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Any idea why the wikilink to the French article is not working please?Zigzig20s (talk) 10:09, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I've done it for you, but search for interlanguage links and how to enter them in Wikidata. Stephen

Administrators' newsletter - February 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.

Administrator changes

NinjaRobotPirate • Schwede66 • K6ka • Ealdgyth • Ferret • Cyberpower678 • Mz7 • Primefac • Dodger67

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• A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Misplaced Pages talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
• Misplaced Pages:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
• Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.

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• When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
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• The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries

• JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Misplaced Pages seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

13:37, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Waitangi Day

In reference to your revert of the tag at this article. On 5 February, a user added the tag. The user was well aware that the addition of such tags results in the event not appearing in 'On this day...' on the Main Page, because he told another editor that on his Talk page. By the time I noticed that Waitangi Day was not appearing in 'On this day...' and complained and learned that the tag blocks such articles, Waitangi Day was nearly over but I removed the tag in an attempt to get Waitangi Day to appear. I'm forced to give the editor the benefit of the doubt, but the timing (one day before the event) and his knowledge that the tag blocks appearance, might indicate that he did it deliberately. Akld guy (talk) 23:42, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Howcheng is responsible for that section of the main page and made a good judgement that the quality was not sufficient. Improve the article for next year. Stephen 23:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Howcheng has a schedule of events on his page and appears to upload them to 'On this day...'. It's my belief that he reviewed the upcoming event Waitangi Day, decided that it lacked references, and deliberately blocked it from appearing there. A very dirty trick, one day before the event, especially when very few editors know that the event can be blocked in that way. Despicable. Nothing to do with you, but background for what happened. Akld guy (talk) 00:21, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Akld guy actually, if you care to take a look at the history of the WP:ERRORS page over the past few weeks, and you'll see that, on average, one or two articles per day that are listed to appear at OTD are pulled at the last minute (i.e. the day before) over quality concerns, and many are tagged for improvement. This isn't "a very dirty trick", indeed this is all about maintaining the integrity of the main page. If you really are interested in this, improve the article so it can be included next year, and quit throwing baseless bad faith accusations around. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:56, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

What color is a magpie?

Thank you for fixing that Stephen; you're a saint! 173.73.172.102 (talk) 02:57, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Lincoln Memorial

If you have problems with specific entries in the popcult section, please discuss them on the article's talk page, where I and other editors can express our opinions. Unlike you, I have a very long history with this article, , and therefore have a strong interest in its content. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:48, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

No item has a reference. Please read WP:Verifiable. Stephen 00:22, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

As a media item, every single item references itself, and is therefore totally verifiable. As I have to do is look at the book, or the film, or the video game and there is the content mentioned. Unless you are willing to go throughout Misplaced Pages and tag every single "Plot" section in every film and novel article as being unreferenced -- because they're also based entirely on the media item in question -- I suggest you stop tagging this section. Furthermore, as an admin, you should be well aware that when an edit is disputed by another editor, the next step is discusssion on the article talk page, not to revert. Well, there's a discussion there now, but you haven't contributed to it. Please act like an admin and follow the standard operatoing procedures that all editors are expected to comply with. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Before you restore the unnecessary "unreferenced" tag for the third time, I request that you read the talk page, and contribute to the discussion there. Thank you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:33, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Kasaï-Central clashes (2016–present)

Very disappointing. I won't bother with Ongoing nominations any more.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:43, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Just make sure they're in the mainstream press, and that the article is getting regularly updated with significant events and you'll be set. Or look for a major event as a blurb and suggest it moves to ongoing rather than fall off the bottom. Stephen 23:46, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, I think the main problem may be, not so much Misplaced Pages or ITN, but the corporate media in the West. They totally under-report African news. I first heard about it while watching the papal angelus, as many millions of people must have, but The New York Times only did one article about it. These people are likely to be dehumanized as "refugees" in the next few months--the whole process is very obscurantist. I do think there is some regular media coverage, which is what User:Jayron32 was asking for, but not enough in high-circulation Western/US newspapers.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:56, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

You're correct about Western media coverage of Africa; there's almost a base level of insurrection that's expected and only reported when it exceeds a higher threshold. The Catholic infrastructure was better at escalating and reporting on the troubles in this case. Stephen 02:21, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

