then a co-nom sure. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Got it! RileyBugz | _Edits 22:29, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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Banksia attenuata

Congratulations on your featured article Banksia attenuata appearing on the main page today. I always enjoy reading your articles. I've gotten as far as the Banksia attenuata#Taxonomy section, and I came across this sentence:

• George reviewed the variation in form in the species, and felt that the tree and shrub forms differed only in size and hence were not distinct enough to represent separate taxa.

I wondered who "George" was. I don't think it was King George, but upon searching for someone with that name, besides King George (in "King George Sound"), I did not find anyone with that name except for Alex George two paragraphs later. If that is the George that is meant, don't you want to give his full name at the first mention?  – Corinne (talk) 00:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you and Wehwalt produce primo articles. Great photo on this B. attenuata article too. HalfGig talk 01:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

@Corinne: it is Alex George - I must have missed the first mention of his name. Rejigged now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:07, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Difficulty of closing Misplaced Pages talk:Conflict of interest#Investigating COI policy

The issue you raised is serious, and I see two milieus and one concrete proposal passing. The rest may not reach the consensus. However, I won't be able to aide the closure. Lately, I've seen some discussions requiring more than one closer to provide a lengthy, summarizing rationale, like the WP:PC2016. Does this discussion need just one closer or more? --George Ho (talk) 13:20, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I'd go for a 3-person close. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:38, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Is relisting necessary? Seems that the volunteers are still working on the closure. --George Ho (talk) 06:30, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

I now regret the structuring of it, so would be wary of just relisting it. I have been busy with not enough mental stamina to devote to this currently..Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:33, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Hmm.... you can withdraw some separate milieux and proposals that receive major opposition, while you leave the rest open. Or I can close some of those without a rationale. Thoughts? --George Ho (talk) 18:40, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

I am happy for you to do that - whatever it takes to get something workable out of the pages. I will be pretty busy over the next few days. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

March 2017 WikiCup newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. It would have been 5 points, but when a late entrant was permitted to join the contest in February, a promise was made that his inclusion would not result in the exclusion of any other competitor. To achieve this, the six entrants that had the lowest positive score of 4 points have been added to the 64 people who otherwise would have qualified. As a result, some of the groups have nine contestants rather than eight. Our top four scorers in round 1 were:

• Cas Liber, last year's winner, led the field with two featured articles on birds and a total score of 674.
• Iry-Hor, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with a featured article, a good article and a tally of 282 bonus points for a score of 517. All these points came from the article Nyuserre Ini, an Ancient Egyptian pharaoh,
• 1989, another WikiCup newcomer, was in joint third place at 240. 1989 has claimed points for two featured lists and one good article relating to anime and comedy series, all of which were awarded bonus points.
• Peacemaker67 shared third place with five good articles and thirteen good article reviews, mostly on naval vessels. He is also new to the competition.

The largest number of DYKs have been submitted by Vivvt and The C of E, who each claimed for seven, and MBlaze Lightning achieved eight articles at ITN. Carbrera and Peacemaker67 each claimed for five GAs and Krishna Chaitanya Velaga was well out in front for GARs, having reviewed 32. No featured pictures, featured topics or good topics yet, but we have achieved three featured articles and a splendid total of fifty good articles.

So, on to the second round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Paludititan

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This week's article for improvement (week 10, 2017)

FAC Palais Rohan

Hello Cas, I'd like to have your opinion on what I shall do now: maintain the candidacy (Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Palais Rohan, Strasbourg/archive1) or retire it? In any case, I could still expand the article by some sentences, but on the other hand, and as I alluded to in the presentation, I don't want to put too much detail into it − otherwise, I will end up quoting the book by Étienne Martin from the first page to the last! Do you think I should give up for now and come back in a while with a longer version? It won't be that much longer, that's for sure! Thank you, --Edelseider (talk) 09:33, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Maintain it. Take a deep breath and carry on. Just maybe comment that you've found it a bit heavy going but really want to end up on good terms. A thorough reviewer is a blessing about 95% of the time. For a laugh, take a look at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Redback spider/archive1. Now that was an exercise in endurance.

I am a bit of a slob and not big on detail. Once you do a couple of these you get the hang of it much better. It's also about making these articles look schmick as well - like a proper reference. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:52, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Again, thank you. I'll just wait, then. Have a nice day (or night; you are definitely in another time zone than me) --Edelseider (talk) 09:59, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

4th GA Cup - The Final

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016 GA Cup - Final Hello, GA Cup competitors! Sunday, February 26 saw the end of Round 3. Shearonink finished in first with 616 points, which is more than the point totals for all the other competitors combined! In second place, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga earned an impressive 152 points, followed by Sturmvogel_66 in third with 111 points. Chris troutman and Kees08 each received a wild-card and were able to advance to the Final Round. There was a major error on the part of the judges, and initially, 8 users were advanced instead of 5. This has been corrected, and we sincerely apologize for this confusion. In Round 3, 71 reviews were completed! At the beginning of this GA Cup, the longest wait was over 7 months; at the end of Round 3, the longest wait is still holding steady at a little over 6 months, the same as for the previous round. By the end of all three Rounds, the total number of nominations increased slightly - this suggests that users are more willing to nominate, knowing that their articles will be reviewed. We hope to see all remaining users fighting it out in the Final so we can keep tackling the backlog. In the Final Round, the user with the highest score will be the winner. The Final has already started and will end on March 31st at 23:59:59 UTC. Information about Finals and the pools can be found here. Good luck and have fun! Cheers from Figureskatingfan, 3family6, Jaguar, and MrWooHoo. To subscribe or unsubscribe to future GA Cup newsletters, please add or remove your name to our mailing list. If you are a participant still competing, you will be on the mailing list no matter what as this is the easiest way to communicate between all participants.

