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:NikoSilver:

Δε θα κάνεις archive το talk page σου ποτέ; Telex 1 3 : 0 5 , 2 M a y 2 0 0 6 ( U T C )

Μπα! :NikoSilver: 1 3 : 1 8 , 2 M a y 2 0 0 6 ( U T C )

Niko, My sig...

Why haven't you placed my new sig in your sig shop main page?•Sean•gorter• 05:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, your limit suggester, Andeh, suggested you for me--•Sean•gorter• 09:18, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I already had it. Corrected for the version you actually chose. Andeh is a nice guy. When did that happen? Before or after I fixed it? •NikoSilver• 17:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Either way, the post about my CSD thing is in my second archive. Drop me a note, clear this section or whatever. Anyway, you're already in my buddy list located in my userpage! •Sean•gorter• 09:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Eχεις δικιο

""Πίστεψέ με, οι περισσότεροι πλούσιοι που ξέρω ενδιαφέρονται πολύ περισσότερο απ΄όσο νομίζεις (αλλά αυτό είναι εκτός θέματος -μην το πάμε ταξικά). Εν πάσει περιπτώσει, να το διαγράψουμε δεν μπορούμε, άρα, "if you can't beat them, join them.""

Εχεις δικιο φιλε, αλλα αυτο το αρθρο δεν επρεπε ποτε να ειχε ξεκινησει, αλλα τετοια λαθη γινονται, τι να κανουμε! Ζητω συγνωμη αν σε προσβαλα με τον χαρακτηρισμο "κολωνακιωτες" ο οποιος εκ των υστερων ειναι λανθανσμενος. Απλα ηταν η πρωτη λεξη που μου ηρθε στο μυαλο για να χαρακτηρησω τους τοσους αδιαφορους. Θελει πολυ εντιτ αυτο το αρθρο για να μην προσβαλει κανεναν. Εμενα με εξοργισε και θα κανω οτι μπορω ωστε αν δεν γινεται να διαγραφει, τοτε να μετριαστει το υφος του :) --KaragouniS 16.57 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Aaax Niko

Ti provlima exeis me ti selida mou? Ti tha pei kalh arxh? Akoma exw fasistika arthra sth selida mou kai tha synexisw na exw. Apla xefortothika merika pou htan peritta. Koita ti tha kanoume me to Pontian Genocide lew egw. Mitsos 11:27, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Embarrased????? Disgrace???? Have you ever seen User:Project2501a userpage??? For that you should be embarrased! Sto lew kai sto talk tou Pontian Genocide. Mitsos 11:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Pontian Genocide

Γεια, I've began a totally informal dispute resolution attempt. Please support it. --Michalis Famelis (talk) 14:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Michali. I will.•NikoSilver• 14:34, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment

I am sorry that you deemed what I have wrote as macho threats, if I did so, I apologize... I am definitely not a nationalist (you don't have to believe me if you don't want to).. But I find it extremely hard to not get angry when I see such users vandalizing wikipedia.. Mitsos has again vandalized the page by removing the tags, after repeated warnings not to do so.. If you can have a look at the talk page, you can see that I am seriously trying to contribute to the discussion, but it is way too hard... Regards... Baristarim 20:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Sad.. what he thought was vandalism?? That's way too much political correctness.. And turkish wiki friends don't cut it.. That's a typical excuse all nationalists give (Turk, Greek or whatever) I'm not a nationalist!! I have so many x friends!!

As for the reasons, they have been stated many times.. They were in the archive, I pasted it again, feel free to have a look.. What I just pasted to the talk page is a typical legal preliminary statement.. Its quality is, whether you believe it or not, is very high - that's contribution, and not just managing or trying.. I am not the only one who is unhappy with the title, many non-Greek and non-Turks are as well, again have a look at the archive.. FYI, i am an intl lawyer, you would have a hard time trying to pass your views through me so easily, just letting you know.. I am not going to lay down and let people settle 'old scores'.. It is a pity coz there are so many other articles where I could be making a positive contribution, but I find myself having to spend my time engaging in a weird argument.. As for mitsos comments, I am not backing out of what I said, I just thought that they don't belong in Misplaced Pages.. On the other hand, I have respect for mitsos for being honest about himself, I wish everyone else was, you know what I mean??