African sources are fine. There is no preference against you updating the article using African sources. Do that. I will not stop you. --Jayron32 13:18, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Helen Rollason

In answer to your question I did a Google image search before I reverted you, and there isn't a lot. At least that isn't owned by the BBC or some other outlet. That would suggest the chances of getting another one are very slim, and it's not like there are ever going to be any new ones. Have you checked yourself? This is Paul (talk) 22:17, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I bet if someone could actually be bothered to contact the charity, they'd be able to get an image released via OTRS and a decent one at that. But most people can't be bothered. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:22, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

The image appears to have been sourced from the charity (although whether anyone asked them of if that's the original source is unclear). Happy to send them an email and see if they respond. Is there a template letter for making such requests? This is Paul (talk) 22:29, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

A polite, respectful, personal letter would do better than a form letter in my opinion. Stephen 22:45, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

ok, I'll put one together tomorrow. This is Paul (talk) 22:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I've already done it. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2017).

Administrator changes

Amortias • Deckiller • BU Rob13

Ronnotel • Islander • Chamal N • Isomorphic • Keeper76 • Lord Voldemort • Shereth • Bdesham • Pjacobi

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• A recent RfC has redefined how articles on schools are evaluated at AfD. Specifically, secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist.
• AfDs that receive little participation should now be closed like an expired proposed deletion, following a deletion process RfC.
• Defender, HakanIST, Matiia and Sjoerddebruin are our newest stewards, following the 2017 steward elections.
• The 2017 appointees for the Ombudsman commission are Góngora, Krd, Lankiveil, Richwales and Vogone. They will serve for approximately 1 year.

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• A recent query shows that only 16% of administrators on the English Misplaced Pages have enabled two-factor authentication. If you haven't already enabled it please consider doing so.
• Cookie blocks should be deployed to the English Misplaced Pages soon. This will extend the current autoblock system by setting a cookie for each block, which will then autoblock the user after they switch accounts under a new IP.
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File:Reg Grundy 20 September 2010.jpg

The FFD discussion resulted in "no consensus". May you please reinsert the file into Reg Grundy? --George Ho (talk) 19:03, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Also, if you wish to re-challenge the use of this image, please use FFD process instead. George Ho (talk) 19:06, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

No, just because no-one has bothered to try and get a free use image, does not mean that we can use a copyrighted image as the main image in a article. An image deletion discussion is not the same as an image usage discussion. Stephen 23:56, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate your good-faith removals of copyright images of recently deceased people. However, I don't see how ignoring the FFD results and removing the image would produce good results. Why else not revert the removal and try another FFD nomination per WP:CCC? If the newer consensus agrees with the deletion, I would abide to that. However, the status quo should be retained for now, i.e. reinserting the image back and abiding to the results. By the way, I created a GrantIdea page, m:Grants:IdeaLab/In memoria and commemorations, about incubating a project idea to obtain more images of deceased persons. There is another, m:Grants:IdeaLab/images of living people, created by someone else. George Ho (talk) 00:06, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Have you made any attempt to get an image of Grundy released via OTRS or similar? Stephen 01:03, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I contacted separate photographers of this photo and that photo recently. I'm awaiting their responses. George Ho (talk) 01:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

That's great. You may want to write a respectful message to his widow, Joy Chambers, who has a website and contact form, and ask if she would release a photo of her late husband. Stephen 01:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Contacted her. I also told them all that they may upload the photos to Commons themselves if they wish to. George Ho (talk) 02:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I see that you reverted Aspects's reinsertion of the image. Meanwhile, I've not received one response from any of them. Also, there is a huge backlog in the OTRS queue, addressed at c:COM:Village pump#Backlog in permissions-commons OTRS queue and then m:Wikimedia Forum#Backlogging in OTRS. May you revert your removal back to the status quo for now? --George Ho (talk) 20:01, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

