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Complaint

This article is full of blatant PR. 174.56.139.110 (talk) 15:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

FYI:

Looking for folks to contribute to the Realtor.com page Rbucich (talk) 00:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Updated corporate HQ city effective 3/14/16 Rbucich (talk) 12:30, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

References

1. http://marketing.move.com/contact-us/

Edit request to expand and update article

On behalf of Move, I am proposing expanded and updated Move (company) and Realtor.com articles as part of my work at Beutler Ink. Given my conflict of interest, I will not edit either article directly and ask independent editors to review them for accuracy, neutrality, and verifiability. During this project, Move has provided feedback to ensure accuracy. I've saved my Move draft here (and, if you're curious, my Realtor.com draft here).

I'll briefly identify some problems with the current Move article:

• Most importantly, quite a few of the sources are inappropriate for Misplaced Pages, such as press releases, company websites, and non-reliable publications
• Almost all of the content is presented in bulleted lists, which goes against Misplaced Pages's Manual of Style, and should be converted into prose.
• The current "Criticism and controversy" section is partly unsourced and its contents should probably be integrated with the company's history.
• I've also formatted the infobox and inline citations correctly, and worked hard to present a neutral company overview and history.

I'm comfortable splitting this edit request into multiple requests, if preferred, and I am happy to address any questions or concerns that may arise during the review process. Thanks in advance for your consideration and help. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:39, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

I've suggested some tweaks at User talk:Inkian Jason/Move (company), though there's no reason they could not be applied after the fact. Overall, the draft seems like an improvement, aside from what I flagged, though I have to reviewed every single word of it and its sourcing. And of course the logo should be retained.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ<  12:20, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

@SMcCandlish: Thank you for taking time to review the proposed draft. I've made some changes to the draft based on your feedback. Do you have any other concerns, or are you willing to copy over the markup appropriately? Thanks again. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

That was just a quick copy-editing skim. Someone who deals more with COI/PROMO potential should probably examine this in more detail, though so far this looks to me like a good example of what very careful paid editing can do.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ<  16:27, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

@SMcCandlish: Thanks, do you know any other editors who might be interested in this topic and could offer input and help? I've posted to several WikiProjects about this draft and the Realtor.com draft. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:35, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

No idea right off-hand; it's not something I deal with. I think there are people who periodically look for {{Edit request}} and respond to it.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ<  16:38, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

"Overview"

It is requested that edits be made to the following semi-protected articles: D (edit · history · last · links · protection log) S (edit · history · last · links · protection log) This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

Since I'm struggling to find volunteers to review the draft in its entirety, I am splitting the request into multiple parts. For now, I am seeking an editor to review just the "Overview" section seen here: User:Inkian_Jason/Move (company)#Overview. This section is just 3 short paragraphs long, so I'm hoping this is a much easier request for someone to review and copy over appropriately. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 22:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

• The information provided under reference #5 is not substantiated by the source ("Move's portfolio of software businesses includes FiveStreet, ListHub, Market Snapshot, Reesio, and Top Producer, as of December 2016.").
• The source given for the information under reference #1 does not give a page number ("The company also operates Doorsteps.com (following its acquisition in 2013), MortgageMatch.com, Moving.com, Relocation.com, and SeniorHousingnet.com").
• "Among other properties" is too nebulous a claim statement to be adequately substantiated by the given sources.
• Under leadership, these people are already listed in the infobox. While that infobox is inordinately long, having the names listed there is preferable and more concise than listing them in the text. Clarified: Text may be added to the infobox as an "at-a-glance" as well as in the main text. Please feel free to add them to both locations.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  12:50, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing this request. I've replaced the inline citation and removed "as of December 2016", in order to make the article move evergreen. Reference #1 does not include a single page number because the internet properties are mentioned on different page numbers. I assumed "among other properties" was preferred over listing every single internet property, but you're welcome to suggest an alternative phrase. Please keep in mind, some of the properties mentioned in the "Overview" are further detailed in the overall draft — this section is intended to serve as a snapshot of the company's portfolio. Additionally, "Overview" sections often include mention of key personnel, even when names are included in the infobox. Shouldn't the infobox include details confirmed by the article's prose? I've re-opened this edit request for further consideration and feedback, thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

 Declined You're correct about the infobox. You can place the information there and in the main text if you like. If I understand you correctly, you're not comfortable providing the page numbers from a 96 page document because locating that information is my responsibility. Is this correct? Please advise.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  19:50, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

History, part 1 ("Homestore")

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Further to the above request, I propose replacing the current article's "Products and services", "History", and "Criticism and controversy" sections with the proposed "History" section seen here, which seeks to fold these three sections (each of which include unsourced and inappropriately sourced content) into a more accurate and chronological company history. Not to mention, the article currently presents information in the form of a bulleted list, which should be converted into prose.

For this request, I'd like to focus on the "Homestore" subsection specifically, so I'm not asking a volunteer to review too much content at once. Thank you. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

 Reviewing request. Multiple requests on one page (3-in-1) per:WP:EDITREQ I have extra time now, so I can review this request.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  19:50, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

History, part 2 ("Move, Inc.")

It is requested that an edit be made to the semi-protected article at D. (edit · history · last · links · protection log) This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

Related to the above request, I propose replacing the current article's "Products and services", "History", and "Criticism and controversy" sections with the proposed "History" section seen here, which seeks to fold these three sections (each of which include unsourced and inappropriately sourced content) into a more accurate and chronological company history. Not to mention, the article currently presents information in the form of a bulleted list, which should be converted into prose.

For this request, I'd like to focus on the "Move, Inc." subsection specifically, so I'm not asking a volunteer to review too much content at once. Thank you. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Changed result from declined to review in progress. I have extra time now, I can begin a re-review of the material. (Re-review is completed for this section. Please see below for results.)  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  19:50, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

References

1. "Realtor.com's new features bring augmented reality, image recognition to home-buying". GeekWire. 17 January 2017.
2. Steel, Michael J. de la Merced and Emily. "News Corp. to Buy Move, a Real Estate Listings Site". DealBook. The New York Times.
3. Wauters, Robin. "Move Acquires Online Real Estate Listing Syndicator ListHub For $13 Million". TechCrunch. {{cite web}}: no-break space character in |title= at position 68 (help)
4. "Move bolsters leadership team with 3 new hires and 1 promotion". Inman.

 Declined This proposal contains several instances of insufficiently paraphrased material, shown above. As I've mention before, this material must be written in your own words, using your own phrasing. Kindly resubmit your edit request after these changes have been incorporated into your proposal.  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  20:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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