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Please avoid unusual formatting. This is both my user page and my talk page. To find out more about me and what I do, click on the icons in the amazingly cool navigation bar above. Click here to leave a new message. Disclosure of political bias: I took the political compass questionnaire on 15 July 2006 and the result was economic left/right: minus 8.13, social libertarian/authoritarian: minus 8.26 Please contact me by email if you are blocked from editing: minorityreport@bluebottle.com

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Hiya!

Hey, I just noticed your name on a tweak of that PZ Myers page. So this is where you've gotten to, deep in the bowels of Misplaced Pages.

Like a tapeworm. :) --Tony Sidaway 19:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Ready to be archived. --Tony Sidaway 03:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Email

FYI I've sent you an email. JoshuaZ 23:33, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Well obviously you're saying that some unidentified people are upset that I don't do something they want me to do and, moreover, they wouldn't be nearly as upset as they are if I did whatever it is you say they want me to do. Well I have to reply that I in my turn could possibly be persuaded to be slightly, but not very much, upset that they (whoever they are) might think that, and it's conceivable that I might be convinced to feel a little bit happier if they didn't do whatever it is that they do, provided you could convince me that they're doing it and they, whoever they are, are harming Misplaced Pages by whatever it is whoever they are are supposedly doing. But it's okay for them to do what they do. Which they don't say, whoever they are. By the way, who are they? And why should I care? --Tony Sidaway

Re

Speedy deletions are ordinarily performed on pages which meet some CSD. Misplaced Pages:Process is Important does not meet any CSD; hence, its speedy deletion did not conform to the ordinary deletion process, which would have been an MFD nomination. Perhaps this situation demonstrates that process is important :) John254 02:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm surprised that you would draw such a conclusion from the sequence of events. --Tony Sidaway 03:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Looking for an admin

We are looking for an admin here:]. Having already dealt with this user in the past, maybe you could oblige. I apologise in advance for the ridiculously long discussion... Thanks, Yandman 09:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

Why did you block me from the West Bank page. I had helped create it, and I frequently contribute valuable information to the page.David Betesh

You're not blocked and your username has never been blocked, but you could still see a block message with my name if for some reason you use the same ISP as someone who has been blocked and there is a shared proxy that both you and the other user use. Please email me if this recurs, giving a full copy of the block message, and I'll fix it. --Tony Sidaway 17:36, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hagiographer and Squeakbox

Based on Mackensen's comments at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Hagiographer, do you think there is enough evidence to support blocking Hagiographer for violating the personal attack parole that was extended to him at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/SqueakBox and Zapatancas#Log of blocks and bans? (Also note that 2 weeks ago, Hagiographer prodded the same article, but he got away with it because I was the only one watching WP:AE at the time. (See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement/Archive2#User:Hagiographer and the Squeakbox section below it.) Thanks.

Never mind. Jayjg found that Hagiographer was someone's sock and indef blocked it. Thatcher131 19:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the laugh

I enjoyed this greatly: . -- SCZenz 23:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Please

Please stop your serbs in your project--Hipi Zhdripi 06:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

hey tony

Saw you had some references to some permissions areticles on meta. I'm trying to protect pages and allow access to them to a new group but I don't seem to be making it work. I've followed the instructions at http://meta.wikimedia.org/Talk:Protect and everything as far as that seems to be i order. i used the group 'bank' and have added the following to my LocalSettings

$wgGroupPermissions            = true;
$wgGroupPermissions            = true;
$wgGroupPermissions            = true;
$wgGroupPermissions      = true;
$wgGroupPermissions      = true;
$wgGroupPermissions          = true;
$wgGroupPermissions        = true;
$wgGroupPermissions = true;
$wgGroupPermissions       = true;
$wgRestrictionLevels = 'bank';
$wgGroupPermissions         = true;
$wgGroupPermissions   = true;

but members of the'bank' group don't seem to be able to edit the page when it is protected and delegated to the 'bank' group please send me an e-mail at mrgenixus@gmail.com if you can help me. \ Thanks, Ben West

An appeal

At the heart of the current crisis is disunity. Misplaced Pages is one community but editors have begun to treat it as a battleground where they fight for their own interests, forgetting that it's only a means for producing a high quality 💕. Attacking the ultimate mechanism of dispute resolution, the Arbitration Committee, weakens us all. I appeal to all editors to stop warring. --Tony Sidaway 15:25, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration case

An arbitration case has been submitted to review the actions surround the recent Giano case on AN. I've listed you as an involved party, and you may wish to view the case here. --InkSplotch 18:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Tony Sidaway 20:55, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Irishpunktom: Article ban lifted from Peter Tatchell for Dbiv and replaced with probation

In Irishpunktom case a motion passed and is published at the above link.

The article ban (remedy 1) for Dbiv (talk · contribs) and Irishpunktom (talk · contribs) from Peter Tatchell is lifted, and replaced with Probation for Dbiv also. Any administrator, in the exercise of their judgement for reasonable cause, may ban Dbiv from any page which he disrupts by inappropriate editing. He must be notified on his talk page of any bans, and a note must also placed on WP:AN/I. Violations of these bans or paroles imposed shall be enforced by appropriate blocks, up to a month in the event of repeat violations. All bans are to be logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Irishpunktom#Log of blocks and bans.