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FAC William Pūnohu White

Hello, I don't know if you came across Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/William Pūnohu White/archive1. It was closed today because of no traffic and only 1 review after a month. The quality of the article is FAC material in my opinion. I did not ask anybody (except two users) in the initial run to review it since I was trusting that it will receive reviews. Now I am asking a couple of people here and there to see if there is enough interest to renominate it again as recommended by the closing admin. I will only go ahead and renominate it once I find a few people who wants to give it a review. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks either way.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:32, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

I am sorry to hear that. I have been busier than usual recently but will take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:46, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Here is the second nomination Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/William Pūnohu White/archive2. Look at it when you can. Thank you.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 11, 2017)

Tandoori chicken Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Tandoori chicken Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Plastic explosive • Grey market Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:19, 13 March 2017 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Naruto

Hi. I would like to ask you whether or not the article linked above I've been working on is suitable for FA. It had a peer review, and I made it to GA. I ask because I was planing on nominating it after the Naruto Uzumaki FAC is finished. MCMLXXXIX 15:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@1989: ok hang on. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks for your changes and suggestions. When you get the chance, could you give a prose review for Naruto Uzumaki? It already happened, but the coordinator wants someone more experienced to do it. If you can't, please reply. Thanks. MCMLXXXIX 06:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Nevermind, it was re-reviewed. MCMLXXXIX 15:26, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
    • The coordinator commented that one sentence about the prose is not good enough. When you get the chance, could you review the prose for Naruto Uzumaki? If you can't, let me know. Thanks. MCMLXXXIX 04:08, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
      • @MCMLXXXIX: am getting on a plane so will be incommunicado for several hours. Will look later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:42, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
        • ok. 1989 21:13, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Potential DYK material

Greetings. I know you are active at DYK, and I came upon a new article, which you might want to look at as a potential DYK tidbit. It's Vadim Antonov. I don't do much at DYK, and won't have time to figure out the hook, etc. before the time constraint runs out. Anyway, I thought it was a fascinating bit of cold war history. Sorry to bother you. Onel5969 01:34, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Onel5969: it needs to be about 30% longer to be eligible. Any more info to add? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:33, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, it's not my article. I only came across it at the NPP feed. I would have suggested the article's creator take it to DYK, but their only edits are to that article, so I tried to steer it to someone more active. Thanks for taking the time to check it out though. Take it easy. Onel5969 11:13, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 12, 2017)

The long-legged buzzard is an example of a bird of prey. Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Bird of prey Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Tandoori chicken • Plastic explosive Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:08, 20 March 2017 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Current discussion of Quality assessment at Village Pump

There is a discussion at Village Pump (policy) that assessment of WP:Quality assessment for A-Class, B-Class, C-Class and Start-Stub articles is long antiquated and of limited valued for future purposes of Misplaced Pages. As you are involved in the day-to-day listing and de-listing of articles from these classes to peer review status possibly you could take a glance at the discussion of comments there . ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:52, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Singora

Hi. If you need further help with the Covent Garden article, please let me know.

I came across this rather jolly little piece on the internet. It concerns a couple of sordid individuals you may be aware of. Singora (talk) 03:26, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

I've always gotten on well with Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs), and did get some idea of his side of the episode with McCann, however have been really busy with RL things so can't speak authoritatively on that. I just with everyone would bury the goddamn hatchet really. I'll make sure we follow through with your suggestions and then ping you for a look later. Your ability to critically assess prose and lick glitches and clumsy bits significantly exceeds mine...and we really need good prose on a lot of these. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 13, 2017)

The Czech philosopher Radovan Richta (1924–1983) originated the theory of technological evolution. Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Technological evolution Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Bird of prey • Tandoori chicken Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot 00:08, 27 March 2017 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Sysop Birthday!

Clever/thanks! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:05, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Ostrich

Cas......I've been using JimFBleak a lot for renaming articles, so I thought I'd try you to move the work around, so to speak.....We should rename the Ostrich article to common ostrich. Common ostrich is the IOC name, and since Somali Ostrich has been elevated to species, ostrich needs to be differentiated. It would be a similar move to common warthog when desert warthog was elevated. I'll disambig at the top of the page to link ostrich to common ostrich once the article is renamed. Common ostrich is locked, so I'm wondering if you can delete and move? I'm not an admin......Pvmoutside (talk)

DYK for White-throated honeyeater

On 1 April 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article White-throated honeyeater, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the white-throated honeyeater (pictured) used to be gay, but isn't any more? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/White-throated honeyeater. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, White-throated honeyeater), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.