And the article is definitely disputed.. Common sense.. cheers!Baristarim 20:53, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Just step back and listen how you talk vs how others talk to you. Including me. Please avoid further contact. I am an international firearm/drug/white flesh smuggler, so beware! BOO! •NikoSilver• 21:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, as you wish.. I definitely didn't imply that you were a smuggler or anything.. What have I said or implied to make you think this? I am sorry if I offended you in any way, because that's not what I meant.. On the other hand, I considered your post on my page to be a bit aggresive as well considering that in my first post to your page I apologized if I had made remarks that offended someone (above).. You are not being fair, pls see my talk page and my first post to u above, I have engaged in arguments, true, but please try to see the overall picture... I have joined a couple of weeks ago, and have been trying to honestly contribute to Misplaced Pages, but you will have to excuse me if I cannot keep my calm while talking to someone like mitsos.. Funny thing is, only time I have been accused as such in my life is here.. Baristarim 22:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

You know, don't misunderstand me but, I would like to raise a point with you, you don't have to answer or anything.. I had read the whole issue about mitsos.. This was one thing that made me think that u were being a nationalist.. When you had seen his user page, your response to him was you are (this is) giving all the greek users a bad name, instead of saying your views are out of step with the modern society, period... Why? Just because I saw someone like mitsos, it definitely didn't make me think that greeks were white-supremacists or anything.. Nor have I ever thought as such.. I have always believed that Turks and Greeks get too defensive, sometimes while being aware of it, just because of mutual distrust and fear of hidden agendas... Anyways, what can I say? Have a good day could be a start...lol Baristarim 22:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Aspasia

Please kindly check Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Aspasia.--Yannismarou 10:08, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Des ki esy kati

... Sto House of Commons kapoios Bretanos vouleutis, Stephen Pound, ethese zitima pontiakis genoktonias, mazi me tis alles duo . den xerw an afto mporei na xrisimopoihthei edw... Other victim groups of genocide and persecution in the Ottoman empire from 1914-1922, for instance the Greek and Assyrian minorities, from the Danish Institute for International Studies in cooperation with University of Southern Denmark . Apo to USA Congress the millions of Orthodox Christians who perished in the genocidal campaign in Asia Minor from 1894 to 1923. eperwtisi tou Stafilidi, ellinikis katagwgis vouleuti sto Parliament of Sweden . kapou eida oti to House of Representatives tis Kyprou, to Columbia DC kai City of Cleveland tin exoun anagnwrisei episis... Hectorian 12:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Kala einai topa

Ti kanis! eimai poli arrousti! alla topa einai to spiti pali.

The pic

Check your mail.   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually it was more of a technical question :) When I tried to upload it, it came out with an error message. See my contribs here.   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Thats only for the people that died more than 75 years ago?   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, will get to it.   /FunkyFly.talk_  00:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Macedonia map

I find it tendentious because it harps on the claims of a handful of irredentists. In the template, this is accompanied by a repetition, and so emphasis, of material already in the text of both articles. On the Main Page, it would bring undue emphasis to a deservedly obscure definition of Macedonia. (Your very nice fourfold map, with the caption "if it weren't confusing..." would be much better there.) Septentrionalis 22:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

In the neighboring section of each article; we have those definitions already.

I've tried to add the maps to the sample page; but I've had trouble shrinking them to fit. If you can do that, we can interest the reader more, by showing that Macedonia has moved all over the place. (The details may be less visible, but the point will carry. Septentrionalis 22:43, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

No edit conflict; and I'm sorry to hear that: My chief objection is that I don't like how it looks; although I really do find the caption unnecessary. Differences in national taste, I suppose. Septentrionalis 22:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Biko gia, Ean sou dothei i efkeria des Cyprus Refugees kai afto Talk:Cyprus Refugees. S'efxaristo Aristovoul0s 22:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

New Section

Espase to 3RR ekeinos stin genoktonia ton pontion. Miskin 23:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Test

The definition of Macedonia is a great source of confusion due to the overlapping use of the term to describe geographical, political and historical areas, languages and peoples. Ethnic groups inhabiting the area use different terminology for the same entity, or the same terminology for different entities, which is often confusing to other inhabitants of the region and foreigners alike.