We should exhaust all avenues before using a copyrighted image, and not let a copyrighted image act as a placeholder. That image of Grundy can only be used in the section referring to the interview in any case. Stephen 20:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I received an email from an agent of Joy Chambers. Her agent told me that "she will not be able to be involved with" Commons. I could ask her a permission to use a photo, but the OTRS still suffers from backlogging. I'm still awaiting response from other photographers. --George Ho (talk) 03:58, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Asking the general public to create an account and upload an image with the appropriate release is never going to happen. You would be better to ask for a picture as an attachment with permission to use it, which can then be sent to OTRS. Our backlogged queues are no excuse to allow copyrighted images to be used. Stephen 04:07, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I've not received responses from any of the photographers. How long is a response typically? George Ho (talk) 05:12, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Most people's lives don't revolve around email, and Misplaced Pages even less so. I'd give it a month before a polite follow up. Again, don't expect anyone to understand uploading at Commons. Stephen 09:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about the "ANI" thing. I am just worried about the orphaned image; I let my emotions get the best of me. I'll say this to make up to you. Per Misplaced Pages:Non-U.S. copyrights, English Misplaced Pages is governed by US laws, not any other. You can also read Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files/2015 November 10#File:Australian Aboriginal Flag.svg. In other words, En.wiki is not bound by UK or Australian law. Ask any admin or copyright expert. George Ho (talk) 05:39, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

That ruling is irrelevant as the flag is non-copyrightable geometric shapes, Just have patience that someone will provide a free image. There is no time limit. Stephen 05:57, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

I have added back the image to the article since it is an acceptable fair use image of a deceased person. Per WP:BRD, after reverted the image should have gone to WP:FFD, especially since a disputed fair use was rejected and a previous FFD was closed as no consensus. Just because the process of finding a free image is ongoing does not mean that an acceptable fair use image of a deceased person should be removed because in this case the process has been going on for ten months and an orphaned fair use image gets deleted in one week.

I also have added back the image, File:Helen Rollason in approximately 1993.jpg, back to Helen Rollason as also being an acceptable fair use image of a deceased person that was removed, reverted by User:This is Paul, removed again, reverted by me and removed a third time. In this case, the person has been dead for seventeen years and the article became a good article with the image two years ago. Aspects (talk) 16:40, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Redirect to delete

Hello. Could you please delete Joseph H. Fuller? His name was actually Stephen H. Fuller (son of Joseph B. Fuller). I clearly need another cup of tea!Zigzig20s (talk) 08:35, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Done. Stephen 09:00, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Dutch general election, 2017

Pls put it on Main page, the Party of current PM won the elections. 46.70.205.85 (talk) 16:05, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

André Tosel

Any idea why my ITN nomination for André Tosel has gotten zero attention whatsoever? Too Marxist?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:56, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, someone finally saw it. I guess it takes a while sometimes.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Trisha Brown

Your statement that nobody has attemtped to find a free image of Trisha Brown is incorrect. I did so myself extensively yesterday, and could nto find one. Since the image is properly rationaled, and the person is dead, your removal was out of process, so I restored it. If someone can find a free image of Brown and replace it, fine, but don't make the claim that no one tried. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:58, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

One day of looking. So you've made reasonable attempts to reach out to her publicists, or others who might have known her? Or you've just searched on the internet? It takes longer than a day. Stephen 02:19, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, a day of looking is quite reasonable. And you, an admin, are engaging in an edit war. Are you happy about that? The photo is properly labelled, properly rationaled and th e person is dead, what the fuck else do you want? Go, spend your own day or twqo or three (or whatever would satisfy you -- 90 days?) trying to find a free image of her. Note that the vast majority of the pictures on line are owned by the Trisha Brown Dance Company, and contemplate what that, exactly, means. Please cut the crap. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:57, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Cut your attitude. Have you approached the Trisha Brown Dance Company and asked if they would consider releasing an image through OTRS, or uploading it themselves with the appropriate release. Or is that all too hard for you? So much easier to just upload a copyright image on the day she died isn't it? Stephen 03:12, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