For the Arbitration Committee FloNight 22:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Neat stuff. Congratulations, David. Thanks Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway

Deleted sources for Alberto Fujimori

I am breaking my wikivacations because I notice something creepy: It is now possible to remove paragraphs with sources because someone "does not like" what it is stated? Messhermit 13:49, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely frowned upon, and can be disruptive if done without consensus. --Tony Sidaway 20:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I took a quick look. Looks like a good faith attempt to "be bold". The edit summary indicated an opinion that the deleted text was unremarkable because the reported phenomenon occurred in a number of other countries as well. Certainly an argument for deletion that is open for debate. Just because a statement is sourced doesn't mean it is encyclopedic. In any event, the edit in question has been reverted. If the editor tries to revert the revert, it will be time to suggest a discussion on the Talk Page. --Richard 22:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

help needed on Bloed, Bodem, Eer en Trouw

Hi. I have a problem at Bloed, Bodem, Eer en Trouw. There is a piece of text included in that article which is based on a French news article. Now the original text on which this French news article is based, is available as primary source at Google Cache, in English. Now the English version makes the inclusion of the piece of text in the article irrelevant, because there is a mistranslation of the primary source in the French article. But somehow other editors insist on using the (incorrect) French news article. Could you help please? I've tried to talk it out on the talk page, to no avail. I've asked for full page protection at WP:RPP, because other editors don't like to use the talk page it seems. Intangible 20:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Giano

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Giano. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Giano/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Giano/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, MacGyverMagic - Mgm| 22:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Refactoring my signature

Tony,
Leaving everything else aside, forgetting for the moment that I've asked you several times not to, ignoring the meaningless User:Tony Sidaway/No refactor, refactoring my signature on my talk page is well and truly outside the bounds of what's reasonable. --Aaron Brenneman 07:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll pander to your concerns for now, but you may note that the discussion page is quickly filling up with clutter. Perhaps you would be kind enough to clear it up yourself. --Tony Sidaway 09:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you resign from clerking? Scobell302 08:45, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I was asked to resign by the Arbitration Committee. See my statement in evidence in Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Giano/Evidence#Statement, in which you will see that I opined that it probably isn't a good idea to appoint a controversial sysop as a clerk. The Committee agrees with me. --Tony Sidaway 09:21, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Bummer, man. I feel the "controversy" surround you is a direct consequence of your openness, honesty, humility and willingness to put the interests of Misplaced Pages ahead of all else -- dam the consequences. Please consider running for the arbcom again next election.

Applause for a well written resignation statement. For what it's worth, you did a good job as clerk - reading the cool, dispassionate clerk statements and comparing to ... well, a few of your other actions :-) ... I found it hard to believe they were done by the same person. I hope that's something your successors strive to imitate. Is there a barnstar for that sort of thing? AnonEMouse 13:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

To add to the "for what it's worth" category, I first encountered Tony in his role as the ArbCom clerk. I found him to be very professional and knowledgeable in his role of the clerk and was quite surprised to learn a few weeks later about some of his other history with the project. His contributions to ArbCom's functioning will surely be missed. Newyorkbrad 14:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Fucking hilarious

you rock!

I like it, too, but it is not my work. A troll gave this as a gift after I deleted his joke audio versions of real articles. --Tony Sidaway 16:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

It's time to ban GreekWarrior...for good

In his short return today, GreekWarrior (talk · contribs) (remember him?) has made the following contributions:

• You skopjeans just don't get it, we could take your 2 bit country in 2 days if we wanted to, we wouldn't even need more than 1 division and about 5 F-16's.

• Well done my fellow Greeks, we have defeated Roydosan and now he runs like cattle. HEIL!

• I have created a Greek Art page, much to Adam Carr's disgust, which includes stubs of Ancient/Byzantine/Modern Greek Art.
  Help would be greatly appreciated. HEIL!

• KEEP YOUR ANTI-GREEK SHIT TO YOURSELF! GREEKWARRIOR IS BACK! EVEN THOUGH I HAVE BEEN EDITING BEFORE THAT EVEN!

• Turkic barbarians run for the hills! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

I think a ban is long overdue... —Khoikhoi 02:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I've made a comment about this recommending a community ban. Enough is enough. --Tony Sidaway 16:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree. BTW, now he's editing as 86.140.42.67 (talk · contribs) —Khoikhoi 04:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

let's stick to facts

Tony, I don't think you make false statements on purpose, but you do make them and I request that you study the issue. You accused me of all sins in the front matter modification issue and have just posted another false claim at the Workshop. May I ask you to study the history and see that, contrary to your accusation of me Wikilawyering, fillibustering and whatnots, it was me, who merged your idea to the Front Matter as I explained multiple times. It would be better if you modify the erroneous statements than me having to rebutt the same stuff posted multiple times to multiple places. Thank you. --Irpen 21:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

P.S. My older account of these events is here. I was somewhat passionate, still not incicivil, at the time, for which I apologize, but facts remain facts. --Irpen 21:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)