Historically, the region has presented markedly shifting borders across the Balkan peninsula. Geographically, no single definition of its borders or the names of its subdivisions is accepted by all scholars and ethnic groups. Demographically, it is mainly inhabited by four ethnic groups, three of which self-identify as Macedonians: One Slavic group does so at a national level, while another, Bulgarians, as well as a Greek one do so at a regional level. Linguistically, the names and origins of the languages and dialects spoken in the region are a source of controversy. Politically, the use of the name Macedonia has led to a diplomatic dispute between Greece and the Republic of Macedonia. Despite intervention from the United Nations, the dispute is still pending full resolution.

Regardless of the borderless, historic nature of the region, Macedonia can be safely considered as lying in the heart of the Balkan peninsula. Therefore, the reason for this polyonymy, heteronymy and confusion can be summarised in Winston Churchill's words: "The Balkan region has a tendency to produce more history than it can consume." (More...)

Perfect - FrancisTyers · 10:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I uploaded a new version for the history pic in my talk (hit ctrl-F5). : (a) Zoomed-in maps, (b) Added quote, per Sept. instructions. Guys, I try to cooperate as much as I can, but I really find this picture dull, and confusing in this size (which btw is already a little larger than usual tfa's). Sorry, I still prefer the geo version, and I am willing to discuss further to improve it, if that is possible... Please continue this talk at User talk:Pmanderson#Hi Sept...•NikoSilver• 12:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Useless comment

Well, if it were a Turkish nationalist making death threats then it would be all over Wiki, but when it is a Greek nationalist we try to hush it over .. Secondly; you deleted another post of mine which was relevant to the debate . Lastly, it is relevant because if I see first mitsos then this in a space of a couple of days, I have a legitimate right to wonder what the hell is going on around here... Baristarim 01:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I still think that you are only interested in Greece and Greeks looking better (remember what I told u about mitsos above?).. Great.. Misplaced Pages the sequel: the gang wars.. Baristarim 01:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for deleting the relative comment. That is precisely the reason we shouldn't let relative comments be lost in a sea of unrelative ones. This issue has already been all over WP. See WP:ANI. This article talk is between 5 or 10 users. WP:ANI is for everybody. Please refrain from bringing unnecessary tension in the talk. It will help us keep track of the debate and reach a better level of communication.•NikoSilver• 10:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Mou pire ligo xrono gia na katalavw ti ennoeis...:p. den xerw an pote tha xrisimopoihsw auto to koumpi omws... An variesai akoma, rikse mia matia se afto to arthro Cretan Moslems... Hectorian 11:03, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Just wanted to drop bye and say hello! I rarelly meet you on Misplaced Pages! :) Was wondering if yah need help with anythin'? The elections weren't as all of us participated/had hoped for - but they brought stability and Montenegro is on its way to join the European Union. --HolyRomanEmperor 18:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The only remaining things are the Constitutions of Serbia and Montenegro (each). Constitutionally, Serbia and Montenegro are still parts of Yugoslavia; which actually made the 2000 Compromise and the 2003 transition to a loosse State Union unconstitutional (and thus the 2006 Montenegrin independence referendum), as well as the 1999> UN protectorate of Kosovo. :D The Constitutions still obliege the two states to be the guard of the Serb people in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia (remember the war-time?) --HolyRomanEmperor 18:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi HRE. Jesus! Some complicated shit you got over there! I had no idea, but to my knowledge, all constitutions have a clause in their preample, which reads smthng like: "The ultimate governing force of the country is its people. The constitution aims to protect the people, and the people are responsible for the content of the constitution." At least the Greek one has a relative clause (maybe I'm not reproducing it well, but that's the meaning). So, in that case, I guess the people has taken (or can take) the situation in their hands...•NikoSilver• 21:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

E psit, euxaristo gia to stirigma sto arthro alla ap'oti blepo tora kai sto paroligon block! ;) Telospanton ekana apo noris tis praktikes mou kai egine mpaxalo, des ton pinaka anakoinoseon ton antministratoron na gelaseis! Miskin 02:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Re block

Hi Niko and thanks for the note. If you know the users quite well and you see that unblocking them would help the discussion than i'll surely reconsider my block. -- Szvest 00:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC) User:FayssalF/Sign

Done anyway! Happy editing. -- Szvest 00:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Ohh sure. The block should never be intended to silence people anyway. It was a matter of applying a policy to sort stuff out. Cheers. -- Szvest 00:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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Cunning disguise

What do you think? - FrancisTyers · 11:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

See anal virgin! •NikoSilver• 11:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Votestacking: if you vote for me, I can promise you that I will cease your virginity. I can assure you it's better the other way. Duja 11:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)