I'll cut my attitude when you stop pretending that you can read the actions of other editors that you don't know from Adam. You have nNO grounds for removing the iumage except for your own point of view about image usage, which is not inline with Foundation policy. We do NOT require that the copyright holder upload an image, American Fair Use allows us to use it, and it qualifies under NFCC and the WMF's licensing policy, so wither you don;t know what the fuck you're talking about, or you're taking these actions for another reason entirely. An admin edit-warring without policy backing -- that's really great stuff. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Have you read WP:Non-free content? "Non-free content should not be used when a freely licensed file that serves the same purpose can reasonably be expected to be uploaded, as is the case for almost all portraits of living people." These is the policy wording. So uploading an image on the day that someone dies is not acceptable if a freely licensed file that serves the same purpose can reasonably be expected to be uploaded by approaching those close to the individual after a respectful period. So, yes, I do know what the fuck I am talking about. Stephen 03:30, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Vince (rhinoceros)

I'd like to remove the PROD and suggest this go to AFD, but I'm the one who created it. Am I allowed to do it?Zigzig20s (talk) 03:05, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you can remove prod and take it to AfD. There's nothing stopping an article creator from doing this. It's a harmless article though that documents a BLP1E animal equivalent. There seems to be enough coverage that it is likely to be kept. But it's up to you. Stephen 03:48, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Can I just remove the PROD and let other people take it to AFD if they want to?Zigzig20s (talk) 03:50, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, per WP:PROD, "Any editor (including the article's creator) may object to the deletion by simply removing the tag; this action permanently cancels the proposed deletion via PROD." Stephen 03:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:53, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Westminster attack

Latest info is 4 dead including the attacker - "Those who died were a woman in her 40s, a man in his 50s, PC Keith Palmer and the attacker". This is stated in the article. Optimist on the run (talk) 09:32, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

You're right. The article still has five in the infobox, and hasn't been updated. Apologies. Stephen 09:39, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

The article clearly stated four when I made the initial edit . Optimist on the run (talk) 10:56, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes. And it had clearly changed a few minutes later . Stephen 11:18, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey I was wondering if this image was more appropriate for the situation? If not I understand but just a suggestion... EoRdE6 15:29, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks EoRdE6, but I don't think that's a particularly informative picture. If there was a reasonable, free aftermath photo that would be more suitable, but two policemen (one obscured) standing in front of some columns is not really informative. Stephen 22:50, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

AN/I

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:32, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. In this case, and confirmed with this edit , I'll assume good faith that you tried your best to locate a free image in multiple repositories. It would also be good to reach out to any close parties after a respectful time, but I wouldn't necessarily expect you specifically to do that. Stephen 02:40, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

2017 Belarusian protests

You can add an article 2017 Belarusian protests in Ongoing ? --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 17:29, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Terrorism omitted from Westminster

I've changed the article, as you suggested. Is there a waiting period for it to change on the main page? InedibleHulk (talk) 01:10, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2017).

Administrator changes

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Xnuala • CJ • Oldelpaso • Berean Hunter • Jimbo Wales • Andrew c • Karanacs • Modemac • Scott

Guideline and policy news

• Following a discussion on the backlog of unpatrolled files, consensus was found to create a new user right for autopatrolling file uploads. Implementation progress can be tracked on Phabricator.
• The BLPPROD grandfather clause, which stated that unreferenced biographies of living persons were only eligible for proposed deletion if they were created after March 18, 2010, has been removed following an RfC.
• An RfC has closed with consensus to allow proposed deletion of files. The implementation process is ongoing.
• After an unsuccessful proposal to automatically grant IP block exemption, consensus was found to relax the criteria for granting the user right from needing it to wanting it.

Technical news

• After a recent RfC, moved pages will soon be featured in a queue similar to Special:NewPagesFeed and require patrolling. Moves by administrators, page movers, and autopatrolled editors will be automatically marked as patrolled.
• Cookie blocks have been deployed. This extends the current autoblock system by setting a cookie for each block, which will then autoblock the user if they switch accounts, even under a new IP.

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Bruno Lafont

Hi. Could you please restore Bruno Lafont, which was a PROD? The deleter has not edited Misplaced Pages since last December, so hopefully you can help. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:19, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

File:A. A. Gill BBC 2012.jpg

I received a mail from photographer of this photo about using it. However, that was one month ago. Time passed, and I still haven't received another email response after asking him which license to use. Therefore, I wonder whether you can let me reuse the image (File:A. A. Gill BBC 2012.jpg) at A. A. Gill. Pinging Mifter, who deleted the image as orphaned. --George Ho (talk) 23:27, 9 April 2017 (UTC)